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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Feb 24 11.33am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


Yes - but how is this relevant to our CB situation? Phillips is a midfielder and one who has tended to play in an advanced role in his outings in League 1 and the Scottish Prem (although since Warnock has gone there he's hardly had any minutes at Aberdeen).

Agreed & i stand corrected.

 


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Exactly the sort of solution a decent manager would have found within our squad months, if not years ago - this sort of decision will be the biggest upgrade under Glasner IMO; finding solutions within the squad as opposed to trying to fit square pegs into the same flawed system.

It's a great fit for Ward at this stage of his career - he still reads the game very well and has excellent positioning.

 

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Originally posted by eagleman13

Agreed & i stand corrected.

Sean Grehan (another Irishman) is probably the best prospect we have at centre-half, although he's barely featured since being loaned to Carlisle in January.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Feb 24 11.54am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Exactly the sort of solution a decent manager would have found within our squad months, if not years ago - this sort of decision will be the biggest upgrade under Glasner IMO; finding solutions within the squad as opposed to trying to fit square pegs into the same flawed system.

It's a great fit for Ward at this stage of his career - he still reads the game very well and has excellent positioning.

Should he be badly exposed by the pace of Son,Richarlison and Werner on Saturday, which of course is feasible, the narrative will soon change from one of positivity to negativity.

 

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Originally posted by Willo

Should he be badly exposed by the pace of Son,Richarlison and Werner on Saturday, which of course is feasible, the narrative will soon change from one of positivity to negativity.

The whole point is that playing more centrally reduces the risk of him being left isolated with the sorts of players you mention.

It doesn't suddenly make him world-class, but it provides him more protection.

If he happens to get beat by a world-class forward on Saturday, it doesn't change the fact that this role is a better fit for him at this stage of his career and nor does it change the fact he still reads the game well and has very good positioning.

 

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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Sean Grehan (another Irishman) is probably the best prospect we have at centre-half, although he's barely featured since being loaned to Carlisle in January.

Thank you EDN, he was the one i was thinking of & got the wrong person, my bad.

 


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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Sean Grehan (another Irishman) is probably the best prospect we have at centre-half, although he's barely featured since being loaned to Carlisle in January.

See your Jayden Danns (eighteen) rocking at Wembley on Sunday. He's gonna be some player.
Just shows what these kids can do if you give them their heads. Our youngsters will be coming on now they are being given a proper chance in an attacking team

Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Feb 2024 1.01pm)

 

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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

See your Jayden Danns (eighteen) rocking at Wembley on Sunday. He's gonna be some player.
Just shows what these kids can do if you give them their heads. Our youngsters will be coming on now they are being given a proper chance in an attacking team

Edited by dreamwaverider (27 Feb 2024 1.01pm)

Made me feel very old! Looks a real prospect.

Klopp is fantastic with young players - I think/hope we’ll see more of those cameos from our academy with Glasner.

 

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View dannyh's Profile dannyh Flag wherever I lay my hat....... 27 Feb 24 1.42pm Send a Private Message to dannyh Add dannyh as a friend

Guehi, Anderson, Richards.

Just becuase Wardy looked more at home against the most shockingly Sh1t team I've seen at Selhurst in recent memory does not automatically make him Paulo Maldini.

He did OK in a back3 granted, better than he has of late as a full back, however please remember the quality of the opposition he was up against, the didnt register a shot at goal until the 66th minute, such was the pattern of the game.

Im not saying ward was/is rubbish in that role, just that he was up against some proper dog tits players, and it will be wildly different against Spuds.

So for me when fit it should be Guehi Anderson Richards.

 


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Originally posted by dannyh

Guehi, Anderson, Richards.

Just becuase Wardy looked more at home against the most shockingly Sh1t team I've seen at Selhurst in recent memory does not automatically make him Paulo Maldini.

He did OK in a back3 granted, better than he has of late as a full back, however please remember the quality of the opposition he was up against, the didnt register a shot at goal until the 66th minute, such was the pattern of the game.

Im not saying ward was/is rubbish in that role, just that he was up against some proper dog tits players, and it will be wildly different against Spuds.

So for me when fit it should be Guehi Anderson Richards.

Something being argued by absolutely no one.

 

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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The whole point is that playing more centrally reduces the risk of him being left isolated with the sorts of players you mention.

It doesn't suddenly make him world-class, but it provides him more protection.

If he happens to get beat by a world-class forward on Saturday, it doesn't change the fact that this role is a better fit for him at this stage of his career and nor does it change the fact he still reads the game well and has very good positioning.

This. If he is to be caught for pace it tends to be in the first third of the game. He then works out the oppo and for the last hour beats them through guile and positioning.

We just need to ride that first half hour.

 

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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

The whole point is that playing more centrally reduces the risk of him being left isolated with the sorts of players you mention.

It doesn't suddenly make him world-class, but it provides him more protection.

If he happens to get beat by a world-class forward on Saturday, it doesn't change the fact that this role is a better fit for him at this stage of his career and nor does it change the fact he still reads the game well and has very good positioning.

I have always felt that in the twilight of his career Ward would be best suited to playing centrally rather than at full-back and entertained the possibility that he would 'Plough his furrow' in central defence at a club in the lower divisions.

Edited by Willo (27 Feb 2024 2.16pm)

 

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