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movingforward Flag 26 Jan 14 4.26pm

Forget the papers TP said he wanted to do business early in the Jan transfer window yet it has been widely reported that we have already lost a number of potential signings and so far we have only shipped OUT players Jason Banton (Plymouth, free), Jimmy Kebe (Leeds, loan) With nobody IN.

Quote from TP after spurs game...
"We put in 18 crosses - someone has to get on the end of those. We need to bring in one or two players. We know who we want - players to give us different options."


There are 3 parties involved in any transfer, Out club, In club and Player. All 3 need to agree terms.

The Out club will always want strong £'ss for player, whereas In club want pay as little as possible.
Once fee is agreed the In club can talk to the player. This is where we breakdown every time. Maybe as we offer the lowest wage payers in the league.

When taking the Palace job TP would of almost certainly demanded a Jan transfer budget and wage bracket structure for new players. So for no players to come in yet and a number of breakdowns points to either SP butting in re journey men and ageing players comments or cpfc2010 are not agreeing on the wage ceilings. Either way it would highlight TP is probably feeling a bit psisssed off with the non business.

 


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It's not just the Mirror running this story. At least three other major Sunday tabloids are running exactly the same story. People and the Sunday Sun to name two of them but I suppose people won't believe what they don't want to. Newspapers might exaggerate and sensationalise but it is not in their interests to print lies. Tends to not be good for business when the public stop buying your paper and you keep getting sued


You cannot sue on an article like this. papers copy stories. Doesn't make the 1st article true because it's been copied by 2 more. It's an easy article to create on us if you wanted in short.

nit picking if you don't mind me saying so.
If it was complete lies of course CPFC2010 could take them to court. You cannot say damaging things about someone or their business if those claims are blatant lies.


Blimey, this is naive. If you could sue over this article, the sports editors would be in court everyday, all day, that is why they don't hesitate printing a story that COULD be the case, because THERE IS logic in it.

To sue in this instance, it must be proven that not only was a false statement published, but that it was done with actual malice. As there is no statement whatsoever, it's just a situation/relationship story and even less likely to go through court.

The newspaper had to have known it was false but published it anyway, or should have known it was false. In this case, and plenty of other similar stories, that cannot be proven, and the courts wouldn't waste their time. They need to have shown disregard for the truth, or that that they didn't check, or they didn't care.

Stories like this happen all the time, just like they do with transfer speculation. And what about 'xxxx marriage on the rocks', 'x can't stand x's drinking/ angry outbursts.' The red tops are full of gossip and whispers, it's not all factual.

And on many occasions the said paper does end up paying costs, it's naive not to realise that.
All that's required is proof that it's a lie which wouldn't be hard and the victim to have enough money and determination to hold the paper to account.
The reason papers get away with it a lot is because often the victim doesn't have the resources to fight their claims. I do have some experience in this. I would respectfully suggest it is yourself that is being naive. Going off topic a bit though now


 

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Holloway writes a column for the Mirror and he's is a friend of TP , really hope this isn't true.

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Quote Joeberto at 25 Jan 2014 10.55pm

'told pals'. No quotes. Yep, smells like a pile of sh*t.


Like you, it was the first thing I picked on.

Since when does 'told pals' equate to investigative journalism?

'We spoke to sources close to tony Pullis' is a maybe....but 'told pals'? Per-lease.

It really is such an infantile way to create a story.


 

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Whilst all this goes on Kenwyn jones, Wilf and Fabio are having medicals in Cardiff. .three excellent punts that should see cardiff safe

 


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Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 4.31pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 4.13pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 3.32pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 3.22pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 3.16pm

It's not just the Mirror running this story. At least three other major Sunday tabloids are running exactly the same story. People and the Sunday Sun to name two of them but I suppose people won't believe what they don't want to. Newspapers might exaggerate and sensationalise but it is not in their interests to print lies. Tends to not be good for business when the public stop buying your paper and you keep getting sued


You cannot sue on an article like this. papers copy stories. Doesn't make the 1st article true because it's been copied by 2 more. It's an easy article to create on us if you wanted in short.

nit picking if you don't mind me saying so.
If it was complete lies of course CPFC2010 could take them to court. You cannot say damaging things about someone or their business if those claims are blatant lies.


Blimey, this is naive. If you could sue over this article, the sports editors would be in court everyday, all day, that is why they don't hesitate printing a story that COULD be the case, because THERE IS logic in it.

To sue in this instance, it must be proven that not only was a false statement published, but that it was done with actual malice. As there is no statement whatsoever, it's just a situation/relationship story and even less likely to go through court.

The newspaper had to have known it was false but published it anyway, or should have known it was false. In this case, and plenty of other similar stories, that cannot be proven, and the courts wouldn't waste their time. They need to have shown disregard for the truth, or that that they didn't check, or they didn't care.

Stories like this happen all the time, just like they do with transfer speculation. And what about 'xxxx marriage on the rocks', 'x can't stand x's drinking/ angry outbursts.' The red tops are full of gossip and whispers, it's not all factual.

And on many occasions the said paper does end up paying costs, it's naive not to realise that.
All that's required is proof that it's a lie which wouldn't be hard and the victim to have enough money and determination to hold the paper to account.
The reason papers get away with it a lot is because often the victim doesn't have the resources to fight their claims. I do have some experience in this. I would respectfully suggest it is yourself that is being naive. Going off topic a bit though now



Suing over 'telling pals he doesn't envisage working with someone in the long term.' Yeah right. There's no slander, direct quotes or factually false information. It's vague to protect itself. It may or may not be true he intends to and it may or may not be true he mentioned it to someone he knows well or just bumps into now and then. There's another 91 managers who might want to leave their jobs in the Summer, and every season plenty of stories about them maybe doing so. All of a sudden red-top papers don't want to print football stories that are not 100% true. Erm, ha ha, of course, never. And what football club is going to sue a newspaper? It's not in their interests to do so.

 


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Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 4.50pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 4.31pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 4.13pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 3.32pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 3.22pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 3.16pm

It's not just the Mirror running this story. At least three other major Sunday tabloids are running exactly the same story. People and the Sunday Sun to name two of them but I suppose people won't believe what they don't want to. Newspapers might exaggerate and sensationalise but it is not in their interests to print lies. Tends to not be good for business when the public stop buying your paper and you keep getting sued


You cannot sue on an article like this. papers copy stories. Doesn't make the 1st article true because it's been copied by 2 more. It's an easy article to create on us if you wanted in short.

nit picking if you don't mind me saying so.
If it was complete lies of course CPFC2010 could take them to court. You cannot say damaging things about someone or their business if those claims are blatant lies.


Blimey, this is naive. If you could sue over this article, the sports editors would be in court everyday, all day, that is why they don't hesitate printing a story that COULD be the case, because THERE IS logic in it.

To sue in this instance, it must be proven that not only was a false statement published, but that it was done with actual malice. As there is no statement whatsoever, it's just a situation/relationship story and even less likely to go through court.

The newspaper had to have known it was false but published it anyway, or should have known it was false. In this case, and plenty of other similar stories, that cannot be proven, and the courts wouldn't waste their time. They need to have shown disregard for the truth, or that that they didn't check, or they didn't care.

Stories like this happen all the time, just like they do with transfer speculation. And what about 'xxxx marriage on the rocks', 'x can't stand x's drinking/ angry outbursts.' The red tops are full of gossip and whispers, it's not all factual.

And on many occasions the said paper does end up paying costs, it's naive not to realise that.
All that's required is proof that it's a lie which wouldn't be hard and the victim to have enough money and determination to hold the paper to account.
The reason papers get away with it a lot is because often the victim doesn't have the resources to fight their claims. I do have some experience in this. I would respectfully suggest it is yourself that is being naive. Going off topic a bit though now



Suing over 'telling pals he doesn't envisage working with someone in the long term.' Yeah right. There's no slander, direct quotes or factually false information. It's vague to protect itself. It may or may not be true he intends to and it may or may not be true he mentioned it to someone he knows well or just bumps into now and then. There's another 91 managers who might want to leave their jobs in the Summer, and every season plenty of stories about them maybe doing so. All of a sudden red-top papers don't want to print football stories that are not 100% true. Erm, ha ha, of course, never. And what football club is going to sue a newspaper? It's not in their interests to do so.

Yeah, you know what? I've made my point. You seem the type that will argue till the cows come home whether right or wrong. Shame as some other points you've made were quite valid and interesting but on this particular point you're getting boring. Wrong too but I cant be bothered to keep going with it. As mentioned above, going off topic with this little side issue.
Just one last thing though, You think those little two inch pieces newspapers do on page six or seven where they acknowledge being wrong about a story and are happy to put the record straight that they were wrong were always done off their own bat? because they just have a vocation in life to get it right? No, that's right, its because someone has complained its not true, produced proof its not true and threatened to sue unless they retract


 

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Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 5.13pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 4.50pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 4.31pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 4.13pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 3.32pm

Quote Rudi Hedman at 26 Jan 2014 3.22pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 3.16pm

It's not just the Mirror running this story. At least three other major Sunday tabloids are running exactly the same story. People and the Sunday Sun to name two of them but I suppose people won't believe what they don't want to. Newspapers might exaggerate and sensationalise but it is not in their interests to print lies. Tends to not be good for business when the public stop buying your paper and you keep getting sued


You cannot sue on an article like this. papers copy stories. Doesn't make the 1st article true because it's been copied by 2 more. It's an easy article to create on us if you wanted in short.

nit picking if you don't mind me saying so.
If it was complete lies of course CPFC2010 could take them to court. You cannot say damaging things about someone or their business if those claims are blatant lies.


Blimey, this is naive. If you could sue over this article, the sports editors would be in court everyday, all day, that is why they don't hesitate printing a story that COULD be the case, because THERE IS logic in it.

To sue in this instance, it must be proven that not only was a false statement published, but that it was done with actual malice. As there is no statement whatsoever, it's just a situation/relationship story and even less likely to go through court.

The newspaper had to have known it was false but published it anyway, or should have known it was false. In this case, and plenty of other similar stories, that cannot be proven, and the courts wouldn't waste their time. They need to have shown disregard for the truth, or that that they didn't check, or they didn't care.

Stories like this happen all the time, just like they do with transfer speculation. And what about 'xxxx marriage on the rocks', 'x can't stand x's drinking/ angry outbursts.' The red tops are full of gossip and whispers, it's not all factual.

And on many occasions the said paper does end up paying costs, it's naive not to realise that.
All that's required is proof that it's a lie which wouldn't be hard and the victim to have enough money and determination to hold the paper to account.
The reason papers get away with it a lot is because often the victim doesn't have the resources to fight their claims. I do have some experience in this. I would respectfully suggest it is yourself that is being naive. Going off topic a bit though now



Suing over 'telling pals he doesn't envisage working with someone in the long term.' Yeah right. There's no slander, direct quotes or factually false information. It's vague to protect itself. It may or may not be true he intends to and it may or may not be true he mentioned it to someone he knows well or just bumps into now and then. There's another 91 managers who might want to leave their jobs in the Summer, and every season plenty of stories about them maybe doing so. All of a sudden red-top papers don't want to print football stories that are not 100% true. Erm, ha ha, of course, never. And what football club is going to sue a newspaper? It's not in their interests to do so.

Yeah, you know what? I've made my point. You seem the type that will argue till the cows come home whether right or wrong. Shame as some other points you've made were quite valid and interesting but on this particular point you're getting boring. Wrong too but I cant be bothered to keep going with it. As mentioned above, going off topic with this little side issue.
Just one last thing though, You think those little two inch pieces newspapers do on page six or seven where they acknowledge being wrong about a story and are happy to put the record straight that they were wrong were always done off their own bat? because they just have a vocation in life to get it right? No, that's right, its because someone has complained its not true, produced proof its not true and threatened to sue unless they retract



That is the whole point, you cannot prove this rumour true or false AND that the paper knew it was AND printed it anyway. And how many times do you see a paper retract a football rumour/story anyway?

You might see it regarding someone being described as something derogatory or having done somethingelsewhere in the paper, but not what 'might' happen in a relationship made or not made in a passing comment 'that they don't SEE THEMSELVES working for someone long-term.'

It may or may not be true. It has logic to it, and if it was in a paper which does its research that all content is correct, I'd take a lot more notice. As it's The Mirror, there's a lot of errors with lazy space filling so I'd rather see how the next 5 months go.

 


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Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 3.29pm

Love the fact fans froth at the mouth when somebody doesn't spend their own money. They act like spoilt children who demand a toy from toys r us, but are unwilling or unable to dip their hands into their own pockets.

This shows such a lack of understanding of basic commerce, economics, business ownership or simply how enterprises work as to be almost astonishing. It's literally like a five-year-old's analysis of the situation; so impoverished it doesn't even invite a sensible debate.

Actually it isn't. The sad truth is the premier league propaganda machine has left many, like yourself, lose sight of basic economics. This entire country has been sold a lie regarding borrowing and investing money that isn't there and is now facing a very harsh reality. Football somehow still blindly walks down an unsustainable model that relies solely on tv deals. If they are pulled the entire football structure in this country will fold, crash in one big heap.

The £120m tv deal, as expected resulted in player wages going up along with fees. That fans are so bloody thick to see this is quite frankly embarassing. People are allowing the transfer window, exploited by bookies, SKY and other institutions to cloud their fair judgement that they'd have had if we were still in the championship.

We are a club that needs to build sensibly. We don't have a sugar daddy running the club. We don't have billionaire owners. The sooner people recognise this the better.

Be careful what you wish for.

 


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Quote The Sash at 26 Jan 2014 4.46pm

Whilst all this goes on Kenwyn jones, Wilf and Fabio are having medicals in Cardiff. .three excellent punts that should see cardiff safe


horrible. seeing wilf in that awful jam rag of a shirt.
Feel sick.
Jones would've been good for us IMO.

as they say on fairground rides'scream if you want to go faster!'
reckon another last day game knicker wetting awaits us.
bugger.

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 6.24pm

Actually it isn't. The sad truth is the premier league propaganda machine has left many, like yourself, lose sight of basic economics.

Laddo, with the greatest respect -- and rather than fly off the handle -- I've got an advanced degree and I've been running a business worth seven figures for three years now. Hasn't gone under yet. I'm no Steve Parish, perhaps (nor is that my business goal) but this is basically rubbish. I would be very, very surprised if you have a deeper understanding of basic commerce and economics or running a company than I do, at least based on the content of your posts here. But whatever. Up to you if you want to embarrass yourself with snipes like the above.

 


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The same news appeared on my IPad app 'FTB Pro' Pulis may quit at the end of the season. But guess all these news agencies feed off of each other's information. Although I have to say that the combination of Moody, possible promises made to Pulis around strengthening the squad and no incoming players as yet, does not bode well for a possible long term future.

 

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Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 6.24pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Jan 2014 3.34pm

Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 3.29pm

Love the fact fans froth at the mouth when somebody doesn't spend their own money. They act like spoilt children who demand a toy from toys r us, but are unwilling or unable to dip their hands into their own pockets.

This shows such a lack of understanding of basic commerce, economics, business ownership or simply how enterprises work as to be almost astonishing. It's literally like a five-year-old's analysis of the situation; so impoverished it doesn't even invite a sensible debate.

Actually it isn't. The sad truth is the premier league propaganda machine has left many, like yourself, lose sight of basic economics. This entire country has been sold a lie regarding borrowing and investing money that isn't there and is now facing a very harsh reality. Football somehow still blindly walks down an unsustainable model that relies solely on tv deals. If they are pulled the entire football structure in this country will fold, crash in one big heap.

The £120m tv deal, as expected resulted in player wages going up along with fees. That fans are so bloody thick to see this is quite frankly embarassing. People are allowing the transfer window, exploited by bookies, SKY and other institutions to cloud their fair judgement that they'd have had if we were still in the championship.

We are a club that needs to build sensibly. We don't have a sugar daddy running the club. We don't have billionaire owners. The sooner people recognise this the better.

Be careful what you wish for.


Good post Laddo.

 


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