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 Stirlingsays  25 Mar 24 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Are there stats supporting that? How much (if any) comes from Christian organizations? That does happen, though in America the religious right tend to be quite strongly pro Israel. But when you check out the donor meme....it's no lie.
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| Stirlingsays 25 Mar 24 5.55pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
The protests have nothing to do with their religion. The protests are because tens of thousands of civilians are being massacred. Again, much like the protests when majority Christian Ukraine was invaded. Most people object to mass murder of women and children of any religion, funny enough. Yeah, we remember all those people on the protest marches against Christian Ukraine being invaded... Not. I think perhaps you're kind of talking about progressives who would feel strongly enough about both....and progressives are mostly middle class whites.
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cryrst  The garden of England 25 Mar 24 8.28pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
The protests have nothing to do with their religion. The protests are because tens of thousands of civilians are being massacred. Again, much like the protests when majority Christian Ukraine was invaded. Most people object to mass murder of women and children of any religion, funny enough. Why are over 75% of protesters Muslim. Coincidence ?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Mar 24 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Why are over 75% of protesters Muslim. Coincidence ? At which point did they ask the protestors for their religious beliefs?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Mar 24 10.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yeah, we remember all those people on the protest marches against Christian Ukraine being invaded... Not. I think perhaps you're kind of talking about progressives who would feel strongly enough about both....and progressives are mostly middle class whites. Yes, we do. f*** me I literally mentioned it in my post.
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| Stirlingsays 25 Mar 24 11.11pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Yes, we do. f*** me I literally mentioned it in my post. The vast majority of Muslims in the UK don't give two figs for Ukraine....Palestine sure, but not Ukraine. Are you seriously suggesting otherwise? Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Mar 2024 11.12pm)
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| cryrst The garden of England 26 Mar 24 5.43am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
At which point did they ask the protestors for their religious beliefs? Do you have eyes ?
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 26 Mar 24 7.01am |
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USA stepping back from it's support, with the UN security Council Resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire, not being vetoed. "Israel has cancelled a meeting in Washington after the US declined to veto a UN Security Council resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza." (BBC website) Way too little, far too late. Time and again, Western powers are devoid of influence in international conflict.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 26 Mar 24 10.40am |
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To what extent has Israel infiltrated the British political establishment? 80% of Tory MPs members of 'Friends of Israel'. 40% of the shadow cabinet funded by pro-Israel lobbyists. Former tory foreign minister Alan Duncan 'the Israelis think they run the Foreign Office, and they do!' A very interesting clip from Declassified UK.
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| georgenorman 26 Mar 24 10.43am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
To what extent has Israel infiltrated the British political establishment? 80% of Tory MPs members of 'Friends of Israel'. 40% of the shadow cabinet funded by pro-Israel lobbyists. Former tory foreign minister Alan Duncan 'the Israelis think they run the Foreign Office, and they do!' A very interesting clip from Declassified UK. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
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| silvertop Portishead 26 Mar 24 1.54pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Joseph Goebbels would be proud. Your opinion would carry more weight if you were able to provide evidence to debunk his comment rather than accusing any post that doesn't unconditionally support Israel as NAZI/antisemitic.
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| georgenorman 26 Mar 24 2.46pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Your opinion would carry more weight if you were able to provide evidence to debunk his comment rather than accusing any post that doesn't unconditionally support Israel as NAZI/antisemitic. The 80% figure is from 2009, don't know whether it is still accurate. However, the group is called Conservative Friends of Israel and it's purpose is to support Israel and promote Conservatism in the UK. So it is hardly surprising that is has a good number of Tory MPs as members - why shouldn't there be. Similarly, there is a Labour Friends of Israel which has a hundred or so Labour MPs as members.
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