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JRW2 Online Dulwich 04 Dec 23 3.55pm
Originally posted by Willo I do recall, perhaps in the 80s, being told that there was a rather portly referee with a Lambeg Drum paunch assigned to a Sunday League game on a park pitch. Conscious that he might attract vitriol due to his large girth, he visited the teams in the dressing-rooms and told them "Don't you dare call me a fat c..t" which drew raucous laughter from the players. Great story, Willo. That's really made me laugh.
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Dulwich 04 Dec 23 3.55pm

Originally posted by Willo

I do recall, perhaps in the 80s, being told that there was a rather portly referee with a Lambeg Drum paunch assigned to a Sunday League game on a park pitch. Conscious that he might attract vitriol due to his large girth, he visited the teams in the dressing-rooms and told them "Don't you dare call me a fat c..t" which drew raucous laughter from the players.

Great story, Willo. That's really made me laugh.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Dec 23 5.44pm
Originally posted by JRW2 To adapt the old saying about ducks, if it looks like harassment and sounds like harassment, then it's harassment. And if a policy of sin-binning for harassment is strictly applied, it'll work; if not, it won't. (And the grotesque pictures of Haaland in today's papers are hardly going to help opponents of such a measure.) [Link]
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South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Dec 23 5.44pm

Originally posted by JRW2

To adapt the old saying about ducks, if it looks like harassment and sounds like harassment, then it's harassment. And if a policy of sin-binning for harassment is strictly applied, it'll work; if not, it won't.

(And the grotesque pictures of Haaland in today's papers are hardly going to help opponents of such a measure.)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 05 Dec 23 11.59am
you would often wonder about identity politics & referees. Israel vs any Muslim team.......who to referee ? Glasgow Rangers vs Glasgow Celtic.....surely Alaister McAlaister or Paddy Murphy would be a poor choice ? an Argentine ref for any England game. Or an Israeli Ref when Germany are playing ? we can be certain that Refs in England are passionate about the game. Hence, what team to THEY support ? and is there a record of this at the FA ? Would you be happy about a Brighton fan being a referee for any of our games ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 Dec 2023 12.02pm) Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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you would often wonder about identity politics & referees.

Israel vs any Muslim team.......who to referee ?

Glasgow Rangers vs Glasgow Celtic.....surely Alaister McAlaister or Paddy Murphy would be a poor choice ?

an Argentine ref for any England game. Or an Israeli Ref when Germany are playing ?

we can be certain that Refs in England are passionate about the game. Hence, what team to THEY support ? and is there a record of this at the FA ? Would you be happy about a Brighton fan being a referee for any of our games ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 Dec 2023 12.02pm)

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Dec 23 12.53pm
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio you would often wonder about identity politics & referees. Israel vs any Muslim team.......who to referee ? Glasgow Rangers vs Glasgow Celtic.....surely Alaister McAlaister or Paddy Murphy would be a poor choice ? an Argentine ref for any England game. Or an Israeli Ref when Germany are playing ? we can be certain that Refs in England are passionate about the game. Hence, what team to THEY support ? and is there a record of this at the FA ? Would you be happy about a Brighton fan being a referee for any of our games ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 Dec 2023 12.02pm) The red highlight, when i was active as a ref, yes there was, The FA knew i supported Palace & i was never allowed to ref any Palace game no matter what age group nor even away, also i wasn't allowed to ref Brighton. I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Dec 23 12.53pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

you would often wonder about identity politics & referees.

Israel vs any Muslim team.......who to referee ?

Glasgow Rangers vs Glasgow Celtic.....surely Alaister McAlaister or Paddy Murphy would be a poor choice ?

an Argentine ref for any England game. Or an Israeli Ref when Germany are playing ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 Dec 2023 12.02pm)

The red highlight, when i was active as a ref, yes there was, The FA knew i supported Palace & i was never allowed to ref any Palace game no matter what age group nor even away, also i wasn't allowed to ref Brighton.

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Dubai Eagle 12 Dec 23 6.22am
In the Turkish Super league last night I see a ref got punched by one of the teams club president after his team conceded a 97th minute equalizer. Whilst shocking in itself, quite frankly with the amount of money & jeopardy involved in the game at the highest level its not really surprising that peoples reactions are going to become more and more extreme, it clearly all got too much for this guy & he let his emotions get the better of him.
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Dubai Eagle

12 Dec 23 6.22am

In the Turkish Super league last night I see a ref got punched by one of the teams club president after his team conceded a 97th minute equalizer.

Whilst shocking in itself, quite frankly with the amount of money & jeopardy involved in the game at the highest level its not really surprising that peoples reactions are going to become more and more extreme, it clearly all got too much for this guy & he let his emotions get the better of him.

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Elpis In a pub 12 Dec 23 6.36am
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle In the Turkish Super league last night I see a ref got punched by one of the teams club president after his team conceded a 97th minute equalizer. Whilst shocking in itself, quite frankly with the amount of money & jeopardy involved in the game at the highest level its not really surprising that peoples reactions are going to become more and more extreme, it clearly all got too much for this guy & he let his emotions get the better of him. [Link] And we still need a striker
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In a pub 12 Dec 23 6.36am

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

In the Turkish Super league last night I see a ref got punched by one of the teams club president after his team conceded a 97th minute equalizer.

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And we still need a striker

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rednblue4eva Norwood 12 Dec 23 7.58am
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle In the Turkish Super league last night I see a ref got punched by one of the teams club president after his team conceded a 97th minute equalizer. Whilst shocking in itself, quite frankly with the amount of money & jeopardy involved in the game at the highest level its not really surprising that peoples reactions are going to become more and more extreme, it clearly all got too much for this guy & he let his emotions get the better of him. And apparently several others put the boot in whilst he was on the ground
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Norwood 12 Dec 23 7.58am

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

In the Turkish Super league last night I see a ref got punched by one of the teams club president after his team conceded a 97th minute equalizer.

And apparently several others put the boot in whilst he was on the ground

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PalazioVecchio south pole 12 Dec 23 9.37am
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle the Turkish Super league it was never know for being a peaceful huggy event. Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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PalazioVecchio

south pole 12 Dec 23 9.37am

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

the Turkish Super league

it was never know for being a peaceful huggy event.

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Dec 23 4.53pm
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle In the Turkish Super league last night I see a ref got punched by one of the teams club president after his team conceded a 97th minute equalizer. Whilst shocking in itself, quite frankly with the amount of money & jeopardy involved in the game at the highest level its not really surprising that peoples reactions are going to become more and more extreme, it clearly all got too much for this guy & he let his emotions get the better of him. Madley gets around a bit doesn't he? Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Dec 23 4.53pm

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

In the Turkish Super league last night I see a ref got punched by one of the teams club president after his team conceded a 97th minute equalizer.

Madley gets around a bit doesn't he?

Red and Blue Army!

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steeleye20 Croydon 12 Dec 23 5.36pm
Here's something to warm you up on a winters' day. 'The Battle of Santiago'. Chile v Italy 1962, refereed admirably by our own Ken Aston who lived to tell the tale. [Link] Complete with 'Colemanballs'.
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steeleye20

Croydon 12 Dec 23 5.36pm

Here's something to warm you up on a winters' day.

'The Battle of Santiago'.

Chile v Italy 1962, refereed admirably by our own Ken Aston who lived to tell the tale.

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Complete with 'Colemanballs'.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Dec 23 5.41pm
Have to say/intervene. You all give Willo grief(as I have done), of his defence of Refs. Instead of targeting a poster who has his views/beliefs & has never officiated, why not ask, give grief to posters on here who HAVE refereed? Is it because you don't want/like the answer you'll get? Or is it you don't like them? Asking for a poster. I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 12 Dec 23 5.41pm

Have to say/intervene.

You all give Willo grief(as I have done), of his defence of Refs. Instead of targeting a poster who has his views/beliefs & has never officiated, why not ask, give grief to posters on here who HAVE refereed?

Is it because you don't want/like the answer you'll get? Or is it you don't like them? Asking for a poster.

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Dec 23 6.10pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Have to say/intervene. You all give Willo grief(as I have done), of his defence of Refs. Instead of targeting a poster who has his views/beliefs & has never officiated, why not ask, give grief to posters on here who HAVE refereed? Is it because you don't want/like the answer you'll get? Or is it you don't like them? Asking for a poster. I still feel robbed by Saturday and my respect level for officials is currently diminished. However, hats off to people who ref grass roots on a Sunday morning for no reward. I also used to get sent off all the time when I did play. I'm like an angry Stuart Pearce without the silky skills or hair - or any resemblance whatsoever really. So I'm probably not the best to comment. I suppose, we do have to think Premier League refs are highly paid and we could perhaps expect a bit more professionalism from them. It seems a bit of a mess currently but I do suspect new rules are causing a problem. It's all become subjective which is wholly unhelpful. A foul's a foul in reality and offside is offside. That's been getting more ambiguous the whole time - add in new handball rules and this is what you get in some ways. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Dec 23 6.10pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Have to say/intervene.

Is it because you don't want/like the answer you'll get? Or is it you don't like them? Asking for a poster.

I still feel robbed by Saturday and my respect level for officials is currently diminished.
However, hats off to people who ref grass roots on a Sunday morning for no reward. I also used to get sent off all the time when I did play. I'm like an angry Stuart Pearce without the silky skills or hair - or any resemblance whatsoever really. So I'm probably not the best to comment.
I suppose, we do have to think Premier League refs are highly paid and we could perhaps expect a bit more professionalism from them. It seems a bit of a mess currently but I do suspect new rules are causing a problem. It's all become subjective which is wholly unhelpful. A foul's a foul in reality and offside is offside. That's been getting more ambiguous the whole time - add in new handball rules and this is what you get in some ways.

Red and Blue Army!

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