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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jan 16 12.47am
Quote Jimenez at 23 Jan 2016 12.44am Quote nickgusset at 23 Jan 2016 12.40am Straight Outta Compton was a great film I thought. Thanks for the derisory comments Matthew,it's funny how you've become a little less personable since your yellow disappeared. Shows the real you. I've been banging on about an alternative to austerity ever since the con-dems first got into power all of them years ago. I was derided. Since then we have seen someone from the left democratically ELECTED into the labour leadership in order that the anti austerity message is brought to the mainstream. More and more people seem to be getting on board with it. I think that Corbyn's message will filter through, despite the media's attempts to derail his leadership, give him time. The Labour PPB clearly shows the direction that Corbyn wants to take Labour. Sweet FA about it in the media. Rather than disseminate what is wrong with his ideas, some resort to remarks like 'It's Anti-Tory Propaganda' and name calling as as a retort,or saying 'ooh he's a bit scruffy' (Einstein's theories are bollocks because he was scruffy?) as if that has any credence compared to unpicking, with decent evidence and eloquence, what exactly is wrong with Corbyn's ideas. The Tories are ruining this country and lying about previous Labour administrations (see this for instance [Link] -sorry it's not in the Telegraph or Guido Fawkes so it must be wrong. ) I think some people are paranoid Do you know something? I made a s*** load of money out of this film as did many of my counterparts. Fair play. Shows good entrepreneurial spirit. Straight out of south london to New York
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Shizzlehurst 23 Jan 16 12.47am

Quote Jimenez at 23 Jan 2016 12.44am

Quote nickgusset at 23 Jan 2016 12.40am

Straight Outta Compton was a great film I thought. Thanks for the derisory comments Matthew,it's funny how you've become a little less personable since your yellow disappeared. Shows the real you.

I've been banging on about an alternative to austerity ever since the con-dems first got into power all of them years ago. I was derided.
Since then we have seen someone from the left democratically ELECTED into the labour leadership in order that the anti austerity message is brought to the mainstream. More and more people seem to be getting on board with it.
I think that Corbyn's message will filter through, despite the media's attempts to derail his leadership, give him time.

The Labour PPB clearly shows the direction that Corbyn wants to take Labour. Sweet FA about it in the media. Rather than disseminate what is wrong with his ideas, some resort to remarks like 'It's Anti-Tory Propaganda' and name calling as as a retort,or saying 'ooh he's a bit scruffy' (Einstein's theories are bollocks because he was scruffy?) as if that has any credence compared to unpicking, with decent evidence and eloquence, what exactly is wrong with Corbyn's ideas.

The Tories are ruining this country and lying about previous Labour administrations (see this for instance [Link] -sorry it's not in the Telegraph or Guido Fawkes so it must be wrong.
)

I think some people are paranoid

Do you know something? I made a s*** load of money out of this film as did many of my counterparts.

Fair play. Shows good entrepreneurial spirit.

Straight out of south london to New York

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matt_himself Matataland 23 Jan 16 6.42am
Quote nickgusset at 23 Jan 2016 12.40am Straight Outta Compton was a great film I thought. Thanks for the derisory comments Matthew,it's funny how you've become a little less personable since your yellow disappeared. Shows the real you. I've been banging on about an alternative to austerity ever since the con-dems first got into power all of them years ago. I was derided. Since then we have seen someone from the left democratically ELECTED into the labour leadership in order that the anti austerity message is brought to the mainstream. More and more people seem to be getting on board with it. I think that Corbyn's message will filter through, despite the media's attempts to derail his leadership, give him time. The Labour PPB clearly shows the direction that Corbyn wants to take Labour. Sweet FA about it in the media. Rather than disseminate what is wrong with his ideas, some resort to remarks like 'It's Anti-Tory Propaganda' and name calling as as a retort,or saying 'ooh he's a bit scruffy' (Einstein's theories are bollocks because he was scruffy?) as if that has any credence compared to unpicking, with decent evidence and eloquence, what exactly is wrong with Corbyn's ideas. The Tories are ruining this country and lying about previous Labour administrations (see this for instance [Link] -sorry it's not in the Telegraph or Guido Fawkes so it must be wrong. ) I think some people are paranoid A few observations. Corbyn is deeply unpopular. No other Labour leader has been as unpopular as him in this cycle of their leadership. Look at Scotland, a place where, we are told, the so called 'anti austerity' vote is key to the recent success of the SNP. Are Labour regaining votes since Corbyn's leadership began? No, they are likely to be wiped out in the Holyrood elections. What does that tell you. Corbyn is killing democracy in the Labour Party through a purge of opponents. Corbyn is gaffe prone. He says things which are completely out of step with voters thoughts. Corbyn represents an elite which is a world away from working people. Corbyn has never done a useful days work in his life, is an old man playing student politics and is surrounded by a group of geriatric revolutionaries. How can a man with such a background and group of contemporaries be taken seriously. Corbyn is surrounded by odious people with odious views. McConnell, Abbott, Livingstone, all have said some things, which are on public record, which are odious. I am not going to be drawn into a debate on the personal aspect of your post bit it is safe to say that you never held back from the odd 'derisory comment' about me. Edited by matt_himself (23 Jan 2016 6.50am) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 23 Jan 16 6.42am

Quote nickgusset at 23 Jan 2016 12.40am

Straight Outta Compton was a great film I thought. Thanks for the derisory comments Matthew,it's funny how you've become a little less personable since your yellow disappeared. Shows the real you.

The Tories are ruining this country and lying about previous Labour administrations (see this for instance [Link] -sorry it's not in the Telegraph or Guido Fawkes so it must be wrong.
)

I think some people are paranoid

A few observations.

Corbyn is deeply unpopular. No other Labour leader has been as unpopular as him in this cycle of their leadership. Look at Scotland, a place where, we are told, the so called 'anti austerity' vote is key to the recent success of the SNP. Are Labour regaining votes since Corbyn's leadership began? No, they are likely to be wiped out in the Holyrood elections. What does that tell you.

Corbyn is killing democracy in the Labour Party through a purge of opponents.

Corbyn is gaffe prone. He says things which are completely out of step with voters thoughts.

Corbyn represents an elite which is a world away from working people. Corbyn has never done a useful days work in his life, is an old man playing student politics and is surrounded by a group of geriatric revolutionaries. How can a man with such a background and group of contemporaries be taken seriously.

Corbyn is surrounded by odious people with odious views. McConnell, Abbott, Livingstone, all have said some things, which are on public record, which are odious.

I am not going to be drawn into a debate on the personal aspect of your post bit it is safe to say that you never held back from the odd 'derisory comment' about me.

Edited by matt_himself (23 Jan 2016 6.50am)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Hoof Hearted 23 Jan 16 11.36am
Matt.... disengage from this "debate".. it is like trying to re-educate the khmer rouge with gusset and his blind loyalty to Corbyn. He doesn't understand facts and figures... we've proven that countless times on here with discussions about pensions. He also doesn't understand that Corbyn's followers are paid up members of the Labour Party currently totalling about 250K whereas the voters he needs to attract to get elected would be in the region of about 12 million.... the latest polls show Corbyn and Labour are actually turning potential voters off. This thread should be allowed to die like Corbyn's challenge for PM will inevitably do - it is only you and him keeping it going!
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Hoof Hearted 23 Jan 16 11.36am

Matt.... disengage from this "debate".. it is like trying to re-educate the khmer rouge with gusset and his blind loyalty to Corbyn.

He doesn't understand facts and figures... we've proven that countless times on here with discussions about pensions.

He also doesn't understand that Corbyn's followers are paid up members of the Labour Party currently totalling about 250K whereas the voters he needs to attract to get elected would be in the region of about 12 million.... the latest polls show Corbyn and Labour are actually turning potential voters off.

This thread should be allowed to die like Corbyn's challenge for PM will inevitably do - it is only you and him keeping it going!

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Stuk Top half 25 Jan 16 1.58pm
Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 7.13pm Quote fed up eagle at 27 Jul 2015 6.14pm Corbyn wants to nationalise the banks, the railways and we all know that that would be a disater. Good to see Corbyn is making an impact. I see that part of the railway services in London are being brought under the auspices of state owned TFL. He IS making a difference. [Link] That has nothing to do with him. He isn't making an impact on anyone but the likes of you. That impact being you have a very brown nose and tongue. From your own source: "The move has long been blocked by local councils just outside London" Optimistic as ever
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Top half 25 Jan 16 1.58pm

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Quote fed up eagle at 27 Jul 2015 6.14pm

Corbyn wants to nationalise the banks, the railways and we all know that that would be a disater.

Good to see Corbyn is making an impact.
I see that part of the railway services in London are being brought under the auspices of state owned TFL.
He IS making a difference.

[Link]

That has nothing to do with him. He isn't making an impact on anyone but the likes of you. That impact being you have a very brown nose and tongue.

From your own source: "The move has long been blocked by local councils just outside London"

Optimistic as ever

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 16 3.09pm
Quote Stuk at 25 Jan 2016 1.58pm Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 7.13pm Quote fed up eagle at 27 Jul 2015 6.14pm Corbyn wants to nationalise the banks, the railways and we all know that that would be a disater. Good to see Corbyn is making an impact. I see that part of the railway services in London are being brought under the auspices of state owned TFL. He IS making a difference. [Link] That has nothing to do with him. He isn't making an impact on anyone but the likes of you. That impact being you have a very brown nose and tongue. From your own source: "The move has long been blocked by local councils just outside London" Oh dear. You've reached new depths now... Does it upset you that a party leader espouses a lot of the same views that I have put on these boards for years. Hardly brown nosing is it. It's the policies not the person anyways. Edited by nickgusset (25 Jan 2016 3.09pm)
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Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 16 3.09pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Jan 2016 1.58pm

Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 7.13pm

Quote fed up eagle at 27 Jul 2015 6.14pm

Corbyn wants to nationalise the banks, the railways and we all know that that would be a disater.

Good to see Corbyn is making an impact.
I see that part of the railway services in London are being brought under the auspices of state owned TFL.
He IS making a difference.

[Link]

That has nothing to do with him. He isn't making an impact on anyone but the likes of you. That impact being you have a very brown nose and tongue.

From your own source: "The move has long been blocked by local councils just outside London"

Oh dear. You've reached new depths now...

Does it upset you that a party leader espouses a lot of the same views that I have put on these boards for years. Hardly brown nosing is it.

It's the policies not the person anyways.

Edited by nickgusset (25 Jan 2016 3.09pm)

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Stuk Top half 25 Jan 16 3.28pm
Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 3.09pm Quote Stuk at 25 Jan 2016 1.58pm Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 7.13pm Quote fed up eagle at 27 Jul 2015 6.14pm Corbyn wants to nationalise the banks, the railways and we all know that that would be a disater. Good to see Corbyn is making an impact. I see that part of the railway services in London are being brought under the auspices of state owned TFL. He IS making a difference. [Link] That has nothing to do with him. He isn't making an impact on anyone but the likes of you. That impact being you have a very brown nose and tongue. From your own source: "The move has long been blocked by local councils just outside London" Oh dear. You've reached new depths now... Does it upset you that a party leader espouses a lot of the same views that I have put on these boards for years. Hardly brown nosing is it. It's the policies not the person anyways. Edited by nickgusset (25 Jan 2016 3.09pm) Attributing things to him that he had nothing to do with. Saying "he makes a difference" when he hasn't, yes that's brown nosing. As always you ignore the actual subject of the post and pick off another line you think will make the debate go away. As I said, TFL taking charge of Greater London's rail services is nothing to do with him. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 25 Jan 16 3.28pm

Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 3.09pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Jan 2016 1.58pm

Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 7.13pm

Quote fed up eagle at 27 Jul 2015 6.14pm

Corbyn wants to nationalise the banks, the railways and we all know that that would be a disater.

Good to see Corbyn is making an impact.
I see that part of the railway services in London are being brought under the auspices of state owned TFL.
He IS making a difference.

[Link]

That has nothing to do with him. He isn't making an impact on anyone but the likes of you. That impact being you have a very brown nose and tongue.

From your own source: "The move has long been blocked by local councils just outside London"

Oh dear. You've reached new depths now...

Does it upset you that a party leader espouses a lot of the same views that I have put on these boards for years. Hardly brown nosing is it.

It's the policies not the person anyways.

Edited by nickgusset (25 Jan 2016 3.09pm)

Attributing things to him that he had nothing to do with. Saying "he makes a difference" when he hasn't, yes that's brown nosing.

As always you ignore the actual subject of the post and pick off another line you think will make the debate go away.

As I said, TFL taking charge of Greater London's rail services is nothing to do with him.

Optimistic as ever

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 25 Jan 16 3.50pm
Labour Party whitewash [Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 25 Jan 16 3.50pm

Labour Party whitewash

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the dignified don't even enter in the game

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jamiemartin721 Reading 25 Jan 16 4.22pm
Quote Jimenez at 23 Jan 2016 12.44am Quote nickgusset at 23 Jan 2016 12.40am Straight Outta Compton was a great film I thought. Thanks for the derisory comments Matthew,it's funny how you've become a little less personable since your yellow disappeared. Shows the real you. I've been banging on about an alternative to austerity ever since the con-dems first got into power all of them years ago. I was derided. Since then we have seen someone from the left democratically ELECTED into the labour leadership in order that the anti austerity message is brought to the mainstream. More and more people seem to be getting on board with it. I think that Corbyn's message will filter through, despite the media's attempts to derail his leadership, give him time. The Labour PPB clearly shows the direction that Corbyn wants to take Labour. Sweet FA about it in the media. Rather than disseminate what is wrong with his ideas, some resort to remarks like 'It's Anti-Tory Propaganda' and name calling as as a retort,or saying 'ooh he's a bit scruffy' (Einstein's theories are bollocks because he was scruffy?) as if that has any credence compared to unpicking, with decent evidence and eloquence, what exactly is wrong with Corbyn's ideas. The Tories are ruining this country and lying about previous Labour administrations (see this for instance [Link] -sorry it's not in the Telegraph or Guido Fawkes so it must be wrong. ) I think some people are paranoid Do you know something? I made a s*** load of money out of this film as did many of my counterparts. Sweet - Great film as well, even the missus loved it. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 25 Jan 16 4.22pm

Quote Jimenez at 23 Jan 2016 12.44am

Quote nickgusset at 23 Jan 2016 12.40am

Straight Outta Compton was a great film I thought. Thanks for the derisory comments Matthew,it's funny how you've become a little less personable since your yellow disappeared. Shows the real you.

The Tories are ruining this country and lying about previous Labour administrations (see this for instance [Link] -sorry it's not in the Telegraph or Guido Fawkes so it must be wrong.
)

I think some people are paranoid

Do you know something? I made a s*** load of money out of this film as did many of my counterparts.

Sweet - Great film as well, even the missus loved it.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 16 5.25pm
Regarding trident... 49% of poll respondents said no to trident1 [Link]
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Regarding trident...
49% of poll respondents said no to trident1
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Stuk Top half 25 Jan 16 5.38pm
Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.25pm Regarding trident... 49% of poll respondents said no to trident1 [Link] Which is in the minority to being with, but it's actually 20%. and that's in a poll done for a lefty paper. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 25 Jan 16 5.38pm

Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.25pm

Regarding trident...
49% of poll respondents said no to trident1
[Link]

Which is in the minority to being with, but it's actually 20%.

and that's in a poll done for a lefty paper.

Optimistic as ever

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 16 5.42pm
Quote Stuk at 25 Jan 2016 5.38pm Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.25pm Regarding trident... 49% of poll respondents said no to trident1 [Link] Which is in the minority to being with, but it's actually 20%. and that's in a poll done for a lefty paper. 20% in favour of scrapping nuclear weapons completely. Read the article
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Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 16 5.42pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Jan 2016 5.38pm

Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.25pm

Regarding trident...
49% of poll respondents said no to trident1
[Link]

Which is in the minority to being with, but it's actually 20%.

and that's in a poll done for a lefty paper.

20% in favour of scrapping nuclear weapons completely. Read the article

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 25 Jan 16 5.46pm
Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.42pm Quote Stuk at 25 Jan 2016 5.38pm Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.25pm Regarding trident... 49% of poll respondents said no to trident1 [Link] Which is in the minority to being with, but it's actually 20%. and that's in a poll done for a lefty paper. 20% in favour of scrapping nuclear weapons completely. Read the article I might be wrong but I think until pressed for an answer, the majority of people don't give it a moments thought, one way or the other. Every now and again it be raised as an issue whether because of cost or moral grounds but I think even for most reasonably politically engaged people it is a long way down the list. Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (25 Jan 2016 5.46pm) the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 25 Jan 16 5.46pm

Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.42pm

Quote Stuk at 25 Jan 2016 5.38pm

Quote nickgusset at 25 Jan 2016 5.25pm

Regarding trident...
49% of poll respondents said no to trident1
[Link]

Which is in the minority to being with, but it's actually 20%.

and that's in a poll done for a lefty paper.

20% in favour of scrapping nuclear weapons completely. Read the article

I might be wrong but I think until pressed for an answer, the majority of people don't give it a moments thought, one way or the other. Every now and again it be raised as an issue whether because of cost or moral grounds but I think even for most reasonably politically engaged people it is a long way down the list.

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (25 Jan 2016 5.46pm)

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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