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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 Mar 17 6.38am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

I won't be bothering unless I'm on 9 points, which at the moment is exactly 9 points away so I must be doing something right I guess.

It only takes a few moments of inattention to get nicked. I generally have a clean licence but ten years ago I was driving through Coventry when the speed limit on a wide dual carriageway suddenly dropped from 50 to 40 and I got flashed by a camera just a few yards into the lower limit. I was so annoyed with myself for not spotting the lower speed limit sign that I didn't spot another camera just 100 yards from the first and got flashed again.

Fortunately I only received one ticket but it could easily have been two and I am well aware that the main reason that I have had a clean licence ever since then is more down to luck than judgement

 

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View paperhat's Profile paperhat Flag croydon 09 Mar 17 8.52am Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

But hey, thanks for being as patronising as those I thought I'd encounter!! Surely these courses SHOULD be aimed at the idiots who do silly speeds on motorways and outside schools, not someone who does 60/70,000 miles a year and is flashes the occasional speed camera just over the limit? I don't know it all, but with 36 years driving experience with the above mileage every year for the last 20 I don't need to be told that 'speed kills' I'm experienced enough to know!! Maybe I would learn something and if it was good for you, then fine, but I won't be bothering unless I'm on 9 points, which at the moment is exactly 9 points away so I must be doing something right I guess.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Mar 17 8.55am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It only takes a few moments of inattention to get nicked. I generally have a clean licence but ten years ago I was driving through Coventry when the speed limit on a wide dual carriageway suddenly dropped from 50 to 40 and I got flashed by a camera just a few yards into the lower limit. I was so annoyed with myself for not spotting the lower speed limit sign that I didn't spot another camera just 100 yards from the first and got flashed again.

Fortunately I only received one ticket but it could easily have been two and I am well aware that the main reason that I have had a clean licence ever since then is more down to luck than judgement

There appears to be far more cameras in the midlands area than there are here down south.I know someone who got done in the Nottingham area for doing 39 in a 30 limit.He is from the south and had never got done before.

Evidently they are very 'Hot' about speeding in Australia.Unmarked cars patrol and all of a sudden a driver will see a car in front flashing a sign with words to the effect "Pull over - you have been caught driving over the limit".Someone I know who lives in Australia was fascinated by the fact that we had 'Speed cameras' warning signs on our roads before actual yellow boxes - he said there were no such warnings in Australia.

 

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View kenners46's Profile kenners46 Flag sydenham village 09 Mar 17 9.05am Send a Private Message to kenners46 Add kenners46 as a friend

Ive only been done once for speeding and that was to collect a numpty with a broken leg (you know who you are) so we could go to watch Surrey play cricket.
Been flashed at a few times by speed cameras but guess ive been lucky on that one and been flashed at by Michaela outside the chip shop in whitehorse lane which i was more than happy to pay an on the spot fine for

 

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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 09 Mar 17 9.25am Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by kenners46

Ive only been done once for speeding and that was to collect a numpty with a broken leg (you know who you are) so we could go to watch Surrey play cricket.
Been flashed at a few times by speed cameras but guess ive been lucky on that one and been flashed at by Michaela outside the chip shop in whitehorse lane which i was more than happy to pay an on the spot fine for

You were eyeing my lunch.. cheeky sod

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 09 Mar 17 9.56am

Originally posted by BarEagle

You can only do the course if you have not applied for one within last 3-years.

Course is better for insurance.

My Son recently did a course after goinmg through a red light. He got caught speeding just after and has been offered the same course. He has decided against doing the course as he said it was a waste of a days holiday and a complete waste of time. So has gone for the points and fine this time around.

 

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View paperhat's Profile paperhat Flag croydon 09 Mar 17 10.09am Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by bubble wrap

My Son recently did a course after going through a red light. He got caught speeding just after and has been offered the same course. He has decided against doing the course as he said it was a waste of a days holiday and a complete waste of time. So has gone for the points and fine this time around.

that's a shame as the course really is an eye opener.

anyone who's doing 100mph in a 70 zone (or similar levels over the set limit) knows they are doing it so is effectively choosing to break the limit .

Those marginally over whatever limit it is may be doing so through a lack of concentration/knowledge etc. What the course tells/reminds you is how to 'know' what the limit is whether there are signs up or not by the type of road - dual carriageway/lit road/unlit roads etc, how to know where 20/30mph zones are etc. Its all stuff that was in the highway code when we learnt to drive or more importantly, has been added since.

It focuses a lot on stopping distances at various speeds and how greatly the extend at only a small increase in the amount of speed. At 30mph, slamming the brakes on , you stop at point X. At 40mph and slamming the brakes on, you are still doing Y miles per hour at point X, that sort of thing.

It also focuses on the word 'limit'. It doesn't mean get to that speed and stay there. Things that some people take for granted, road conditions, traffic flow, weather etc but also the areas and time of day you are driving. It may be a 60mph limit but it also might not be safe to drive at that speed there.

I ,and it seems those who have also done it, can confirm that it has certainly changed how I look at driving, especially in built up areas.

Edited by paperhat (09 Mar 2017 11.45am)

 


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View OknotOK's Profile OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 09 Mar 17 11.17am Send a Private Message to OknotOK Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add OknotOK as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I've been done for speeding twice - 38 in a 30 in 2004 and 68 in a 50 in 2012.

On neither occasion was I even given the opportunity to take the course.

It's meant to be for those caught marginally speeding. I think for 70mph roads it was 85mph and above and the course wasn't offered. So presumably you were going too fast in each instance to be entitled to do the course.

Someone on my course had been caught doing 32 in a 30 zone and were furious about it (but does put to bed the myth that you are automatically allowed limit+10%+1mph. Typically you will get away with that but there is nothing in law)

 


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View paperhat's Profile paperhat Flag croydon 09 Mar 17 11.43am Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by OknotOK

It's meant to be for those caught marginally speeding. I think for 70mph roads it was 85mph and above and the course wasn't offered. So presumably you were going too fast in each instance to be entitled to do the course.

Someone on my course had been caught doing 32 in a 30 zone and were furious about it (but does put to bed the myth that you are automatically allowed limit+10%+1mph. Typically you will get away with that but there is nothing in law)

This is what gets me about drivers and the law - a lot think they know best.

1st march brought in 6pts and £200 if caught using a phone, They've hardly been quiet about it.

Where I work on the Brighton Road, There has been a fairly high profile police presence for 2 weeks and yet not a day has gone by yet where we haven't seen at least 4/5 people getting pulled using their phones. Everyone thinks they will get away with it, they wont get caught etc.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Mar 17 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by OknotOK

It's meant to be for those caught marginally speeding. I think for 70mph roads it was 85mph and above and the course wasn't offered. So presumably you were going too fast in each instance to be entitled to do the course.

Someone on my course had been caught doing 32 in a 30 zone and were furious about it (but does put to bed the myth that you are automatically allowed limit+10%+1mph. Typically you will get away with that but there is nothing in law)

I have always believed it was 10% above the speed limit + 2 MPH but that this was only a guideline and at the end of the day the decision lay at the descretion of individual Police forces and officers.

 

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View stuckinbristol's Profile stuckinbristol Flag In the woodwork. 09 Mar 17 1.01pm Send a Private Message to stuckinbristol Add stuckinbristol as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I have always believed it was 10% above the speed limit + 2 MPH but that this was only a guideline and at the end of the day the decision lay at the descretion of individual Police forces and officers.

My understanding is-

Typically car speedos are calibrated +10%. So if you get caught doing 33mph your speedo will be reading over 36. Police know this, and assume you thought you were breaking the limit by more than just the 3mph.

 

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chateauferret Flag 09 Mar 17 1.03pm

I have never been done, but I think getting done is as easy as getting booked for diving when blatantly tripped in the box whilst wearing a Palace shirt.

A lady I worked with was giving me a lift back to my hotel in Chester one night whilst the city was festooned with roadworks and diversions. We got lost as a result. After a little while of navigating through the side streets and trying to find our way we came out near the ring road, started going the wrong way, turned round and instead of being on the ring road we were on the A57 into the city which is where the second most lucrative speed camera in the country is situated. Since the driver thought she was on the ring road she ran past the camera before realising it wasn't that road and it went off.

I might easily have done the same had I been driving. Since this was in England the course was available; in Scotland, there is no such thing and you are stuck with £100 fine and three points.

See Pistonheads' plod and the law forum for further advice.

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