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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 14 3.46pm

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Up to him, but IMHO he has nothing to answer for, other than being silly if he descends to your level of chucking silly dirt and then demanding someone prove a negative.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2014 2.28pm)

Are you guys still rising to the baiting from Matthimself and Stirling??


It's not baiting, it is having a debate. Because our views differ from yours does not mean they constitute baiting.

The liberal thought fascism that everyone has to think alike is alarming and it's perpetrators blinkered thought police.

If anything, you kill debate on here with yer personal insults. That's not debating, that's just being a cock.

You rail against personal insults and call me a 'cock'.

Oh dear, Gusset.


No I didn't call you a cock. You just don't understand subtlety.

As for defending Hamas- who has defended Hamas? A few have said they can see why Hamas fire rockets because the blockade is not being lifted. That's not the same as condoning, that's just showing understanding of underlying causes.
Likewise some have said that Israels attacks on Gaza and the siege that they have on Palestine is wrong. That's not anti semetic. Saying Jews are w***ers is, but has anyone said that?


Gusset, it is obvious what you meant with the 'cock' reference. The fact you want to debate it is ridiculous.

Have a look back at what I have asked Kermit and then form an opinion.


I have and I have. Opinion 1. I don't think Kermit is pro Hamas and anti Israel. Has sympathy for Palestines plight does not = pro Hamas. Being against Israeli bombing of Gaza or denying Palestine basic free trade does not = anti semitic.
Opinion 2. You flounder in debate so go for the man = acting like a cock.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 14 3.54pm

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Without wishing to get caught up in the crossfire I have no sympathy for the Palestinians because they choose to support Hamas...


Did Hamas get 100% in the election?

That's like me saying anyone who is suffering due to benefit cuts only have themselves to blame because the Tories won power at the last election.

 

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Up to him, but IMHO he has nothing to answer for, other than being silly if he descends to your level of chucking silly dirt and then demanding someone prove a negative.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2014 2.28pm)

Are you guys still rising to the baiting from Matthimself and Stirling??


It's not baiting, it is having a debate. Because our views differ from yours does not mean they constitute baiting.

The liberal thought fascism that everyone has to think alike is alarming and it's perpetrators blinkered thought police.

If anything, you kill debate on here with yer personal insults. That's not debating, that's just being a cock.

You rail against personal insults and call me a 'cock'.

Oh dear, Gusset.


No I didn't call you a cock. You just don't understand subtlety.

As for defending Hamas- who has defended Hamas? A few have said they can see why Hamas fire rockets because the blockade is not being lifted. That's not the same as condoning, that's just showing understanding of underlying causes.
Likewise some have said that Israels attacks on Gaza and the siege that they have on Palestine is wrong. That's not anti semetic. Saying Jews are w***ers is, but has anyone said that?


Gusset, it is obvious what you meant with the 'cock' reference. The fact you want to debate it is ridiculous.

Have a look back at what I have asked Kermit and then form an opinion.


I have and I have. Opinion 1. I don't think Kermit is pro Hamas and anti Israel. Has sympathy for Palestines plight does not = pro Hamas. Being against Israeli bombing of Gaza or denying Palestine basic free trade does not = anti semitic.
Opinion 2. You flounder in debate so go for the man = acting like a cock.


As Sterling said, there is an undercurrent of anti Israel and anti semitic in some posts. If the same type of comments were made to the gays or Muslims, you would be up in arms, denouncing the posters 'ignorance', yet for Israel and Jewish people, it appears that different rules apply.

The rest of your post is all insults. I won't rise to it.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Hoof Hearted 18 Aug 14 4.09pm

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 3.42pm

Without wishing to get caught up in the crossfire I have no sympathy for the Palestinians because they choose to support Hamas...


Did Hamas get 100% in the election?

That's like me saying anyone who is suffering due to benefit cuts only have themselves to blame because the Tories won power at the last election.


Clearly the majority wanted them Nick.

If you recall the majority voted Blair in at the 97 election and amongst other sh1t decisions he took us into war with Iraq on the premise of WMD.

I blamed myself for not killing Blair when I had the chance.......

People on benefits should get up off their arse and support themselves anyway.......

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 14 4.13pm

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Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 2.59pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 2.56pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 2.42pm

Quote Palacetinian at 18 Aug 2014 2.37pm

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2014 2.28pm

Up to him, but IMHO he has nothing to answer for, other than being silly if he descends to your level of chucking silly dirt and then demanding someone prove a negative.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2014 2.28pm)

Are you guys still rising to the baiting from Matthimself and Stirling??


It's not baiting, it is having a debate. Because our views differ from yours does not mean they constitute baiting.

The liberal thought fascism that everyone has to think alike is alarming and it's perpetrators blinkered thought police.

If anything, you kill debate on here with yer personal insults. That's not debating, that's just being a cock.

You rail against personal insults and call me a 'cock'.

Oh dear, Gusset.


No I didn't call you a cock. You just don't understand subtlety.

As for defending Hamas- who has defended Hamas? A few have said they can see why Hamas fire rockets because the blockade is not being lifted. That's not the same as condoning, that's just showing understanding of underlying causes.
Likewise some have said that Israels attacks on Gaza and the siege that they have on Palestine is wrong. That's not anti semetic. Saying Jews are w***ers is, but has anyone said that?


Gusset, it is obvious what you meant with the 'cock' reference. The fact you want to debate it is ridiculous.

Have a look back at what I have asked Kermit and then form an opinion.


I have and I have. Opinion 1. I don't think Kermit is pro Hamas and anti Israel. Has sympathy for Palestines plight does not = pro Hamas. Being against Israeli bombing of Gaza or denying Palestine basic free trade does not = anti semitic.
Opinion 2. You flounder in debate so go for the man = acting like a cock.


As Sterling said, there is an undercurrent of anti Israel and anti semitic in some posts. If the same type of comments were made to the gays or Muslims, you would be up in arms, denouncing the posters 'ignorance', yet for Israel and Jewish people, it appears that different rules apply.

The rest of your post is all insults. I won't rise to it.


'made to the gays' shows your latent homophobia as your use of 'the' shows you wish to distance 'them' from the rest of us.

You have such an really irrational fear of anyone with differing views or outlook to you. How come?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 14 4.14pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 4.09pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 3.54pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 3.42pm

Without wishing to get caught up in the crossfire I have no sympathy for the Palestinians because they choose to support Hamas...


Did Hamas get 100% in the election?

That's like me saying anyone who is suffering due to benefit cuts only have themselves to blame because the Tories won power at the last election.


Clearly the majority wanted them Nick.

If you recall the majority voted Blair in at the 97 election and amongst other sh1t decisions he took us into war with Iraq on the premise of WMD.

I blamed myself for not killing Blair when I had the chance.......

People on benefits should get up off their arse and support themselves anyway.......

So by your logic, every single German was responsible for world war 2 because Hitler got into power.

 

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Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 3.46pm

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Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 3.15pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 2.59pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 2.56pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 2.42pm

Quote Palacetinian at 18 Aug 2014 2.37pm

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2014 2.28pm

Up to him, but IMHO he has nothing to answer for, other than being silly if he descends to your level of chucking silly dirt and then demanding someone prove a negative.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2014 2.28pm)

Are you guys still rising to the baiting from Matthimself and Stirling??


It's not baiting, it is having a debate. Because our views differ from yours does not mean they constitute baiting.

The liberal thought fascism that everyone has to think alike is alarming and it's perpetrators blinkered thought police.

If anything, you kill debate on here with yer personal insults. That's not debating, that's just being a cock.

You rail against personal insults and call me a 'cock'.

Oh dear, Gusset.


No I didn't call you a cock. You just don't understand subtlety.

As for defending Hamas- who has defended Hamas? A few have said they can see why Hamas fire rockets because the blockade is not being lifted. That's not the same as condoning, that's just showing understanding of underlying causes.
Likewise some have said that Israels attacks on Gaza and the siege that they have on Palestine is wrong. That's not anti semetic. Saying Jews are w***ers is, but has anyone said that?


Gusset, it is obvious what you meant with the 'cock' reference. The fact you want to debate it is ridiculous.

Have a look back at what I have asked Kermit and then form an opinion.


I have and I have. Opinion 1. I don't think Kermit is pro Hamas and anti Israel. Has sympathy for Palestines plight does not = pro Hamas. Being against Israeli bombing of Gaza or denying Palestine basic free trade does not = anti semitic.
Opinion 2. You flounder in debate so go for the man = acting like a cock.


As Sterling said, there is an undercurrent of anti Israel and anti semitic in some posts. If the same type of comments were made to the gays or Muslims, you would be up in arms, denouncing the posters 'ignorance', yet for Israel and Jewish people, it appears that different rules apply.

The rest of your post is all insults. I won't rise to it.


'made to the gays' shows your latent homophobia as your use of 'the' shows you wish to distance 'them' from the rest of us.

You have such an really irrational fear of anyone with differing views or outlook to you. How come?


Gusset - give it up. I was not being homophobic, I was trying to debate something and you are twisting things. Possibly because you know there is something in what I am saying about the undercurrent of posts on this thread.

 


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Hoof Hearted 18 Aug 14 4.23pm

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Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 3.54pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 3.42pm

Without wishing to get caught up in the crossfire I have no sympathy for the Palestinians because they choose to support Hamas...


Did Hamas get 100% in the election?

That's like me saying anyone who is suffering due to benefit cuts only have themselves to blame because the Tories won power at the last election.


Clearly the majority wanted them Nick.

If you recall the majority voted Blair in at the 97 election and amongst other sh1t decisions he took us into war with Iraq on the premise of WMD.

I blamed myself for not killing Blair when I had the chance.......

People on benefits should get up off their arse and support themselves anyway.......

So by your logic, every single German was responsible for world war 2 because Hitler got into power.


I'm not going to be drawn on a side issue... and certainly not drawing comparisons between Hitler/WWII and Tories/Benefit Cuts...... FFS

I've made my initial point and that is all I have to say on the matter..... how many % of Palestinians support Hamas is irrelevant, if they want peace they need to ditch them..... end of.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 14 4.28pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 4.21pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 4.13pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 4.07pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 3.46pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 3.31pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 3.15pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 2.59pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 2.56pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 2.42pm

Quote Palacetinian at 18 Aug 2014 2.37pm

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2014 2.28pm

Up to him, but IMHO he has nothing to answer for, other than being silly if he descends to your level of chucking silly dirt and then demanding someone prove a negative.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2014 2.28pm)

Are you guys still rising to the baiting from Matthimself and Stirling??


It's not baiting, it is having a debate. Because our views differ from yours does not mean they constitute baiting.

The liberal thought fascism that everyone has to think alike is alarming and it's perpetrators blinkered thought police.

If anything, you kill debate on here with yer personal insults. That's not debating, that's just being a cock.

You rail against personal insults and call me a 'cock'.

Oh dear, Gusset.


No I didn't call you a cock. You just don't understand subtlety.

As for defending Hamas- who has defended Hamas? A few have said they can see why Hamas fire rockets because the blockade is not being lifted. That's not the same as condoning, that's just showing understanding of underlying causes.
Likewise some have said that Israels attacks on Gaza and the siege that they have on Palestine is wrong. That's not anti semetic. Saying Jews are w***ers is, but has anyone said that?


Gusset, it is obvious what you meant with the 'cock' reference. The fact you want to debate it is ridiculous.

Have a look back at what I have asked Kermit and then form an opinion.


I have and I have. Opinion 1. I don't think Kermit is pro Hamas and anti Israel. Has sympathy for Palestines plight does not = pro Hamas. Being against Israeli bombing of Gaza or denying Palestine basic free trade does not = anti semitic.
Opinion 2. You flounder in debate so go for the man = acting like a cock.


As Sterling said, there is an undercurrent of anti Israel and anti semitic in some posts. If the same type of comments were made to the gays or Muslims, you would be up in arms, denouncing the posters 'ignorance', yet for Israel and Jewish people, it appears that different rules apply.

The rest of your post is all insults. I won't rise to it.


'made to the gays' shows your latent homophobia as your use of 'the' shows you wish to distance 'them' from the rest of us.

You have such an really irrational fear of anyone with differing views or outlook to you. How come?


Gusset - give it up. I was not being homophobic, I was trying to debate something and you are twisting things. Possibly because you know there is something in what I am saying about the undercurrent of posts on this thread.


Touched a nerve I see. You were not debating anything. You were using a thread to have a personal dig at a poster because they have left wing views which makes you wee with fear case the commies come and take us from our beds in the night - sorry, getting commies confused with the IDF who have a track record of doing this to children.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 14 4.29pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 4.23pm

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 4.09pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 3.54pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 3.42pm

Without wishing to get caught up in the crossfire I have no sympathy for the Palestinians because they choose to support Hamas...


Did Hamas get 100% in the election?

That's like me saying anyone who is suffering due to benefit cuts only have themselves to blame because the Tories won power at the last election.


Clearly the majority wanted them Nick.

If you recall the majority voted Blair in at the 97 election and amongst other sh1t decisions he took us into war with Iraq on the premise of WMD.

I blamed myself for not killing Blair when I had the chance.......

People on benefits should get up off their arse and support themselves anyway.......

So by your logic, every single German was responsible for world war 2 because Hitler got into power.


I'm not going to be drawn on a side issue... and certainly not drawing comparisons between Hitler/WWII and Tories/Benefit Cuts...... FFS

I've made my initial point and that is all I have to say on the matter..... how many % of Palestinians support Hamas is irrelevant, if they want peace they need to ditch them..... end of.


I am labouring the point a little. But surely you can see blaming all Palestinians for Hamas actions is a bit sweeping..

 

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Hoof Hearted 18 Aug 14 4.34pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 4.29pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 4.23pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 4.14pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 4.09pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 3.54pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 18 Aug 2014 3.42pm

Without wishing to get caught up in the crossfire I have no sympathy for the Palestinians because they choose to support Hamas...


Did Hamas get 100% in the election?

That's like me saying anyone who is suffering due to benefit cuts only have themselves to blame because the Tories won power at the last election.


Clearly the majority wanted them Nick.

If you recall the majority voted Blair in at the 97 election and amongst other sh1t decisions he took us into war with Iraq on the premise of WMD.

I blamed myself for not killing Blair when I had the chance.......

People on benefits should get up off their arse and support themselves anyway.......

So by your logic, every single German was responsible for world war 2 because Hitler got into power.


I'm not going to be drawn on a side issue... and certainly not drawing comparisons between Hitler/WWII and Tories/Benefit Cuts...... FFS

I've made my initial point and that is all I have to say on the matter..... how many % of Palestinians support Hamas is irrelevant, if they want peace they need to ditch them..... end of.


I am labouring the point a little. But surely you can see blaming all Palestinians for Hamas actions is a bit sweeping..


Blaming all Israelis for retaliating to Hamas rockets is not right either....

ENOUGH - I'm done for today, Mrs Hoof is due home and a cup of tea and a biscuit beckons.... X

 

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Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2014 2.56pm

Quote matt_himself at 18 Aug 2014 2.42pm

Quote Palacetinian at 18 Aug 2014 2.37pm

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2014 2.28pm

Up to him, but IMHO he has nothing to answer for, other than being silly if he descends to your level of chucking silly dirt and then demanding someone prove a negative.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2014 2.28pm)

Are you guys still rising to the baiting from Matthimself and Stirling??


It's not baiting, it is having a debate. Because our views differ from yours does not mean they constitute baiting.

The liberal thought fascism that everyone has to think alike is alarming and it's perpetrators blinkered thought police.

If anything, you kill debate on here with yer personal insults. That's not debating, that's just being a cock.

You rail against personal insults and call me a 'cock'.

Oh dear, Gusset.


No I didn't call you a cock. You just don't understand subtlety.

As for defending Hamas- who has defended Hamas? A few have said they can see why Hamas fire rockets because the blockade is not being lifted. That's not the same as condoning, that's just showing understanding of underlying causes.
Likewise some have said that Israels attacks on Gaza and the siege that they have on Palestine is wrong. That's not anti semetic. Saying Jews are w***ers is, but has anyone said that?


Gusset, it is obvious what you meant with the 'cock' reference. The fact you want to debate it is ridiculous.

Have a look back at what I have asked Kermit and then form an opinion.


I have and I have. Opinion 1. I don't think Kermit is pro Hamas and anti Israel. Has sympathy for Palestines plight does not = pro Hamas. Being against Israeli bombing of Gaza or denying Palestine basic free trade does not = anti semitic.
Opinion 2. You flounder in debate so go for the man = acting like a cock.


As Sterling said, there is an undercurrent of anti Israel and anti semitic in some posts. If the same type of comments were made to the gays or Muslims, you would be up in arms, denouncing the posters 'ignorance', yet for Israel and Jewish people, it appears that different rules apply.

The rest of your post is all insults. I won't rise to it.


'made to the gays' shows your latent homophobia as your use of 'the' shows you wish to distance 'them' from the rest of us.

You have such an really irrational fear of anyone with differing views or outlook to you. How come?


Gusset - give it up. I was not being homophobic, I was trying to debate something and you are twisting things. Possibly because you know there is something in what I am saying about the undercurrent of posts on this thread.


Touched a nerve I see. You were not debating anything. You were using a thread to have a personal dig at a poster because they have left wing views which makes you wee with fear case the commies come and take us from our beds in the night - sorry, getting commies confused with the IDF who have a track record of doing this to children.


I was responding to your accusation, you did not 'touch a nerve'.

I was debating something, I asked genuine questions,and as it is something that Kermit won't address, that is his issue. How you become involved in slinging your usual mud around, I don't know.

You are now using ridiculous analogies so I think this might be a good time for a time out, pause and reflection.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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