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Greens = tax

If you want a high tax economy vote green

Tax = Public Services.

If you want decent services, raise tax.


It's a proven fact low tax economies raise more tax overall.

Is it? Prove it then. Let's see your facts.


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Thanks for flagging this article but it doesn't actually support the argument that low tax raises more tax overall. It was just an article answering that that question.

Also it is important to distinguish between direct and indirect tax. The low direct tax is supported by shifting the burden of tax to poorer/ordinary people via higher VAT/indirect Tax. Thatcher and the Cameron both put up Vat while lowering elements of income tax.

 

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View Johnny Eagles's Profile Johnny Eagles Flag berlin 14 Jan 15 6.00pm Send a Private Message to Johnny Eagles Add Johnny Eagles as a friend

I'm admittedly not a fan of the Tories at the best of times. But listening to their weasely spokesperson bang on about the Greens, as though there is any other reason for them snivelling out of the TV debates than that they're terrified their grubby little hands will be prised off their ministerial boxes, is absolutely pathetic.

 


...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Jan 15 6.03pm

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Green's membership to overtake that of UKIP.

 

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Quote nickgusset at 14 Jan 2015 6.03pm

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Green's membership to overtake that of UKIP.


Membership and votes are not the same thing.
Not that I give a s***e either way.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Jan 15 6.11pm

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Green's membership to overtake that of UKIP.


Membership and votes are not the same thing.
Not that I give a s***e either way.


If the greens have a higher membership, then surely they have more right to be in a leaders debate than UKIP.

 

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View Johnny Eagles's Profile Johnny Eagles Flag berlin 14 Jan 15 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Johnny Eagles Add Johnny Eagles as a friend

If it wasn't this, Cameron would have found another fig leaf to use as an excuse.

It's just the bare-faced LIES which annoy me. Any other job you'd get punished. Politicians just tell outright lies and get away with it.

 


...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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Green's membership to overtake that of UKIP.


Membership and votes are not the same thing.
Not that I give a s***e either way.


If the greens have a higher membership, then surely they have more right to be in a leaders debate than UKIP.

Sorry but no.
As above, ''Membership and votes are not the same thing''.
In all my years I've only met 1 person who's voted for the Green Party, my best mates brother (lovely fella btw). Personally I believe they need to change the name if they ever want to attract more voters. What do they actually stand for apart from the obvious?
They've missed a trick imo. They should've called themselves UKIP/similar a while ago and then do a complete turnaround should they ever get into power, just like all the others always have/will constantly do. They're a well meaning bunch but the marketing department is beyond dumb.


 

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Quote Johnny Eagles at 14 Jan 2015 6.13pm

If it wasn't this, Cameron would have found another fig leaf to use as an excuse.

It's just the bare-faced LIES which annoy me. Any other job you'd get punished. Politicians just tell outright lies and get away with it.

This^.............is why I stopped voting a long time ago.
Unfortunately it'll never change.

 

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Quote nickgusset at 14 Jan 2015 6.11pm

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Green's membership to overtake that of UKIP.


Membership and votes are not the same thing.
Not that I give a s***e either way.


If the greens have a higher membership, then surely they have more right to be in a leaders debate than UKIP.


Membership numbers, of any party, are completely irrelevant other than for raising funds.

 


Optimistic as ever

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Quote Johnny Eagles at 14 Jan 2015 6.13pm

If it wasn't this, Cameron would have found another fig leaf to use as an excuse.

It's just the bare-faced LIES which annoy me. Any other job you'd get punished. Politicians just tell outright lies and get away with it.


Why do you think the broadcasters or the other party leaders have a right to demand the PM do anything? He's not obliged to and neither are these debates A) Historical or B) Worthwhile.

What's he going to be punished for? Stating his opinion or terms?

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Optimistic as ever

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Jan 15 7.07pm

Sure that Dave the cund said theses debates were very important before the last election.

 

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Quote nickgusset at 14 Jan 2015 7.07pm

Sure that Dave the cund said theses debates were very important before the last election.

Debates with those who matter to the majority of the electorate are important.
The Greens just don't happen to meet this criteria.

 

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