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Quote Frickin Saweet at 24 Nov 2015 9.46am

about time someone stood up to the Ruskies who continually flout international rules and think that no one will seriously challenge them on it. Luckily the two pilots ejected so no deaths, just a few million quid for a replacement jet and some explaining to do.


"flout international rules"

You do understand this? The Iraq war that you supported. Charge!!!! Flouted international rules.

You probably will never ever ever realize this. But where you get your opinions from. Its just a big pile of smelly s***. The newspapers lie to you. They lie to you because you are probably stupid.

 

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Quote Frickin Saweet at 24 Nov 2015 9.46am

about time someone stood up to the Ruskies who continually flout international rules and think that no one will seriously challenge them on it. Luckily the two pilots ejected so no deaths, just a few million quid for a replacement jet and some explaining to do.


Actually some Turkmen fighting the Kurds (Turkey's enemy and therefore a teeny weeny bit supporting ISIS who Turkey have a bit of an alliance with as they attack Kurds) shot a pilot while he was parachuting down. I don't give too much of a f*** as he was probably killing civilians as these brave bomber pilots attacking areas without much air defense tend to nowadays. Not like the old Pathfinder boys.

But if one of "our boys" got shot while parachuting I suspect you would feel less at ease about it.

Actually Syria is all about oil pipes, which is why Cameron originally wanted to bomb Syria because Assad chemically attacked his people has became Cameron wanting to bomb Syria and protect Assad against ISIS. ISIS are sitting on the pipe line that we wanted the rebels to have to so we could have it.

It simple really and to do with money and not people. There is nothing humanitarian about our involvement or Russia's involvement in Syria.

Edited by Bert the Head (25 Nov 2015 10.41pm)

 

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 25 Nov 2015 11.14am

Quote serial thriller at 24 Nov 2015 3.55pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Nov 2015 10.53am

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The Turkish government seems like they support isis .


Both Muslim.... so no real surprise?


Once again Hoof, your ignorance and borderline racism on the matter continues to astound me.

Turkey do have a lot to answer for, particularly in their aggressive position against the Kurds, who are one of the major forces preventing IS from spreading further into Northern Syria and Iraq. But few nations have more to fear from IS than Turkey, given that IS follow a prophetic line which explicitly mentions retaking Istanbul.

Oh, and of course we could go in to the fact that IS are a far greater threat to Shia Muslims than to white Christians, or the fact that in Yemen IS bombed a mosque full of Zaidi Sunnis as well, or the fact that every single group on the ground fighting IS are predominantly Muslim. But then I guess it's much easier just to be a racist isn't it?


Right... stop calling me a racist every time I post something it is getting boring and tedious.

Is Turkey a Muslim country?

Are ISIS a Muslim terrorist army?

Even you cannot argue that the answer to both questions is yes, so what I have written is fact.

You may not like what I say, but when it is factual you have no right or cause to call me a racist.

Grow up man.


But if I think you are a racist, or have posted something which is racist, am I not within my rights to call you out as one? I don't use the term lightly, that's why I've backed up both accusations with explanations, but I know you don't like reading my posts and therefore rarely engage in the criticisms I level at you.

And your post is quite clearly not purely dealing in facts. You are attempting to lump together two completely different strands of Islam and suggest that Turkey are in league with IS, purely because it is a Muslim-majority country. It's the same thing as me assuming that you support evangelicals in America who murder doctors who carry out abortion. It is making an assumption based on a shared ethical background and belief system which, I believe, is racist.

 


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Hoof Hearted 26 Nov 15 9.51am

Quote serial thriller at 25 Nov 2015 10.49pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 25 Nov 2015 11.14am

Quote serial thriller at 24 Nov 2015 3.55pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Nov 2015 10.53am

Quote farms at 24 Nov 2015 10.11am

The Turkish government seems like they support isis .


Both Muslim.... so no real surprise?


Once again Hoof, your ignorance and borderline racism on the matter continues to astound me.

Turkey do have a lot to answer for, particularly in their aggressive position against the Kurds, who are one of the major forces preventing IS from spreading further into Northern Syria and Iraq. But few nations have more to fear from IS than Turkey, given that IS follow a prophetic line which explicitly mentions retaking Istanbul.

Oh, and of course we could go in to the fact that IS are a far greater threat to Shia Muslims than to white Christians, or the fact that in Yemen IS bombed a mosque full of Zaidi Sunnis as well, or the fact that every single group on the ground fighting IS are predominantly Muslim. But then I guess it's much easier just to be a racist isn't it?


Right... stop calling me a racist every time I post something it is getting boring and tedious.

Is Turkey a Muslim country?

Are ISIS a Muslim terrorist army?

Even you cannot argue that the answer to both questions is yes, so what I have written is fact.

You may not like what I say, but when it is factual you have no right or cause to call me a racist.

Grow up man.


But if I think you are a racist, or have posted something which is racist, am I not within my rights to call you out as one? I don't use the term lightly, that's why I've backed up both accusations with explanations, but I know you don't like reading my posts and therefore rarely engage in the criticisms I level at you.

And your post is quite clearly not purely dealing in facts. You are attempting to lump together two completely different strands of Islam and suggest that Turkey are in league with IS, purely because it is a Muslim-majority country. It's the same thing as me assuming that you support evangelicals in America who murder doctors who carry out abortion. It is making an assumption based on a shared ethical background and belief system which, I believe, is racist.


Fair enough.... for your weird views, opinions and interpretation of my statements on here - I think you are a tool and am well within my rights to call you out as one, so don't go complaining about it either.

 

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Hoof Hearted 26 Nov 15 10.12am

Quote Oliver at 25 Nov 2015 7.45pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 25 Nov 2015 11.09am

Quote EverybodyDannsNow at 24 Nov 2015 6.47pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Nov 2015 10.53am

Quote farms at 24 Nov 2015 10.11am

The Turkish government seems like they support isis .


Both Muslim.... so no real surprise?


Amongst the most laughable posts I've ever seen on this site - painfully ignorant


Sorry....... was I dreaming when I went to Turkey and saw all those Mosques?

You're becoming a bit of a troll/nause.

Well done Hoof Turkey is indeed a muslim country but you fail to understand the bigger picture


With respect.... you, Serial T1t and anybody else can level what judgements of me you like, you don't know me ....

It is astounding that all of you have been quick to point out the various different factions of Islam as though it was a massive secret and that you were enlightening the rest of us with your wisdom.

The best thing is that my original comment was a tongue-in-cheek jibe designed to wind you lefties up... fcuk me.... it worked better than I could have hoped for.

However... Despite the different types of Muslim factions that there are in the world, I doubt that it matters much when you hear "Allahu Akba" and are facing a hail of bullets as you go about your business.... I doubt many enquire as to what tranche of Islam their attacker is affiliated to when running for their lives or being blown up or beheaded.

Enjoy the video....

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Edited by Hoof Hearted (26 Nov 2015 10.13am)

 

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Hoof Hearted 26 Nov 15 10.18am

Quote Bert the Head at 25 Nov 2015 10.21pm

Quote Frickin Saweet at 24 Nov 2015 9.46am

about time someone stood up to the Ruskies who continually flout international rules and think that no one will seriously challenge them on it. Luckily the two pilots ejected so no deaths, just a few million quid for a replacement jet and some explaining to do.


"flout international rules"

You do understand this? The Iraq war that you supported. Charge!!!! Flouted international rules.

You probably will never ever ever realize this. But where you get your opinions from. Its just a big pile of smelly s***. The newspapers lie to you. They lie to you because you are probably stupid.


You can always rely on Bert the nobhead to trot out his favourite put down in any debate.

You must be close to having posted that same phrase about a thousand times Bert.

Give it a rest mate.

 

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Quote Bert the Head at 25 Nov 2015 10.21pm

Quote Frickin Saweet at 24 Nov 2015 9.46am

about time someone stood up to the Ruskies who continually flout international rules and think that no one will seriously challenge them on it. Luckily the two pilots ejected so no deaths, just a few million quid for a replacement jet and some explaining to do.


"flout international rules"

You do understand this? The Iraq war that you supported. Charge!!!! Flouted international rules.

You probably will never ever ever realize this. But where you get your opinions from. Its just a big pile of smelly s***. The newspapers lie to you. They lie to you because you are probably stupid.


I love quotes like this, the holier than thou I am far too clever for this board kinda post.

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Area 51, Zionist conspiracy or the Illuminati

 


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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 26 Nov 2015 10.42am

Quote Bert the Head at 25 Nov 2015 10.21pm

Quote Frickin Saweet at 24 Nov 2015 9.46am

about time someone stood up to the Ruskies who continually flout international rules and think that no one will seriously challenge them on it. Luckily the two pilots ejected so no deaths, just a few million quid for a replacement jet and some explaining to do.


"flout international rules"

You do understand this? The Iraq war that you supported. Charge!!!! Flouted international rules.

You probably will never ever ever realize this. But where you get your opinions from. Its just a big pile of smelly s***. The newspapers lie to you. They lie to you because you are probably stupid.


I love quotes like this, the holier than thou I am far too clever for this board kinda post.

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Area 51, Zionist conspiracy or the Illuminati


The guy's a tw@t.

 


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Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Nov 2015 10.18am

Quote Bert the Head at 25 Nov 2015 10.21pm

Quote Frickin Saweet at 24 Nov 2015 9.46am

about time someone stood up to the Ruskies who continually flout international rules and think that no one will seriously challenge them on it. Luckily the two pilots ejected so no deaths, just a few million quid for a replacement jet and some explaining to do.


"flout international rules"

You do understand this? The Iraq war that you supported. Charge!!!! Flouted international rules.

You probably will never ever ever realize this. But where you get your opinions from. Its just a big pile of smelly s***. The newspapers lie to you. They lie to you because you are probably stupid.


You can always rely on Bert the nobhead to trot out his favourite put down in any debate.

You must be close to having posted that same phrase about a thousand times Bert.

Give it a rest mate.

All newspapers lie, didn't you know? Apart from the one Bert reads, of course...

 

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Hoof Hearted 26 Nov 15 10.59am

Quote Cucking Funt at 26 Nov 2015 10.47am

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 26 Nov 2015 10.42am

Quote Bert the Head at 25 Nov 2015 10.21pm

Quote Frickin Saweet at 24 Nov 2015 9.46am

about time someone stood up to the Ruskies who continually flout international rules and think that no one will seriously challenge them on it. Luckily the two pilots ejected so no deaths, just a few million quid for a replacement jet and some explaining to do.


"flout international rules"

You do understand this? The Iraq war that you supported. Charge!!!! Flouted international rules.

You probably will never ever ever realize this. But where you get your opinions from. Its just a big pile of smelly s***. The newspapers lie to you. They lie to you because you are probably stupid.


I love quotes like this, the holier than thou I am far too clever for this board kinda post.

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Area 51, Zionist conspiracy or the Illuminati


The guy's a tw@t.


To be fair to Bert... he does live in downtown Epsom, amongst the burnt out cars and social squalor that abounds there.

Judge him when you've spent a few nights in that hell-hole!

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 Nov 15 11.18am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Nov 2015 10.12am

Quote Oliver at 25 Nov 2015 7.45pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 25 Nov 2015 11.09am

Quote EverybodyDannsNow at 24 Nov 2015 6.47pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Nov 2015 10.53am

Quote farms at 24 Nov 2015 10.11am

The Turkish government seems like they support isis .


Both Muslim.... so no real surprise?


Amongst the most laughable posts I've ever seen on this site - painfully ignorant


Sorry....... was I dreaming when I went to Turkey and saw all those Mosques?

You're becoming a bit of a troll/nause.

Well done Hoof Turkey is indeed a muslim country but you fail to understand the bigger picture


With respect.... you, Serial T1t and anybody else can level what judgements of me you like, you don't know me ....

It is astounding that all of you have been quick to point out the various different factions of Islam as though it was a massive secret and that you were enlightening the rest of us with your wisdom.

The best thing is that my original comment was a tongue-in-cheek jibe designed to wind you lefties up... fcuk me.... it worked better than I could have hoped for.

However... Despite the different types of Muslim factions that there are in the world, I doubt that it matters much when you hear "Allahu Akba" and are facing a hail of bullets as you go about your business.... I doubt many enquire as to what tranche of Islam their attacker is affiliated to when running for their lives or being blown up or beheaded.

Enjoy the video....

[Link]

Edited by Hoof Hearted (26 Nov 2015 10.13am)

Almost certainly Sunnai Sulfists I'd imagine. Shia groups are more given towards National objectives rather than international one and focused on the Middle East.

Both of you need to leave 'each other' alone or the wrath of the modhammer.


 


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Hoof Hearted 26 Nov 15 11.20am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 26 Nov 2015 11.18am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Nov 2015 10.12am

Quote Oliver at 25 Nov 2015 7.45pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 25 Nov 2015 11.09am

Quote EverybodyDannsNow at 24 Nov 2015 6.47pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 24 Nov 2015 10.53am

Quote farms at 24 Nov 2015 10.11am

The Turkish government seems like they support isis .


Both Muslim.... so no real surprise?


Amongst the most laughable posts I've ever seen on this site - painfully ignorant


Sorry....... was I dreaming when I went to Turkey and saw all those Mosques?

You're becoming a bit of a troll/nause.

Well done Hoof Turkey is indeed a muslim country but you fail to understand the bigger picture


With respect.... you, Serial T1t and anybody else can level what judgements of me you like, you don't know me ....

It is astounding that all of you have been quick to point out the various different factions of Islam as though it was a massive secret and that you were enlightening the rest of us with your wisdom.

The best thing is that my original comment was a tongue-in-cheek jibe designed to wind you lefties up... fcuk me.... it worked better than I could have hoped for.

However... Despite the different types of Muslim factions that there are in the world, I doubt that it matters much when you hear "Allahu Akba" and are facing a hail of bullets as you go about your business.... I doubt many enquire as to what tranche of Islam their attacker is affiliated to when running for their lives or being blown up or beheaded.

Enjoy the video....

[Link]

Edited by Hoof Hearted (26 Nov 2015 10.13am)

Almost certainly Sunnai Sulfists I'd imagine. Shia groups are more given towards National objectives rather than international one and focused on the Middle East.

Both of you need to leave 'each other' alone or the wrath of the modhammer.



Suits me Jamie.

 

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