Should a general election be called.
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 the_mcanuff_stuff  Caterham 29 Jun 16 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Absolutely no way would I call a General Election if I was the new Tory leader. I would take over as PM, and carry out the will of the people but appointing a cross party committee of MP's also containing Farage and someone like James Dyson and/or Sugar/Bryson. Take command sort out the mess short term and wait for the EU to implode - which it surely will and then negotiate fair and lasting reciprocal trade deals with the ex EU nations who want to trade with us anyway but are stupidly toeing the EU line right now. Lets hope the new PM (Boris or Fox for me please) see it as I do. Oh and one final thing, tell Sturgeon and the SNP dissenters if they don't like Brexit they can have Independence for Scotland without the need for a 2nd referendum. Fcuk off now, here's some cash to help you set up ... don't come back crying in a few years time when it's all gone t1ts up though..... Bye.... X 1) There is no guarantee the EU will implode. There needs to be a "plan B". 2) Are you happy with the new PM deciding the post-Brexit outcome (without mandate)? What if they want EEA membership? What if they want to negotiate individual trade deals etc.? Point 2 especially I see as the elephant in the room: what do we want post Brexit and who will decide? Parliament, The people via referendum, the people via general election?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jul 16 6.32pm |
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The main brexiters have all but disappeared. We have a choice of Theresa (My hubby works for G4s)may and the other one I haven't heard of for Pm and lead us to the post Brexit nirvana, all to be decided by a couple of hundred thousand Tory members (average age 68. ) Democracy inaction. Edited by nickgusset (07 Jul 2016 6.33pm)
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| chris123 hove actually 07 Jul 16 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
The main brexiters have all but disappeared. We have a choice of Theresa (My hubby works for G4s)may and the other one I haven't heard of for Pm and lead us to the post Brexit nirvana, all to be decided by a couple of hundred thousand Tory members (average age 68. ) Democracy inaction. Edited by nickgusset (07 Jul 2016 6.33pm) That's not how it works though, is it. Once the people have decided, you get on with it and deliver the mandate.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jul 16 6.53pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
That's not how it works though, is it. Once the people have decided, you get on with it and deliver the mandate. What is the mandate?
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| chris123 hove actually 07 Jul 16 6.56pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What is the mandate? Brexit.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Jul 16 7.01pm |
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At the last General Election, the Conservatives offered a referendum and received a mandate to do so as they were elected to Government. The referendum was delivered and of course the electorate knew only too well that it could result in an "Out" or a "Remain". Now that we have voted "Out" it is incumbent on the Government who were voted in to get on with the complex task of extricating us from the dreaded EU.I don't see any reason for another General Election, indeed it would only be a huge distraction in the current circumstances.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 07 Jul 16 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Brexit. Is that it? How is it going to happen? Should the people have a say on who is best to lead Brexit? Cameron said he wasn't going to step down but did.
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| chris123 hove actually 07 Jul 16 7.34pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Is that it? How is it going to happen? Should the people have a say on who is best to lead Brexit? Cameron said he wasn't going to step down but did.
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Percy of Peckham  Eton Mess 07 Jul 16 7.51pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
The mandate has been delivered - now the Government must deliver, no need for an election. Agree, but where is the Government? Those who haven't already done a runner will soon be packing up for the summer hols. No strategy (Plan B if there ever was one?) in place until the Autumn. What a cock up!!!
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| chris123 hove actually 07 Jul 16 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by Percy of Peckham
Agree, but where is the Government? Those who haven't already done a runner will soon be packing up for the summer hols. No strategy (Plan B if there ever was one?) in place until the Autumn. What a cock up!!! Is that how you think Government works when Parliament isn't sitting?
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| Percy of Peckham Eton Mess 07 Jul 16 8.00pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Is that how you think Government works when Parliament isn't sitting? Let me ask you a question instead? Have you ever worked in a government department?
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| JohnyBoy 07 Jul 16 8.04pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
At the last General Election, the Conservatives offered a referendum and received a mandate to do so as they were elected to Government. The referendum was delivered and of course the electorate knew only too well that it could result in an "Out" or a "Remain". Now that we have voted "Out" it is incumbent on the Government who were voted in to get on with the complex task of extricating us from the dreaded EU.I don't see any reason for another General Election, indeed it would only be a huge distraction in the current circumstances. But the elected governments official position was to remain. They only gave leave to mps to have a free vote but the majority of tory mps wanted to remain and 3/4 of the elected mps from both sides wanted to remain. If the government, prime minister and parliament is elected according to representation of the people, then a referendum (especially as it degenerated into some kind of pop idol type reality show based on misinformation) which we understood to be 'advisory' cannot be used to undermine democracy. If it is the democratic will of the people to have May as pm, to have the governments official policy to brexit and more importantly what replaces it then lets have a general election - what is there to be scared of? cos i cant remember voting for/against a norway or canadian style trade/immigration policy...and i definitely didnt vote for against a sterling crisis, a constitutional confusion regarding the status of NI, Scotland & Gibraltar and the prospect of lower prosperity, underfunding of public services and a seemingly inept government and main opposition party.
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