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 gambler  Kent 04 Feb 15 6.00am |
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Well done. About time the world followed your lead. Stop pussy footing around and execute the whole lot of them.
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redandblue4life  Auckland city ! 04 Feb 15 7.01am |
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Agreed !!
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Feb 15 9.23am |
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Yes, because the best solution is to reduce yourself to the same level as the enemy and validate their hateful position, and dispose of due purpose etc. ISIS doesn't care about its prisoners, they're effectively determined as casualties, written off and lost (the fact that most of these captive relate to a much earlier incarnation of ISIS is another problem). Once you get down to a good guys / bad guys black and white kind of view of morality and ethics, then your effectively posturing in the same stance as your enemy - Anything is justified because they did it first (which is exactly the kind of mentality groups like IS utilize in the first place - That we started it, so its all just). By all means strike at the guilty, arrest and round people up, but when you've effectively resorted to murder as a means of politics you're not really all that much different.
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| gbox82 Meols, Wirral 04 Feb 15 9.30am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Feb 2015 9.23am
Yes, because the best solution is to reduce yourself to the same level as the enemy and validate their hateful position, and dispose of due purpose etc. ISIS doesn't care about its prisoners, they're effectively determined as casualties, written off and lost (the fact that most of these captive relate to a much earlier incarnation of ISIS is another problem). Once you get down to a good guys / bad guys black and white kind of view of morality and ethics, then your effectively posturing in the same stance as your enemy - Anything is justified because they did it first (which is exactly the kind of mentality groups like IS utilize in the first place - That we started it, so its all just). By all means strike at the guilty, arrest and round people up, but when you've effectively resorted to murder as a means of politics you're not really all that much different. Hear hear!
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aquickgame2  Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 04 Feb 15 10.38am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Feb 2015 9.23am
Yes, because the best solution is to reduce yourself to the same level as the enemy and validate their hateful position, and dispose of due purpose etc. ISIS doesn't care about its prisoners, they're effectively determined as casualties, written off and lost (the fact that most of these captive relate to a much earlier incarnation of ISIS is another problem). Once you get down to a good guys / bad guys black and white kind of view of morality and ethics, then your effectively posturing in the same stance as your enemy - Anything is justified because they did it first (which is exactly the kind of mentality groups like IS utilize in the first place - That we started it, so its all just). By all means strike at the guilty, arrest and round people up, but when you've effectively resorted to murder as a means of politics you're not really all that much different. The Jordanian people wanted revenge,they were on the streets in Amman,the King had to decide whether to pacify his people and give them what they want or have a large internal battle on his hands. Rightly or wrongly he decided on the people wishes.
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| Hoof Hearted 04 Feb 15 10.50am | |
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This is similar to the Churchill was a prick thread. Jordan have been pragmatic and dealt with the situation much like Winston would have done. It's all very well playing to the Marquis of Queensberry rules, but ISIS etc are not, so instead of tying one hand behind your back, engage these barstewards without any reservations and blow them away. We'll never rid ourselves of this scum if we adopt principles like "Don't lower yourselves to their standards!". Meet them with full force and gloves off, and hit below the belt if necessary.
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| Palace BANANA Ringmer, Lewes, East Sussex 04 Feb 15 10.54am |
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So JM721 what would be your solution to the IS/terrorist problem?.. how would you deal with this world threat?.. Remember the two terrorists that the Jordanian government hung had tried to kill Jordanians, one was a failed suicide bomber that IS had requested as an exchange for the pilot IS burned alive in a cage... maybe retaliation with force and no quarter is the only solution or IS will be allowed to take control of, and continue to terrorise, the rest of the world... what would you suggest that the governments of the world should do to counter act these acts of a barbaric, inhuman and unforgiveable nature?..
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 04 Feb 15 11.34am |
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I have said before, since Vietnam war is conducted as much in the media as it is on the battlefield. The "bad guys" revel in negative coverage and use it to their advantage whilst the good guys have to be extremely careful. However, people need to realise that the decision to go to war must not be taken lightly. Once it is, whilst being mindful of collateral damage it should be conducted with the utmost violence and not namby pambying
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Feb 15 11.46am |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Feb 2015 9.23am
Yes, because the best solution is to reduce yourself to the same level as the enemy and validate their hateful position, and dispose of due purpose etc. ISIS doesn't care about its prisoners, they're effectively determined as casualties, written off and lost (the fact that most of these captive relate to a much earlier incarnation of ISIS is another problem). Once you get down to a good guys / bad guys black and white kind of view of morality and ethics, then your effectively posturing in the same stance as your enemy - Anything is justified because they did it first (which is exactly the kind of mentality groups like IS utilize in the first place - That we started it, so its all just). By all means strike at the guilty, arrest and round people up, but when you've effectively resorted to murder as a means of politics you're not really all that much different.
Pay a thief to catch a thief is the only answer, and until someone has the balls to send a force into ISIS held strongholds with a "no stone unturned" attitude, with zero culpability for their actions, they will continue to stick two fingers up at the "infidels", and behead innocent westerners, as they know only to well there is f*** all we can do about it, with the current law of armed conflict as is.
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| Harpo Oxfordshire 04 Feb 15 11.51am |
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IS, ISIS or whatever they may morph into in the future are nothing more than hobby butchers of humanity. They are a cancer in the global community. Cut the cancer out and incinerate. It's the only option. But we also have the problem of their financiers as well, and resolving that isn't going to be very tidy either. Sadly, I can see the development and use of smart chemical weapons as a desirable option for the US to curtail the threat, whether or not it is considered acceptable within UN conventions.
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Kermit8  Hevon 04 Feb 15 11.53am |
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Mexican drugs gangs do the same and lots more. This type of cvntishness is not limited to fanatical 'muslims'
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| Andy_G Wimbledon 04 Feb 15 12.18pm |
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It certainly made everyone stand up and take notice. No one has really ever met IS with such a swift and dramatic fight fire with fire solution. Bombing runs are all very well but executing people gets right to the heart of it so may be IS will think twice. I doubt it will but fair play to Jordan.
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