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Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Wouldn't a super league be better for us? Ideally, wouldn't we want to compete against clubs in a more or less fair setting? As long as City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, and now Newcastle, can buy all the best players, then what are we playing for? Ideally, we have one lucky season out of ten, finish in the top six, and get to play in Europe for one season? That's it?

The Premier League structure is broken in favor of the top clubs, so if they want to all F off to their own league, I'd welcome it. Good riddance. ManU can play PSG, Barcelona, and Juventus every Saturday, instead of beating up on Southampton, Bournemouth, and us.

In general, we have 7 out of 20 PL clubs with so much money, they can't be relegated. So you have 13 clubs fighting over 3 relegation spots. 3 relegation spots out of 20 clubs is reasonable, but 3 relegation spots out of 13 clubs makes no sense. At the very least, reduce the relegation spots to 2, and/or make one of the spots a playoff where the club from the PL plays the club from the Championship to determine if the Championship club gets promoted.

That would be completely unfair to sides in the Championship . The whole being of football is promotion and relegation . Its one of the reasons for opposition to this 'super league 'it being a closed shop of the richest clubs .

I do agree that the PL format needs a rejig though and with the potential of more games for european qualifyiers of which there will be more in the future (european conference league will grow ) a smaller PL is on the cards .

 


And we still need a striker

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Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Wouldn't a super league be better for us? Ideally, wouldn't we want to compete against clubs in a more or less fair setting? As long as City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, and now Newcastle, can buy all the best players, then what are we playing for? Ideally, we have one lucky season out of ten, finish in the top six, and get to play in Europe for one season? That's it?

The Premier League structure is broken in favor of the top clubs, so if they want to all F off to their own league, I'd welcome it. Good riddance. ManU can play PSG, Barcelona, and Juventus every Saturday, instead of beating up on Southampton, Bournemouth, and us.

In general, we have 7 out of 20 PL clubs with so much money, they can't be relegated. So you have 13 clubs fighting over 3 relegation spots. 3 relegation spots out of 20 clubs is reasonable, but 3 relegation spots out of 13 clubs makes no sense. At the very least, reduce the relegation spots to 2, and/or make one of the spots a playoff where the club from the PL plays the club from the Championship to determine if the Championship club gets promoted.

Hasn’t this always been the case ie 6 or 7 clubs with too much clout to go down? They may have relatively more money now but they’ve always had enough. We’ve always been 3 out of the 13.

 

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Football regulator: UK government confirms new independent body [Link]

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 23 Feb 23 8.36am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Wouldn't a super league be better for us? Ideally, wouldn't we want to compete against clubs in a more or less fair setting? As long as City, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, and now Newcastle, can buy all the best players, then what are we playing for? Ideally, we have one lucky season out of ten, finish in the top six, and get to play in Europe for one season? That's it?

The Premier League structure is broken in favor of the top clubs, so if they want to all F off to their own league, I'd welcome it. Good riddance. ManU can play PSG, Barcelona, and Juventus every Saturday, instead of beating up on Southampton, Bournemouth, and us.

In general, we have 7 out of 20 PL clubs with so much money, they can't be relegated. So you have 13 clubs fighting over 3 relegation spots. 3 relegation spots out of 20 clubs is reasonable, but 3 relegation spots out of 13 clubs makes no sense. At the very least, reduce the relegation spots to 2, and/or make one of the spots a playoff where the club from the PL plays the club from the Championship to determine if the Championship club gets promoted.

If I remember correctly from my boyhood Ladybird book 'The Story of Football', that is how promotion and relegation was decided back in the olden days before automatic promotion and relegation came in. Then, when a play-off system was reintroduced in the 1980s, they again involved a Division 1 team playing off against a Division 2 side. That worked OK until Chelsea lost the play-off to Middlesbrough and the jaunty Chelsea fans invaded the pitch to attack the Middlesbrough end with 'missiles'.

 


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Originally posted by Nicholas91

Football regulator: UK government confirms new independent body [Link]

On paper it looks a good idea let's see how it works in the real world.

 


One more point

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 Feb 23 8.59am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

On paper it looks a good idea let's see how it works in the real world.

Just about sums up my feeling Badger, hence my lack of comment previously!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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'Regulator to stop English clubs joining Super League'

End of thread.

 


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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 23 Feb 23 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by YT

'Regulator to stop English clubs joining Super League'

End of thread.

It may be the end of the thread but it won't be the end of the story .
The regulator is protecting the domestic game while EUFA will promote a European league . They will dress it up as Champions league ,Europa and Euro conference leagues but in effect it will be a European (super) league that will run alongside I would expect a much reduced Premier league with every side included in European competition

Just think we could be kicking our season off by losing 2-0 to Besiktas in a couple of years on a regular basis

 


And we still need a striker

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 24 Feb 23 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

I don't think an english regulator will be able to prevent global market forces personally. Love to be proven wrong.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 25 Feb 23 8.45am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

It may be the end of the thread but it won't be the end of the story .
The regulator is protecting the domestic game while EUFA will promote a European league . They will dress it up as Champions league ,Europa and Euro conference leagues but in effect it will be a European (super) league that will run alongside I would expect a much reduced Premier league with every side included in European competition

Just think we could be kicking our season off by losing 2-0 to Besiktas in a couple of years on a regular basis

Like in the movie 'Groundhog Day'?

 


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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I don't think an english regulator will be able to prevent global market forces personally. Love to be proven wrong.

Regulators do that all the time.

 


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TV broadcast companies bid on tournaments / packages of games that are offered to them to determine (by highest bidder) who has won the rights to show those games, the amount of money changing hands has already hit eye wateringly large amounts - I dont think the people involved in this offering / bidding process have any interest or desire in not letting it run to the max - at the moment live PL / CL soccer is the golden goose they will no doubt exploit it in all its forms to extract as much out of it as possible before it is replaced by something else -

On top of that the big teams are saying that they are what generates the most money so they should get the lions share.

Having a Government regulator in the UK is a good thing in terms of protecting the financial interests of the clubs in the footballing pyramid below the super wealthy, but if the UK is the only country within UEFA with a football regulator those most interested in protecting the golden goose will no doubt find creative ways to do so -


 

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