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Part Time James 14 May 15 2.07pm
Quote martinb75 at 14 May 2015 2.00pm They will soon have death squads on the street to hunt down the unemployed. Just to keep the numbers down. Finally! Someone chucking ideas into the hat instead of just moaning. I salute you.
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Quote martinb75 at 14 May 2015 2.00pm

They will soon have death squads on the street to hunt down the unemployed. Just to keep the numbers down.

Finally! Someone chucking ideas into the hat instead of just moaning. I salute you.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 May 15 4.16pm
[Link] This is appalling.
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This is appalling.

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Part Time James 14 May 15 4.29pm
Quote nickgusset at 14 May 2015 4.16pm [Link] This is appalling. Agreed. A simple web design course would've made it look a whole lot better.
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This is appalling.

Agreed. A simple web design course would've made it look a whole lot better.

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rob1969 Banstead Surrey 14 May 15 4.33pm
According to article in the Times today of the 500K+ jobs created recently well over 50% were taken by immigrant workers - mainly from Rumania and Bulgaria. Seems UK is doing a better job for their unemployed than our own!
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rob1969

Banstead Surrey 14 May 15 4.33pm

According to article in the Times today of the 500K+ jobs created recently well over 50% were taken by immigrant workers - mainly from Rumania and Bulgaria.
Seems UK is doing a better job for their unemployed than our own!

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johnfirewall 15 May 15 12.43am
Quote nickgusset at 14 May 2015 4.16pm [Link] This is appalling. I don't deny these are pointless tasks carried out on unreasonable terms but I've never encountered this and I doubt you have so I wonder how many are forced into such things. Note that as acknowledged by the writer they don't actually work in the supermarkets as was originally proposed as part of the workfare scheme. Perhaps some are engaged in worse, community service type jobs, in which case it's appalling they've not got a paid job yet. I'd do absolutely anything. We've heard the stories about people being being denied benefit payments while on unpaid placements of their choice. Then there's the suggestion migrants take the jobs of Brits and unpaid or forced work like this takes jobs from everyone else but either way unemployment is down, even if that simply means people aren't claiming benefits and somehow not starving to death. This overall would point to people actually having jobs but it's important to remember, when referencing such sob stories that it's not the people who've been so peed off having to do made-up jobs that they've even quit the dole who are visiting food banks.
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15 May 15 12.43am

Quote nickgusset at 14 May 2015 4.16pm

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This is appalling.

I don't deny these are pointless tasks carried out on unreasonable terms but I've never encountered this and I doubt you have so I wonder how many are forced into such things.

Note that as acknowledged by the writer they don't actually work in the supermarkets as was originally proposed as part of the workfare scheme. Perhaps some are engaged in worse, community service type jobs, in which case it's appalling they've not got a paid job yet. I'd do absolutely anything.

We've heard the stories about people being being denied benefit payments while on unpaid placements of their choice. Then there's the suggestion migrants take the jobs of Brits and unpaid or forced work like this takes jobs from everyone else but either way unemployment is down, even if that simply means people aren't claiming benefits and somehow not starving to death. This overall would point to people actually having jobs but it's important to remember, when referencing such sob stories that it's not the people who've been so peed off having to do made-up jobs that they've even quit the dole who are visiting food banks.

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legaleagle 15 May 15 1.43am
Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm According to article in the Times today of the 500K+ jobs created recently well over 50% were taken by immigrant workers - mainly from Rumania and Bulgaria. Seems UK is doing a better job for their unemployed than our own! Interesting hypothesis by the Murdoch press,given that as of late 2014, the total number of Romanians and Bulgarians living in the UK including students and dependants (let alone those who might have recently taken a "newly created" job) was estimated to be below 40% of 500,000 (let alone 500,000 plus). But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take. Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am)
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Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm

Interesting hypothesis by the Murdoch press,given that as of late 2014, the total number of Romanians and Bulgarians living in the UK including students and dependants (let alone those who might have recently taken a "newly created" job) was estimated to be below 40% of 500,000 (let alone 500,000 plus).

But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take.

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am)

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matt_himself Matataland 15 May 15 5.13am
Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm According to article in the Times today of the 500K+ jobs created recently well over 50% were taken by immigrant workers - mainly from Rumania and Bulgaria. Seems UK is doing a better job for their unemployed than our own! Interesting hypothesis by the Murdoch press,given that as of late 2014, the total number of Romanians and Bulgarians living in the UK including students and dependants (let alone those who might have recently taken a "newly created" job) was estimated to be below 40% of 500,000 (let alone 500,000 plus). But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take. Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am) Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left. Doesn't it sit at odds with your beliefs that all mass immigration is doing is creating an underclass? This underclass doesn't speak English, doesn't live where you live, doesn't socialise where you socialise and gets paid an awful lot less than you? I am sure that anecdotes about being friends with Bulgarian bus drivers and Romanian baristas will pour in but the fact is that mass immigration is creating such a difference in living standards doesn't sit comfortably with me and I am not a mung bean eating leftie, It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 15 May 15 5.13am

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am

Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm

But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take.

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am)

Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left.

Doesn't it sit at odds with your beliefs that all mass immigration is doing is creating an underclass? This underclass doesn't speak English, doesn't live where you live, doesn't socialise where you socialise and gets paid an awful lot less than you?

I am sure that anecdotes about being friends with Bulgarian bus drivers and Romanian baristas will pour in but the fact is that mass immigration is creating such a difference in living standards doesn't sit comfortably with me and I am not a mung bean eating leftie,

It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 15 6.37am
Quote matt_himself at 15 May 2015 5.13am Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm According to article in the Times today of the 500K+ jobs created recently well over 50% were taken by immigrant workers - mainly from Rumania and Bulgaria. Seems UK is doing a better job for their unemployed than our own! Interesting hypothesis by the Murdoch press,given that as of late 2014, the total number of Romanians and Bulgarians living in the UK including students and dependants (let alone those who might have recently taken a "newly created" job) was estimated to be below 40% of 500,000 (let alone 500,000 plus). But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take. Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am) Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left. Doesn't it sit at odds with your beliefs that all mass immigration is doing is creating an underclass? This underclass doesn't speak English, doesn't live where you live, doesn't socialise where you socialise and gets paid an awful lot less than you? I am sure that anecdotes about being friends with Bulgarian bus drivers and Romanian baristas will pour in but the fact is that mass immigration is creating such a difference in living standards doesn't sit comfortably with me and I am not a mung bean eating leftie, It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right. Superiority? Lolz.
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Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am

Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm

But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take.

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am)

Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left.

It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right.

Superiority?

Lolz.

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matt_himself Matataland 15 May 15 6.58am
Quote nickgusset at 15 May 2015 6.37am Quote matt_himself at 15 May 2015 5.13am Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm According to article in the Times today of the 500K+ jobs created recently well over 50% were taken by immigrant workers - mainly from Rumania and Bulgaria. Seems UK is doing a better job for their unemployed than our own! Interesting hypothesis by the Murdoch press,given that as of late 2014, the total number of Romanians and Bulgarians living in the UK including students and dependants (let alone those who might have recently taken a "newly created" job) was estimated to be below 40% of 500,000 (let alone 500,000 plus). But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take. Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am) Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left. Doesn't it sit at odds with your beliefs that all mass immigration is doing is creating an underclass? This underclass doesn't speak English, doesn't live where you live, doesn't socialise where you socialise and gets paid an awful lot less than you? I am sure that anecdotes about being friends with Bulgarian bus drivers and Romanian baristas will pour in but the fact is that mass immigration is creating such a difference in living standards doesn't sit comfortably with me and I am not a mung bean eating leftie, It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right. Superiority? Lolz. Do you have an opinion on how mass migration is creating an underclass? More worryingly, I believe that mass migration is causing an economic apartheid. Walk around any major conurbation and it is easy to spot low rent, deprived ghettos which are largely inhabited by those seeking work in the UK. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 15 May 15 6.58am

Quote nickgusset at 15 May 2015 6.37am

Quote matt_himself at 15 May 2015 5.13am

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am

Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm

But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take.

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am)

Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left.

It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right.

Superiority?

Lolz.

Do you have an opinion on how mass migration is creating an underclass? More worryingly, I believe that mass migration is causing an economic apartheid. Walk around any major conurbation and it is easy to spot low rent, deprived ghettos which are largely inhabited by those seeking work in the UK.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Kermit8 Hevon 15 May 15 7.28am
Nothing new. We've had a noticeable "underclass", "economic apartheid" and subsequent ghettoes of a kind - cardboard city on The South Bank for example - since the vicious manufacturing upheavals and other Government policies of the 80's. I do agree the situation is wholly unpleasant. Immigrant beggars coming over here taking the urine soaked doorways of our own. No one should have to live like that in a first world developed and supposedly civilised country. Should remember though it is an immigrant minority who end up living unemployed and rough. We need the others to help pick our fruit and veg and work in other tough jobs in care homes, etc. Anyhow, isn't just freedom of moment rather than mass immigration? A significant many return home within a few years to Poland. Just them backpacking really and working at the same time. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Nothing new. We've had a noticeable "underclass", "economic apartheid" and subsequent ghettoes of a kind - cardboard city on The South Bank for example - since the vicious manufacturing upheavals and other Government policies of the 80's.

I do agree the situation is wholly unpleasant. Immigrant beggars coming over here taking the urine soaked doorways of our own.

No one should have to live like that in a first world developed and supposedly civilised country.

Should remember though it is an immigrant minority who end up living unemployed and rough. We need the others to help pick our fruit and veg and work in other tough jobs in care homes, etc.

Anyhow, isn't just freedom of moment rather than mass immigration? A significant many return home within a few years to Poland. Just them backpacking really and working at the same time.

Big chest and massive boobs

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npn Crowborough 15 May 15 8.03am
Quote nickgusset at 15 May 2015 6.37am Quote matt_himself at 15 May 2015 5.13am Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm According to article in the Times today of the 500K+ jobs created recently well over 50% were taken by immigrant workers - mainly from Rumania and Bulgaria. Seems UK is doing a better job for their unemployed than our own! Interesting hypothesis by the Murdoch press,given that as of late 2014, the total number of Romanians and Bulgarians living in the UK including students and dependants (let alone those who might have recently taken a "newly created" job) was estimated to be below 40% of 500,000 (let alone 500,000 plus). But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take. Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am) Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left. Doesn't it sit at odds with your beliefs that all mass immigration is doing is creating an underclass? This underclass doesn't speak English, doesn't live where you live, doesn't socialise where you socialise and gets paid an awful lot less than you? I am sure that anecdotes about being friends with Bulgarian bus drivers and Romanian baristas will pour in but the fact is that mass immigration is creating such a difference in living standards doesn't sit comfortably with me and I am not a mung bean eating leftie, It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right. Superiority? Lolz. I have nothing of value to add, and am following the debate with interest, however, I do have to take exception to something I find downright offensive - Lolz? Really? From an adult? And a teacher? I must be getting old.
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Quote nickgusset at 15 May 2015 6.37am

Quote matt_himself at 15 May 2015 5.13am

Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am

Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm

But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take.

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am)

Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left.

It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right.

Superiority?

Lolz.

I have nothing of value to add, and am following the debate with interest, however, I do have to take exception to something I find downright offensive - Lolz? Really? From an adult? And a teacher?

I must be getting old.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 May 15 8.14am
Quote npn at 15 May 2015 8.03am Quote nickgusset at 15 May 2015 6.37am Quote matt_himself at 15 May 2015 5.13am Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm According to article in the Times today of the 500K+ jobs created recently well over 50% were taken by immigrant workers - mainly from Rumania and Bulgaria. Seems UK is doing a better job for their unemployed than our own! Interesting hypothesis by the Murdoch press,given that as of late 2014, the total number of Romanians and Bulgarians living in the UK including students and dependants (let alone those who might have recently taken a "newly created" job) was estimated to be below 40% of 500,000 (let alone 500,000 plus). But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take. Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am) Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left. Doesn't it sit at odds with your beliefs that all mass immigration is doing is creating an underclass? This underclass doesn't speak English, doesn't live where you live, doesn't socialise where you socialise and gets paid an awful lot less than you? I am sure that anecdotes about being friends with Bulgarian bus drivers and Romanian baristas will pour in but the fact is that mass immigration is creating such a difference in living standards doesn't sit comfortably with me and I am not a mung bean eating leftie, It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right. Superiority? Lolz. I have nothing of value to add, and am following the debate with interest, however, I do have to take exception to something I find downright offensive - Lolz? Really? From an adult? And a teacher? I must be getting old. I iz down with da kidz innit.
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Quote legaleagle at 15 May 2015 1.43am

Quote rob1969 at 14 May 2015 4.33pm

But,if it was in the Murdoch press,it must be correct...and it must be those pesky Romanians and Hungarians lining up to take those jobs we would otherwise so desperately want to take.

Edited by legaleagle (15 May 2015 1.47am)

Beneath the above sarcasm and superiority, lies something that I just do not understand about the left.

It appears that the left is more concerned with politically correct attitudes about immigration rather than the effects of immigration on all parties concerned with it. That isn't right.

Superiority?

Lolz.

I have nothing of value to add, and am following the debate with interest, however, I do have to take exception to something I find downright offensive - Lolz? Really? From an adult? And a teacher?

I must be getting old.

I iz down with da kidz innit.

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