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RubinsCube Wimbledon 26 Feb 24 9.36pm
I've always felt he scores similar types of goals. - slide rule passes in between opposition right back and centre half, where he runs on to the ball, and is able to cut inside or go outside. - near post finishes from crosses in open play. Maybe certain patterns of play, as well as positions, suit him. Edited by RubinsCube (26 Feb 2024 9.39pm)
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RubinsCube

Wimbledon 26 Feb 24 9.36pm

I've always felt he scores similar types of goals.

- slide rule passes in between opposition right back and centre half, where he runs on to the ball, and is able to cut inside or go outside.
- near post finishes from crosses in open play.

Maybe certain patterns of play, as well as positions, suit him.

Edited by RubinsCube (26 Feb 2024 9.39pm)

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Painter Croydon 27 Feb 24 8.09am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad If the run is made Eze will find it, but Edouard is suffering from Bentekeitis, a illness sadly there is no cure for, Symptom's include, Rigidness, facial nonunderstanding and lack of awareness He is a goal scorer having a loss of form, it happens to all strikers, he will come good. As a club, we aren’t shopping for top tier strikers, so getting a player with potential is as good as it’s going to get.
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Croydon 27 Feb 24 8.09am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

If the run is made Eze will find it, but Edouard is suffering from
Bentekeitis, a illness sadly there is no cure for, Symptom's include, Rigidness, facial nonunderstanding and lack of awareness

He is a goal scorer having a loss of form, it happens to all strikers, he will come good. As a club, we aren’t shopping for top tier strikers, so getting a player with potential is as good as it’s going to get.

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CrazyBadger Ware 27 Feb 24 10.44am
I wouldn't necessarily throw Laziness at him - there are plenty of players who's lethargic playing style have seen them had to put up with claims of Laziness.. the most recent Ozil, one of the most notable, Berbatov. The difference is that these players had the skills to go with it. I'm not sure Edouard does. He rarely finds himself in the right positions; on the end of an occasional cross, but that's about it. Seemingly never in a 1on1 with the keeper or able to make shooting room in the box and create something out of nothing. Frankly we have better personnel in the squad that offer more. Positional sense is hard to train(not impossible though), making and timing the right runs requires understanding between teammates. Even in his prolonged selection, he never had this (hence his offside count). There's a player in there somewhere, but getting the player out we need/want him to be could be difficult. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 27 Feb 24 10.44am

I wouldn't necessarily throw Laziness at him - there are plenty of players who's lethargic playing style have seen them had to put up with claims of Laziness.. the most recent Ozil, one of the most notable, Berbatov. The difference is that these players had the skills to go with it. I'm not sure Edouard does. He rarely finds himself in the right positions; on the end of an occasional cross, but that's about it. Seemingly never in a 1on1 with the keeper or able to make shooting room in the box and create something out of nothing. Frankly we have better personnel in the squad that offer more. Positional sense is hard to train(not impossible though), making and timing the right runs requires understanding between teammates. Even in his prolonged selection, he never had this (hence his offside count).

There's a player in there somewhere, but getting the player out we need/want him to be could be difficult.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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MrRobbo Purley 27 Feb 24 11.16am
Originally posted by CrazyBadger I wouldn't necessarily throw Laziness at him - there are plenty of players who's lethargic playing style have seen them had to put up with claims of Laziness.. the most recent Ozil, one of the most notable, Berbatov. The difference is that these players had the skills to go with it. I'm not sure Edouard does. He rarely finds himself in the right positions; on the end of an occasional cross, but that's about it. Seemingly never in a 1on1 with the keeper or able to make shooting room in the box and create something out of nothing. Frankly we have better personnel in the squad that offer more. Positional sense is hard to train(not impossible though), making and timing the right runs requires understanding between teammates. Even in his prolonged selection, he never had this (hence his offside count). There's a player in there somewhere, but getting the player out we need/want him to be could be difficult. Ozil and Berbatov are good examples of similar levels of energy. However they were both blessed with quite outrageous talent. IMO at Edouard's level of talent he needs to work. And sure, everyone goes though a bad patch. But if you still have a good work rate as a base, you are useful to the team. JMP is a good example of that. Even with out scoring he positively impacts the team. On sat it was his great hold up and turn that set Franca free for the pen. If Edouard doesn't score, he adds nothing.
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Purley 27 Feb 24 11.16am

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

There's a player in there somewhere, but getting the player out we need/want him to be could be difficult.

Ozil and Berbatov are good examples of similar levels of energy. However they were both blessed with quite outrageous talent.

IMO at Edouard's level of talent he needs to work. And sure, everyone goes though a bad patch. But if you still have a good work rate as a base, you are useful to the team.

JMP is a good example of that. Even with out scoring he positively impacts the team. On sat it was his great hold up and turn that set Franca free for the pen.

If Edouard doesn't score, he adds nothing.

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A89M Streatham 27 Feb 24 11.48am
He takes one too many touches to set himself when inside the box. It's a constant tap, tap, tap with his left foot before eventually being tackled or the shot being blocked. He's a defenders dream as they can position themselves perfectly. Forwards that take one touch to get it out their feet and then hit it are more likely to catch defenders, goalkeepers of guard. I will say, he has often been a catalyst for nice link up play in a few games, he works well with Eze and Mitchell down the left side. However, as many have said, his work rate is lacking. JPM's link up play is there, he shoots on sight, he works harder, he's a nuisance and bully's defenders. I struggle to see how Edouard gets back to the focal centre forward position. Edited by A89M (27 Feb 2024 11.49am)
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Streatham 27 Feb 24 11.48am

He takes one too many touches to set himself when inside the box. It's a constant tap, tap, tap with his left foot before eventually being tackled or the shot being blocked. He's a defenders dream as they can position themselves perfectly.

Forwards that take one touch to get it out their feet and then hit it are more likely to catch defenders, goalkeepers of guard.

I will say, he has often been a catalyst for nice link up play in a few games, he works well with Eze and Mitchell down the left side. However, as many have said, his work rate is lacking.

JPM's link up play is there, he shoots on sight, he works harder, he's a nuisance and bully's defenders. I struggle to see how Edouard gets back to the focal centre forward position.

Edited by A89M (27 Feb 2024 11.49am)

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PatrickA London 27 Feb 24 12.23pm
Nail on the head. He takes far too many touches whereas the best goalscorers take their shots as quickly as possible ideally with minimum back lift . I doubt too many defenders in the Premier League endure sleepless nights before facing Edouard as he’s easy to contain. Originally posted by A89M He takes one too many touches to set himself when inside the box. It's a constant tap, tap, tap with his left foot before eventually being tackled or the shot being blocked. He's a defenders dream as they can position themselves perfectly. Forwards that take one touch to get it out their feet and then hit it are more likely to catch defenders, goalkeepers of guard. I will say, he has often been a catalyst for nice link up play in a few games, he works well with Eze and Mitchell down the left side. However, as many have said, his work rate is lacking. JPM's link up play is there, he shoots on sight, he works harder, he's a nuisance and bully's defenders. I struggle to see how Edouard gets back to the focal centre forward position. Edited by A89M (27 Feb 2024 11.49am)
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PatrickA

London 27 Feb 24 12.23pm

Nail on the head.
He takes far too many touches whereas the best goalscorers take their shots as quickly as possible ideally with minimum back lift .
I doubt too many defenders in the Premier League endure sleepless nights before facing Edouard as he’s easy to contain.

Originally posted by A89M

Forwards that take one touch to get it out their feet and then hit it are more likely to catch defenders, goalkeepers of guard.

I will say, he has often been a catalyst for nice link up play in a few games, he works well with Eze and Mitchell down the left side. However, as many have said, his work rate is lacking.

JPM's link up play is there, he shoots on sight, he works harder, he's a nuisance and bully's defenders. I struggle to see how Edouard gets back to the focal centre forward position.

Edited by A89M (27 Feb 2024 11.49am)

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