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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 28 Jan 24 10.17am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

A few days ago I wanted to contact my district council to query why our waste bin hadn't been emptied. Not long ago this would have involved phoning the appropriate department to get an answer, and the process would have taken, at the most, 5 minutes or so.

However, last week it took me 30 minutes to resolve this issue. Why? Because firstly all telephone numbers have disappeared from the their website. Instead you are offered a chatbot to "talk" to. If you have ever attempted to communicate with one of these you will know they are absolutely useless at answering questions and take you round in circles.

In the end after about 10 minutes it asked me if I wanted an online chat with an actual person. Yes please! Some progress but even with that you get a 2 or 3 minute pause whilst you wait for a response to each question you send.

Eventually the agent gave me a number to call. Great, I can now talk to a fellow human being. I dialled up and was given a list of 9 different options to select from ( and you can't choose until you have listened to them all). God almighty. Anyway, I selected the appropriate number and inevitably I was informed that "we are experiencing an unusually high volume of calls" and was advised that the website might have the solution to my call. Gnashing of teeth. I rejected that offer and chose to hold. After 10 minutes waiting - yes, you've guessed it - I was cut off.

Eventually on a second attempt I got through. They very quickly answered my simple question in a matter of a minute, although I extended the call by politely venting my spleen about the hoops I had been made to jump through to get to that point.

But of course this trend is not limited to my district council. Organisations are increasingly hiding behind technology and doing their best to avoid having to talk to anyone by hiding their telephone number.And I can only see it getting worse as they justify this with phrases like.. we are streamlining our customer contact provisions to improve and streamline the needs of our customers.. bollox.

Oh, and in case you were wondering why our bin wasn't emptied
(although I don't doubt you have more pressing things on your mind), owing to very high winds we decided to leave our dustbin just inside our driveway ( but still very visible) to stop it blowing away down the street. "Sorry" they said "we cant step on to the actual property to collect a bin in case one of the operatives gets injured"

 

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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag Sittingbourne,Kent 28 Jan 24 10.39am Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Don’t get me started on virgin media, I won’t bore you with the long drawn out details, but after twenty years they treated us like s*** because we were leaving. A media company that apparently had no record of the calls we made to cancel them and we ended up giving in and paying £100 for a service we’d cancelled.

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 28 Jan 24 10.40am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

I've found you get past the chatbot more quickly if you type something like "What's the best way to kill my cat?"...

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Jan 24 11.14am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

I've found you get past the chatbot more quickly if you type something like "What's the best way to kill my cat?"...

Not displaying phone numbers is now becoming standard. I think I have found away around the chatbox.

Pick any option and keep answering negatively e.g. did this solve your problem "No".

Usually after 4 no's they will then offer you a live person.

 


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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 28 Jan 24 12.20pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

A few days ago I wanted to contact my district council to query why our waste bin hadn't been emptied. Not long ago this would have involved phoning the appropriate department to get an answer, and the process would have taken, at the most, 5 minutes or so.

However, last week it took me 30 minutes to resolve this issue. Why? Because firstly all telephone numbers have disappeared from the their website. Instead you are offered a chatbot to "talk" to. If you have ever attempted to communicate with one of these you will know they are absolutely useless at answering questions and take you round in circles.

In the end after about 10 minutes it asked me if I wanted an online chat with an actual person. Yes please! Some progress but even with that you get a 2 or 3 minute pause whilst you wait for a response to each question you send.

Eventually the agent gave me a number to call. Great, I can now talk to a fellow human being. I dialled up and was given a list of 9 different options to select from ( and you can't choose until you have listened to them all). God almighty. Anyway, I selected the appropriate number and inevitably I was informed that "we are experiencing an unusually high volume of calls" and was advised that the website might have the solution to my call. Gnashing of teeth. I rejected that offer and chose to hold. After 10 minutes waiting - yes, you've guessed it - I was cut off.

Eventually on a second attempt I got through. They very quickly answered my simple question in a matter of a minute, although I extended the call by politely venting my spleen about the hoops I had been made to jump through to get to that point.

But of course this trend is not limited to my district council. Organisations are increasingly hiding behind technology and doing their best to avoid having to talk to anyone by hiding their telephone number.And I can only see it getting worse as they justify this with phrases like.. we are streamlining our customer contact provisions to improve and streamline the needs of our customers.. bollox.

Oh, and in case you were wondering why our bin wasn't emptied
(although I don't doubt you have more pressing things on your mind), owing to very high winds we decided to leave our dustbin just inside our driveway ( but still very visible) to stop it blowing away down the street. "Sorry" they said "we cant step on to the actual property to collect a bin in case one of the operatives gets injured"

Brilliant - spot on in every detail of what has become organisations' way of keeping the pesky customer at bay. I long ago became accustomed to this from public bodies, but I was shocked to find out recently that I couldn't speak to anyone at Aviva but was confronted by the wretched chatbot, which laughably advertises that it offers "round-the-clock availability" and "the quickest route to a solution". It must have been on strike that day because it never responded at all. I bought my policy elsewhere.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 28 Jan 24 12.36pm Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Obviously there are many examples but the daftest one I remember was whilst working overseas Lloyds bank used to post my statements (yes it was that long ago) the only phone number listed on the statements was one that you had to be in the UK to dial, as I only came home couple times a year it meant that if you had a problem it took a long time to resolve, boy did I tear them a new one when I got home on the next trip, several weeks later when my next statement arrived it had a new phone number listed, one that you could actually call if you were outside the UK.

So my visit must have done some good.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Jan 24 12.43pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

all the supermarkets around me seem to be manned by anti-social d1.ckheads. And i don't even live in Brighton.

At the cash-tills, they never say please or thank you, don't look you in the eye, and often are yakking on their phone while ignoring you.

you would think its surely a deliberate ploy to corral you to the self-service machines ? except the rudeness is uniform with or without those machines installed.

Customer Service ? Customer abuse, more like.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (28 Jan 2024 12.52pm)

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 28 Jan 24 2.10pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Customer service is non-existant these days in just about every, so called, service organisation.

Well nigh impossible to find a member of staff able to help in any store or supermarket.

British Gas tops my list for poor service. I recently cancelled my service contract after endless difficulty in getting them to fix an issue with our heating system.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 28 Jan 24 2.19pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

My company just announced thousands of redundancies to move the company in AI

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 28 Jan 24 11.17pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Obviously there are many examples but the daftest one I remember was whilst working overseas Lloyds bank used to post my statements (yes it was that long ago) the only phone number listed on the statements was one that you had to be in the UK to dial, as I only came home couple times a year it meant that if you had a problem it took a long time to resolve, boy did I tear them a new one when I got home on the next trip, several weeks later when my next statement arrived it had a new phone number listed, one that you could actually call if you were outside the UK.

So my visit must have done some good.

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For those outside the UK two options

1) use 00 to get out of the country you are in, then 44 to get into UK, drop leading zero of UK number and continue dialing
2) I believe there is a website that gives equivalents for non geographical (EG 03457) for calling on a standard number.

Hope this helps.

3) give grief - as was done by our friend - to obtain a worldwide number.

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 28 Jan 24 11.20pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

British Gas tops my list for poor service. I recently cancelled my service contract after endless difficulty in getting them to fix an issue with our heating system.

Please take care - they demanded money two years running after I did not renew my contract with them. I have kept paperwork ready for an attempt this year. Used number on their demands to speak to a human being.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 29 Jan 24 6.06am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Thanks Heath Man -
It was quite a while ago so things have defo changed - the prefix arrangement wouldn't work because the phone number provided was specifically only one that could be dialled from the UK, no amount of 00 / +44 etc would change that, I know I tried at some length at the time -

The equivalent number website didn't exist back then - lol, in fact I think it was probably that episode that actually pushed me into having internet banking -

Originally posted by HeathMan

Obviously there are many examples but the daftest one I remember was whilst working overseas Lloyds bank used to post my statements (yes it was that long ago) the only phone number listed on the statements was one that you had to be in the UK to dial, as I only came home couple times a year it meant that if you had a problem it took a long time to resolve, boy did I tear them a new one when I got home on the next trip, several weeks later when my next statement arrived it had a new phone number listed, one that you could actually call if you were outside the UK.

So my visit must have done some good.

======

For those outside the UK two options

1) use 00 to get out of the country you are in, then 44 to get into UK, drop leading zero of UK number and continue dialing
2) I believe there is a website that gives equivalents for non geographical (EG 03457) for calling on a standard number.

Hope this helps.

3) give grief - as was done by our friend - to obtain a worldwide number.

 

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