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PJH Colchester 17 Mar 14 3.38pm
Quote The Sash at 17 Mar 2014 3.08pm Quote Mapletree at 17 Mar 2014 2.12pm Nope, we picked up an away point and kept Sunderland 3 points behind. I'm happy with that plus Ince behind Murray / Jerome doesn't work. Shows how much Chamack is missed. Perhaps Pullis should try Guidlearo (misspelt) in that position for now? A good point agreed which could have been nil points had Borini been an inch lower on a couple of occassions, had we attacked a little more and created something for GM, who knows it could have been three points. Sunderland were a poor side who we didnt test defensively anywhere near enough on Saturday imho Its all well and good keeping Sunderland 3 points behind us but they have two games in hand - who is to say they wont win one or both ? There seems a huge over reliance on the HOL at the moment that others will lose games - thats a lot of chickens being counted. Fulham, WBA and Villa all picked up 3 valuable points to either stretch away, over take or creep closer to us this weekend so our draw didnt really have a huge value other than just keep our noses above water - what a win would have done is beyond measure - it would have rendered Sunderlands game in hands useless, Equalled Fulham and WBA's results to maintain that gap and with Cardiff losing cruelly (and unluckily) put clear water between us. If we are going to the likes of Sunderland determined not to lose thats great, it would be nice if we also played some football at some point that indicated we might create something and possibly score a gaol and heaven forbid win. Playing for away draws is a dangerous game as its not likley we are going to pick up wins at home --------------------------------------------------- I'm with palace chick on this one. Before the game most people would have taken the draw. Better for us than Sunderland, a long way to travel and they are fighting for their lives. If we are lucky and get an unexpected win or two, just maybe we could have games at the end of the season (19 April should be the watershed) that don't matter when we can change the menu. Right now keep on grinding out the no score bores, happy with that. If we average one point a game we will be safe, don't need 40 points this season. Fulham probably have the easiest run-in so I have a nasty feeling it will come down to the final game though, wasn't that always written in the stars? Edited by Mapletree (17 Mar 2014 2.13pm) Dont get me wrong a point I am happy with but watching the game unfold against a poor side (quote players names like Borini, Bridcutt, Johnson et al all you like - if they were playing well they wouldnt have been relegation fodder all year) we offered very very little (as we did against Southampton) and thats a worry and more criminally a wasted opportunity. Even being slightly more adventurous and testing the dodgy heart of their defence would have been something - at one point they might as well have taken Mannone off Absobloodylootly !! Defend deep away from home by all means, but we need to create at least some pressure. Isn't the best form of defence attack..? and we aint gonna score if we don't !
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Colchester 17 Mar 14 3.38pm

Quote The Sash at 17 Mar 2014 3.08pm

Quote Mapletree at 17 Mar 2014 2.12pm

Nope, we picked up an away point and kept Sunderland 3 points behind. I'm happy with that plus Ince behind Murray / Jerome doesn't work. Shows how much Chamack is missed. Perhaps Pullis should try Guidlearo (misspelt) in that position for now?

A good point agreed which could have been nil points had Borini been an inch lower on a couple of occassions, had we attacked a little more and created something for GM, who knows it could have been three points.

Sunderland were a poor side who we didnt test defensively anywhere near enough on Saturday imho

Its all well and good keeping Sunderland 3 points behind us but they have two games in hand - who is to say they wont win one or both ?

There seems a huge over reliance on the HOL at the moment that others will lose games - thats a lot of chickens being counted.

Fulham, WBA and Villa all picked up 3 valuable points to either stretch away, over take or creep closer to us this weekend so our draw didnt really have a huge value other than just keep our noses above water - what a win would have done is beyond measure - it would have rendered Sunderlands game in hands useless, Equalled Fulham and WBA's results to maintain that gap and with Cardiff losing cruelly (and unluckily) put clear water between us.

If we are going to the likes of Sunderland determined not to lose thats great, it would be nice if we also played some football at some point that indicated we might create something and possibly score a gaol and heaven forbid win.

Playing for away draws is a dangerous game as its not likley we are going to pick up wins at home

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I'm with palace chick on this one. Before the game most people would have taken the draw. Better for us than Sunderland, a long way to travel and they are fighting for their lives.

If we are lucky and get an unexpected win or two, just maybe we could have games at the end of the season (19 April should be the watershed) that don't matter when we can change the menu. Right now keep on grinding out the no score bores, happy with that. If we average one point a game we will be safe, don't need 40 points this season.

Fulham probably have the easiest run-in so I have a nasty feeling it will come down to the final game though, wasn't that always written in the stars?

Edited by Mapletree (17 Mar 2014 2.13pm)

Dont get me wrong a point I am happy with but watching the game unfold against a poor side (quote players names like Borini, Bridcutt, Johnson et al all you like - if they were playing well they wouldnt have been relegation fodder all year) we offered very very little (as we did against Southampton) and thats a worry and more criminally a wasted opportunity.

Even being slightly more adventurous and testing the dodgy heart of their defence would have been something - at one point they might as well have taken Mannone off

Absobloodylootly !! Defend deep away from home by all means, but we need to create at least some pressure. Isn't the best form of defence attack..? and we aint gonna score if we don't !

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EastEndPalace WithHardNutsCosImAHardBastard 17 Mar 14 3.39pm
Quote fledgling at 17 Mar 2014 2.09pm But yesterday we should have played for the 3 points ..and got the 3 points.... No excuse ..We dropped 2 points ... People really need to manage their expectations. We played a relegation rival at their place and came away with a point after playing poorly. Borini, Johnson, Fletcher, Bridcutt, Bardsley and Brown would walk into our first team. Why would you expect to turn them over? They have a poor home record, we're poor away. We kept a 3 point buffer against 18th and keep in touch with the 5 teams above us. Cast your mind back a few years to the last time we were in this situation in the Championship when Paul Hart saved us from the drop playing exactly the same way and getting exactly the same criticism. It'll go to the wire but we'd be down far sooner should we change our style now. Another thing worth noting Dowie was on the verge of keeping us up then some supporters started moaning about the style of play, he buckled under the pressure from the fans and we were relegated. At least we know Pulis wont let the fans tell him what to do. That is why he is a proven premier league manager and not a poster on the HOL.
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Quote fledgling at 17 Mar 2014 2.09pm

But yesterday we should have played for the 3 points ..and got the 3 points.... No excuse ..We dropped 2 points ...

People really need to manage their expectations. We played a relegation rival at their place and came away with a point after playing poorly. Borini, Johnson, Fletcher, Bridcutt, Bardsley and Brown would walk into our first team. Why would you expect to turn them over? They have a poor home record, we're poor away. We kept a 3 point buffer against 18th and keep in touch with the 5 teams above us.

Cast your mind back a few years to the last time we were in this situation in the Championship when Paul Hart saved us from the drop playing exactly the same way and getting exactly the same criticism. It'll go to the wire but we'd be down far sooner should we change our style now.

Another thing worth noting Dowie was on the verge of keeping us up then some supporters started moaning about the style of play, he buckled under the pressure from the fans and we were relegated. At least we know Pulis wont let the fans tell him what to do. That is why he is a proven premier league manager and not a poster on the HOL.

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Dangermouse Hastings 17 Mar 14 6.33pm
Quote fledgling at 17 Mar 2014 2.09pm But yesterday we should have played for the 3 points ..and got the 3 points.... No excuse ..We dropped 2 points ... People really need to manage their expectations. We played a relegation rival at their place and came away with a point after playing poorly. Borini, Johnson, Fletcher, Bridcutt, Bardsley and Brown would walk into our first team. Why would you expect to turn them over? They have a poor home record, we're poor away. We kept a 3 point buffer against 18th and keep in touch with the 5 teams above us. Cast your mind back a few years to the last time we were in this situation in the Championship when Paul Hart saved us from the drop playing exactly the same way and getting exactly the same criticism. It'll go to the wire but we'd be down far sooner should we change our style now. Surely, Speroni, Ward, Dann, Jedi (back on form), Chamakh and Ledley would walk into theirs? Don't agree that they are stronger than us, Man Utd, Southampton, Swansea and here were all games we could of got points from, in my opinion, yet we played this negative style against all of them. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Quote fledgling at 17 Mar 2014 2.09pm

But yesterday we should have played for the 3 points ..and got the 3 points.... No excuse ..We dropped 2 points ...

Surely, Speroni, Ward, Dann, Jedi (back on form), Chamakh and Ledley would walk into theirs?
Don't agree that they are stronger than us, Man Utd, Southampton, Swansea and here were all games we could of got points from, in my opinion, yet we played this negative style against all of them.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Boooo 18 Mar 14 7.32pm
£66k a game. Nice. I refuse to believe there are that many people out there that can't spell. Too f**king lazy, that's what I think.
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18 Mar 14 7.32pm

£66k a game. Nice.

I refuse to believe there are that many people out there that can't spell. Too f**king lazy, that's what I think.

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