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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 02 Jun 23 7.51pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

He should go to Turkey. Galatasary have just won the league so he would get immediate champions league action.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 02 Jun 23 8.32pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

He should go to Turkey. Galatasary have just won the league so he would get immediate champions league action.

This could be in the Zaha thread.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Jun 23 8.07am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Everton were rumoured to be after him in the January window but we quoted a ridiculously high price

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 03 Jun 23 10.24am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

I struggle to think of a player who has played for us in the PL who has a worse first touch than JPM. Also, for a player of his size he's rubbish at heading. He'll score plenty of goals in a smaller league because he can shoot well, but I just can't see him making it as a PL striker as his technique is poor. I did see an Everton news page comparing him to DCL...I think they are going to be seriously disappointed if they think he is of the same level as DCL!

 

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waddy Flag Highton,Melbourne 04 Jun 23 9.34am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I struggle to think of a player who has played for us in the PL who has a worse first touch than JPM. Also, for a player of his size he's rubbish at heading. He'll score plenty of goals in a smaller league because he can shoot well, but I just can't see him making it as a PL striker as his technique is poor. I did see an Everton news page comparing him to DCL...I think they are going to be seriously disappointed if they think he is of the same level as DCL!

If you put that trait of lack of first touch combine it with what to do next Ie don’t fumble stumble or forget the ball vs minutes played then Ed is your award winner for this not Boom Boom

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jun 23 9.57am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I struggle to think of a player who has played for us in the PL who has a worse first touch than JPM. Also, for a player of his size he's rubbish at heading. He'll score plenty of goals in a smaller league because he can shoot well, but I just can't see him making it as a PL striker as his technique is poor. I did see an Everton news page comparing him to DCL...I think they are going to be seriously disappointed if they think he is of the same level as DCL!

A former coach of his at a French club commented that Mateta is more accomplished with his feet than with his head.
Vieira was impressed with his work ethic when the team is out of possession.

 

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View Pierre's Profile Pierre Flag Purley 04 Jun 23 10.20am Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

From what I have seen week and week out Mateta is not gifted in either department.
Nor has he a blistering pace or a fierce shot.
Cannot really see why we ever purchased him and let him loose in the Premier League, both he and Edouard have been disappointing to say the least.
JP doesn't like to harass, jostle or tussle with defenders. Never seen him win a 50/50 ball with a centre half! Let him go.

Then let us get someone in that has some skill, guile and can physically compete up front.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Jun 23 11.06am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Being quite honest about Mateta, whenever I hear his name I feel like I have Taurette syndrome and just want to say sh1t. With Edouard I just want to say lazy. That's exactly how I sum them up. I won't miss either at all. When you consider it, Aylott scored more. I know they're our players but they're not cutting it and they're a waste of space and money.

 


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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 06 Jun 23 9.48am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

I disagree with the vast majority on here. I think both OE and JPM have shown glimpses that they both can succeed at this level. JPM has never been given a run in the team. Strikers feed off confidence. Goals build confidence. With both they score and then are benched the next game. If Wilf goes then they may get more opportunities next year. I hope they stay and succeed.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jun 23 9.54am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I disagree with the vast majority on here. I think both OE and JPM have shown glimpses that they both can succeed at this level. JPM has never been given a run in the team. Strikers feed off confidence. Goals build confidence. With both they score and then are benched the next game. If Wilf goes then they may get more opportunities next year. I hope they stay and succeed.

I am somewhere in-between BE.

I think both have the ability to score goals, which is what we want, however only to a certain extent.

I also agree however that consistently switching them isn't helpful, it's almost as if we are waiting for one to just bag a hattrick then go on an amazing scoring run to say 'that's our guy'.

For me the most important thing is the declaration of 'this is how we are going to play' then sticking with the one most suited to that style. In my mind they are both nearly there however not arrived and hence why neither have cemented down the starting XI spot.

Either stick with one and make a decision or bring somebody new in, who will guarantee that starting spot, and offload one of them. Having two half-players doesn't make a whole.

Edited by Nicholas91 (06 Jun 2023 9.55am)

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 06 Jun 23 9.55am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I disagree with the vast majority on here. I think both OE and JPM have shown glimpses that they both can succeed at this level. JPM has never been given a run in the team. Strikers feed off confidence. Goals build confidence. With both they score and then are benched the next game. If Wilf goes then they may get more opportunities next year. I hope they stay and succeed.

If Roy does stay then it is unlikely JPM will get more than a few minutes here and there. Roy clearly has never rated him from day one. I kind of agree that with OE it may be more of a confidence issue as I do think he has technique and skill. I don't think JPM has either.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jun 23 9.59am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

If Roy does stay then it is unlikely JPM will get more than a few minutes here and there. Roy clearly has never rated him from day one. I kind of agree that with OE it may be more of a confidence issue as I do think he has technique and skill. I don't think JPM has either.

Again, I agree there TL but I'd argue JPM has shown a better ability to 'get on the end of things' whereas OE is more a 'drop deep and get involved in play' kind of striker.

Consistently swapping one for another depending on opponent and how the game is panning out doesn't seem to be working. For me it's similar to Clyne/Ward at RB. The same approach isn't viable long term and is only papering over a crack.

I'd rather just see a decision made and us proceeding with it to determine what action needs to be taken in the future, if any.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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