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fledgling Beckenham 12 Aug 15 12.57pm
Quote NickinOX at 12 Aug 2015 12.46pm Y Quote fledgling at 12 Aug 2015 8.25am Quote Spiderman at 11 Aug 2015 6.20pm Quote fledgling at 11 Aug 2015 5.00pm Quote Spiderman at 11 Aug 2015 4.53pm Quote fledgling at 11 Aug 2015 1.43pm Quote Indefatigable at 11 Aug 2015 11.52am Quote fledgling at 10 Aug 2015 4.13pm I'm no troll, I've posted on these boards sporadically for years. I never questioned his footballing abilities and like I said he's always impressed me on the pitch. I know when someone's had a skinful and he had as was obvious from his behaviour inside and outside the club (Cirque, Ganton Street). I saw him a month or so ago at the same venue and didn't post anything as what he does is his own business. But like I said seeing Wilf and Wickham out with him was a bit of a worry as although he maybe able to handle it, it's not a good example to the younger pros. Albeit - as I said in my post - they seemed sober. For the record Wilf seemed like a nice kid but Wickham not so much. How sure are you that is was Chamakh? Because a month or so ago was Ramadam. Not only is Chamakh a practising Muslim but he also fasts during Ramadam, except for match days and the day before, which he'll make up fasting at the end of Ramadam. There are no two people on this earth with that haircut. Ramadam or not, practicing or lapsed, it was Chamakh and he was brahms. His business, just don't like the idea of him dragging others down with him. Has he "dragged" then down, if they were sober!!? Surely they can go out on days off. So you think it's a good idea for professional athletes to be falling out of clubs at 3 in morning having just had 6 weeks off to fall out of as many clubs as they liked? Wilf and Wickham were pretty sober but the way they were behaving with Chamakh shouting his mouth off... if I were a pap I could easily have taken photos and tarred them all with the same brush. So are you saying players cannot go out during the season? This is planet earth you know. Was it 3 in the morning the day of a game? Have you had a bang on the head Peter Parker? I live on planet earth where the tabloids like nothing more than hanging footballers out to dry. What got more column inches on Sunday, Vardy's performance in a thrilling 4-2 opening day victory or his 'racist slurs'? Whilst I was watching those 3 clowns falling about I could almost read the copy in the morning paper "after vowing to make a fresh start £8m signing Connor Wickham was pictured staggering out of a Soho club at 3 in the morning with a visibly drunk, "injured" Marouane Chamakh and young starlet Wlfried Zaha...." Not big news but you could spin it to fill a few column inches. Of course they should celebrate success but they should be a bit more subtle and responsible about it. If the £50k a week salary doesn't compensate them for the sacrifices they have to make as elite athletes then they're in the wrong game. I thought you said it was only Chamakh who was stumbling about? This story gets better with each new version. I find it interesting that you're crticising the tabloids, while at the same time you are clearly outraged at these players' alleged behavior. Jesus Christ. I was giving an example of how a newspaper could spin it. Chamakh was falling over Wickham and you could easily have captured that image as both of them staggering about. I'm not outraged at all. No skin of my nose what they get up to. However looking at the bigger picture they need to be a bit more savvy how they behave in public and if they think they can juggle late nights and a career as a professional athlete they need to wise up.
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Beckenham 12 Aug 15 12.57pm

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I'm no troll, I've posted on these boards sporadically for years.

I never questioned his footballing abilities and like I said he's always impressed me on the pitch.

I know when someone's had a skinful and he had as was obvious from his behaviour inside and outside the club (Cirque, Ganton Street).

I saw him a month or so ago at the same venue and didn't post anything as what he does is his own business. But like I said seeing Wilf and Wickham out with him was a bit of a worry as although he maybe able to handle it, it's not a good example to the younger pros. Albeit - as I said in my post - they seemed sober.

For the record Wilf seemed like a nice kid but Wickham not so much.

How sure are you that is was Chamakh?

Because a month or so ago was Ramadam. Not only is Chamakh a practising Muslim but he also fasts during Ramadam, except for match days and the day before, which he'll make up fasting at the end of Ramadam.

There are no two people on this earth with that haircut.

Ramadam or not, practicing or lapsed, it was Chamakh and he was brahms. His business, just don't like the idea of him dragging others down with him.

Has he "dragged" then down, if they were sober!!? Surely they can go out on days off.

So you think it's a good idea for professional athletes to be falling out of clubs at 3 in morning having just had 6 weeks off to fall out of as many clubs as they liked?

Wilf and Wickham were pretty sober but the way they were behaving with Chamakh shouting his mouth off... if I were a pap I could easily have taken photos and tarred them all with the same brush.

So are you saying players cannot go out during the season? This is planet earth you know. Was it 3 in the morning the day of a game?

Have you had a bang on the head Peter Parker? I live on planet earth where the tabloids like nothing more than hanging footballers out to dry. What got more column inches on Sunday, Vardy's performance in a thrilling 4-2 opening day victory or his 'racist slurs'?

Whilst I was watching those 3 clowns falling about I could almost read the copy in the morning paper "after vowing to make a fresh start £8m signing Connor Wickham was pictured staggering out of a Soho club at 3 in the morning with a visibly drunk, "injured" Marouane Chamakh and young starlet Wlfried Zaha...." Not big news but you could spin it to fill a few column inches.

Of course they should celebrate success but they should be a bit more subtle and responsible about it.

If the £50k a week salary doesn't compensate them for the sacrifices they have to make as elite athletes then they're in the wrong game.

I thought you said it was only Chamakh who was stumbling about? This story gets better with each new version.

I find it interesting that you're crticising the tabloids, while at the same time you are clearly outraged at these players' alleged behavior.

Jesus Christ. I was giving an example of how a newspaper could spin it. Chamakh was falling over Wickham and you could easily have captured that image as both of them staggering about.

I'm not outraged at all. No skin of my nose what they get up to.

However looking at the bigger picture they need to be a bit more savvy how they behave in public and if they think they can juggle late nights and a career as a professional athlete they need to wise up.

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james03 Bangkok 12 Aug 15 1.08pm
Wickham and Zaha were not drunk and appeared perfectly sober according to the OP's report. No problem there then. Chamakh is injured/recovering and not yet in the first team plans so has a week or two where his training, if any right now, is not intense. No problem there then. The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx
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james03

Bangkok 12 Aug 15 1.08pm

Wickham and Zaha were not drunk and appeared perfectly sober according to the OP's report. No problem there then.

Chamakh is injured/recovering and not yet in the first team plans so has a week or two where his training, if any right now, is not intense. No problem there then.

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx

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Indefatigable South London 12 Aug 15 1.25pm
Quote Spiderman at 11 Aug 2015 4.56pm Quote Indefatigable at 11 Aug 2015 11.52am Quote fledgling at 10 Aug 2015 4.13pm I'm no troll, I've posted on these boards sporadically for years. I never questioned his footballing abilities and like I said he's always impressed me on the pitch. I know when someone's had a skinful and he had as was obvious from his behaviour inside and outside the club (Cirque, Ganton Street). I saw him a month or so ago at the same venue and didn't post anything as what he does is his own business. But like I said seeing Wilf and Wickham out with him was a bit of a worry as although he maybe able to handle it, it's not a good example to the younger pros. Albeit - as I said in my post - they seemed sober. For the record Wilf seemed like a nice kid but Wickham not so much. How sure are you that is was Chamakh? Because a month or so ago was Ramadam. Not only is Chamakh a practising Muslim but he also fasts during Ramadam, except for match days and the day before, which he'll make up fasting at the end of Ramadam. They only fast between sunrise and sunset , probs waited for sunset before hitting the club (I'm not saying he was drinking though!) Yes of course! Having said that though...if he hadn't eaten all day then you could forgive him for having one drink and seeming to be quite wasted. Also...I have Chamakh hair so two people in the world (at least) do have it...maybe it was me you saw stumbling about?!
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I'm no troll, I've posted on these boards sporadically for years.

I never questioned his footballing abilities and like I said he's always impressed me on the pitch.

I know when someone's had a skinful and he had as was obvious from his behaviour inside and outside the club (Cirque, Ganton Street).

For the record Wilf seemed like a nice kid but Wickham not so much.

How sure are you that is was Chamakh?

They only fast between sunrise and sunset , probs waited for sunset before hitting the club (I'm not saying he was drinking though!)

Yes of course!

Having said that though...if he hadn't eaten all day then you could forgive him for having one drink and seeming to be quite wasted.

Also...I have Chamakh hair so two people in the world (at least) do have it...maybe it was me you saw stumbling about?!

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NickinOX Sailing country. 12 Aug 15 1.35pm
Quote fledgling at 12 Aug 2015 12.57pm Quote NickinOX at 12 Aug 2015 12.46pm Y Quote fledgling at 12 Aug 2015 8.25am Quote Spiderman at 11 Aug 2015 6.20pm Quote fledgling at 11 Aug 2015 5.00pm Quote Spiderman at 11 Aug 2015 4.53pm Quote fledgling at 11 Aug 2015 1.43pm Quote Indefatigable at 11 Aug 2015 11.52am Quote fledgling at 10 Aug 2015 4.13pm I'm no troll, I've posted on these boards sporadically for years. I never questioned his footballing abilities and like I said he's always impressed me on the pitch. I know when someone's had a skinful and he had as was obvious from his behaviour inside and outside the club (Cirque, Ganton Street). I saw him a month or so ago at the same venue and didn't post anything as what he does is his own business. But like I said seeing Wilf and Wickham out with him was a bit of a worry as although he maybe able to handle it, it's not a good example to the younger pros. Albeit - as I said in my post - they seemed sober. For the record Wilf seemed like a nice kid but Wickham not so much. How sure are you that is was Chamakh? Because a month or so ago was Ramadam. Not only is Chamakh a practising Muslim but he also fasts during Ramadam, except for match days and the day before, which he'll make up fasting at the end of Ramadam. There are no two people on this earth with that haircut. Ramadam or not, practicing or lapsed, it was Chamakh and he was brahms. His business, just don't like the idea of him dragging others down with him. Has he "dragged" then down, if they were sober!!? Surely they can go out on days off. So you think it's a good idea for professional athletes to be falling out of clubs at 3 in morning having just had 6 weeks off to fall out of as many clubs as they liked? Wilf and Wickham were pretty sober but the way they were behaving with Chamakh shouting his mouth off... if I were a pap I could easily have taken photos and tarred them all with the same brush. So are you saying players cannot go out during the season? This is planet earth you know. Was it 3 in the morning the day of a game? Have you had a bang on the head Peter Parker? I live on planet earth where the tabloids like nothing more than hanging footballers out to dry. What got more column inches on Sunday, Vardy's performance in a thrilling 4-2 opening day victory or his 'racist slurs'? Whilst I was watching those 3 clowns falling about I could almost read the copy in the morning paper "after vowing to make a fresh start £8m signing Connor Wickham was pictured staggering out of a Soho club at 3 in the morning with a visibly drunk, "injured" Marouane Chamakh and young starlet Wlfried Zaha...." Not big news but you could spin it to fill a few column inches. Of course they should celebrate success but they should be a bit more subtle and responsible about it. If the £50k a week salary doesn't compensate them for the sacrifices they have to make as elite athletes then they're in the wrong game. I thought you said it was only Chamakh who was stumbling about? This story gets better with each new version. I find it interesting that you're crticising the tabloids, while at the same time you are clearly outraged at these players' alleged behavior. Jesus Christ. I was giving an example of how a newspaper could spin it. Chamakh was falling over Wickham and you could easily have captured that image as both of them staggering about. I'm not outraged at all. No skin of my nose what they get up to. However looking at the bigger picture they need to be a bit more savvy how they behave in public and if they think they can juggle late nights and a career as a professional athlete they need to wise up. I quoted you exactly. See above. I get your point, but why not say it more accurately in the first place? If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 12 Aug 15 1.35pm

Quote fledgling at 12 Aug 2015 12.57pm

Quote NickinOX at 12 Aug 2015 12.46pm

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Quote fledgling at 11 Aug 2015 5.00pm

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Quote fledgling at 10 Aug 2015 4.13pm

I'm no troll, I've posted on these boards sporadically for years.

I never questioned his footballing abilities and like I said he's always impressed me on the pitch.

I know when someone's had a skinful and he had as was obvious from his behaviour inside and outside the club (Cirque, Ganton Street).

For the record Wilf seemed like a nice kid but Wickham not so much.

How sure are you that is was Chamakh?

There are no two people on this earth with that haircut.

Ramadam or not, practicing or lapsed, it was Chamakh and he was brahms. His business, just don't like the idea of him dragging others down with him.

Has he "dragged" then down, if they were sober!!? Surely they can go out on days off.

So you think it's a good idea for professional athletes to be falling out of clubs at 3 in morning having just had 6 weeks off to fall out of as many clubs as they liked?

Wilf and Wickham were pretty sober but the way they were behaving with Chamakh shouting his mouth off... if I were a pap I could easily have taken photos and tarred them all with the same brush.

So are you saying players cannot go out during the season? This is planet earth you know. Was it 3 in the morning the day of a game?

Whilst I was watching those 3 clowns falling about I could almost read the copy in the morning paper "after vowing to make a fresh start £8m signing Connor Wickham was pictured staggering out of a Soho club at 3 in the morning with a visibly drunk, "injured" Marouane Chamakh and young starlet Wlfried Zaha...." Not big news but you could spin it to fill a few column inches.

Of course they should celebrate success but they should be a bit more subtle and responsible about it.

If the £50k a week salary doesn't compensate them for the sacrifices they have to make as elite athletes then they're in the wrong game.

I thought you said it was only Chamakh who was stumbling about? This story gets better with each new version.

I find it interesting that you're crticising the tabloids, while at the same time you are clearly outraged at these players' alleged behavior.

Jesus Christ. I was giving an example of how a newspaper could spin it. Chamakh was falling over Wickham and you could easily have captured that image as both of them staggering about.

I'm not outraged at all. No skin of my nose what they get up to.

I quoted you exactly. See above.

I get your point, but why not say it more accurately in the first place?

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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beer man Kent 12 Aug 15 2.08pm
[Link] He is a practising Muslim and teetotal I think it more likely that fledgers has been 'smashed to pieces twice in the last month' and his memory of events is a bit hazy LOL
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beer man

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He is a practising Muslim and teetotal

I think it more likely that fledgers has been 'smashed to pieces twice in the last month' and his memory of events is a bit hazy LOL

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fledgling Beckenham 12 Aug 15 2.19pm
Quote NickinOX at 12 Aug 2015 1.35pm Quote fledgling at 12 Aug 2015 12.57pm Quote NickinOX at 12 Aug 2015 12.46pm Y Quote fledgling at 12 Aug 2015 8.25am Quote Spiderman at 11 Aug 2015 6.20pm Quote fledgling at 11 Aug 2015 5.00pm Quote Spiderman at 11 Aug 2015 4.53pm Quote fledgling at 11 Aug 2015 1.43pm Quote Indefatigable at 11 Aug 2015 11.52am Quote fledgling at 10 Aug 2015 4.13pm I'm no troll, I've posted on these boards sporadically for years. I never questioned his footballing abilities and like I said he's always impressed me on the pitch. I know when someone's had a skinful and he had as was obvious from his behaviour inside and outside the club (Cirque, Ganton Street). I saw him a month or so ago at the same venue and didn't post anything as what he does is his own business. But like I said seeing Wilf and Wickham out with him was a bit of a worry as although he maybe able to handle it, it's not a good example to the younger pros. Albeit - as I said in my post - they seemed sober. For the record Wilf seemed like a nice kid but Wickham not so much. How sure are you that is was Chamakh? Because a month or so ago was Ramadam. Not only is Chamakh a practising Muslim but he also fasts during Ramadam, except for match days and the day before, which he'll make up fasting at the end of Ramadam. There are no two people on this earth with that haircut. Ramadam or not, practicing or lapsed, it was Chamakh and he was brahms. His business, just don't like the idea of him dragging others down with him. Has he "dragged" then down, if they were sober!!? Surely they can go out on days off. So you think it's a good idea for professional athletes to be falling out of clubs at 3 in morning having just had 6 weeks off to fall out of as many clubs as they liked? Wilf and Wickham were pretty sober but the way they were behaving with Chamakh shouting his mouth off... if I were a pap I could easily have taken photos and tarred them all with the same brush. So are you saying players cannot go out during the season? This is planet earth you know. Was it 3 in the morning the day of a game? Have you had a bang on the head Peter Parker? I live on planet earth where the tabloids like nothing more than hanging footballers out to dry. What got more column inches on Sunday, Vardy's performance in a thrilling 4-2 opening day victory or his 'racist slurs'? Whilst I was watching those 3 clowns falling about I could almost read the copy in the morning paper "after vowing to make a fresh start £8m signing Connor Wickham was pictured staggering out of a Soho club at 3 in the morning with a visibly drunk, "injured" Marouane Chamakh and young starlet Wlfried Zaha...." Not big news but you could spin it to fill a few column inches. Of course they should celebrate success but they should be a bit more subtle and responsible about it. If the £50k a week salary doesn't compensate them for the sacrifices they have to make as elite athletes then they're in the wrong game. I thought you said it was only Chamakh who was stumbling about? This story gets better with each new version. I find it interesting that you're crticising the tabloids, while at the same time you are clearly outraged at these players' alleged behavior. Jesus Christ. I was giving an example of how a newspaper could spin it. Chamakh was falling over Wickham and you could easily have captured that image as both of them staggering about. I'm not outraged at all. No skin of my nose what they get up to. However looking at the bigger picture they need to be a bit more savvy how they behave in public and if they think they can juggle late nights and a career as a professional athlete they need to wise up. I quoted you exactly. See above. I get your point, but why not say it more accurately in the first place? The three of them were falling about - ever tried to support one of your mates whose being a drunken liability, or try and get them to go in a direction they don't want to go? When they were outside deciding on where to go next Chamakh was careering into the both of them and others in their entourage. Can you not picture the scene, never been outside a club/pub at kicking out time, do I have to spell everything out?
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fledgling

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