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Quote Part Time James at 08 Jan 2015 12.05pm

The BBC have gone with "Oldham drop bid to sign rapist Evans", like "rapist" is his new first name.

I reckon it won't be long before he gives up trying to get into a team. Unless Millwall are interested?


You obviously don't remember what happened when Lee Hughes went down to The Den with Oldham.

 


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Quote Part Time James at 08 Jan 2015 12.05pm

The BBC have gone with "Oldham drop bid to sign rapist Evans", like "rapist" is his new first name.

I reckon it won't be long before he gives up trying to get into a team. Unless Millwall are interested?

I didn't want him playing football again. I didn't want to see him officially banned though.

But the Oldham board member saying they received threats actually makes me want him to be able to play again just to fcuk off the sort of $hits that would do that

Depends what the threats were. If the threats were "we'll withdraw thousands of pounds of sponsorship" then fair enough. If they were of a violent nature....not so much.

Implies it was both

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Oldham Athletic have decided against signing convicted rapist Ched Evans following threats to the club's "staff and their families".

A board member told BBC sports editor Dan Roan the decision was also taken because of "enormous pressure from sponsors".


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Doesn't change my thoughts that I wouldn't welcome him at Palace. Just makes me think there are some other horrible people that have exposed themselves.

 




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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 08 Jan 15 12.41pm

Quote Part Time James at 08 Jan 2015 12.05pm

The BBC have gone with "Oldham drop bid to sign rapist Evans", like "rapist" is his new first name.

I reckon it won't be long before he gives up trying to get into a team. Unless Millwall are interested?

Friend of mine, his surname is Raper. Which is quite an unfortunate surname.


 


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When he has finished serving his sentence he can go and work abroad, so all is well. Only two and a half years to go.

Meanwhile, just an idea, maybe he would like to discourage people from harassing the woman involved in the case. That would not be an admittance of guilt. And maybe also try getting involved in other good deeds.

Or perhaps he is just a nasty, angry, selfish young man who wants to punish others for his mistakes in life.

 

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Quote Part Time James at 08 Jan 2015 12.05pm

The BBC have gone with "Oldham drop bid to sign rapist Evans", like "rapist" is his new first name.

I reckon it won't be long before he gives up trying to get into a team. Unless Millwall are interested?


You obviously don't remember what happened when Lee Hughes went down to The Den with Oldham.


Because he was an opposition player probably.

 




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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 08 Jan 15 12.44pm

Quote JohnB at 08 Jan 2015 9.48am

I would also hazard a bet that of all the people that have signed the petition to stop Evans playing for the relevant clubs, 90% of them milked themselves senseless over Tysons role in the Hangover movies despite being a convicted rapist....and biting a mans ear off.

He's s**t in those movies. I doubt anyone was that excited about seeing Mike Tyson in those movies. I only knew who he was because they said his name.

I'd rather be known as a rapist, than that bloke who was in the hangover 3.


 


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Quote Mapletree at 08 Jan 2015 12.41pm

When he has finished serving his sentence he can go and work abroad, so all is well. Only two and a half years to go.

Meanwhile, just an idea, maybe he would like to discourage people from harassing the woman involved in the case. That would not be an admittance of guilt. And maybe also try getting involved in other good deeds.

Or perhaps he is just a nasty, angry, selfish young man who wants to punish others for his mistakes in life.

Only with home office approval, as he's a registered sex offender.


 


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He does'nt deserve to play football and i'm glad the deal is off,as i said before Evans victim is serving a life sentence and she's not even in prison.

 

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 08 Jan 2015 12.45pm

Quote Mapletree at 08 Jan 2015 12.41pm

When he has finished serving his sentence he can go and work abroad, so all is well. Only two and a half years to go.

Meanwhile, just an idea, maybe he would like to discourage people from harassing the woman involved in the case. That would not be an admittance of guilt. And maybe also try getting involved in other good deeds.

Or perhaps he is just a nasty, angry, selfish young man who wants to punish others for his mistakes in life.

Only with home office approval, as he's a registered sex offender.


Surely there's a expiry date on that?

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 08 Jan 15 1.14pm

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Quote Mapletree at 08 Jan 2015 12.41pm

When he has finished serving his sentence he can go and work abroad, so all is well. Only two and a half years to go.

Meanwhile, just an idea, maybe he would like to discourage people from harassing the woman involved in the case. That would not be an admittance of guilt. And maybe also try getting involved in other good deeds.

Or perhaps he is just a nasty, angry, selfish young man who wants to punish others for his mistakes in life.

Only with home office approval, as he's a registered sex offender.


Surely there's a expiry date on that?

None, plus offences committed overseas can be tried in the UK. As long as you're on the Sex Offenders Register you are restricted in terms of travel permission (initially it was brought in to prosecute and prevent people travelling overseas to engage in child sex, but it applies to all sex offenders).

If you were sentenced to more than 2 years (I think) you go on the nonse jotter for life, or until the Home Secretary says otherwise.

Plus not many countries are too keen on issuing working permits and visas to convicted rapists.

 


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Quote JohnB at 08 Jan 2015 8.20am

Based on a lot of the posts in here deeming rape as girl gets drunk, stumbles, does a sick, gives a BJ and has a dirty wet put in her, I reckon there must be about 50 rapes a day in the summer months in just Ibiza, Magaluf and Malia alone.

I'm not saying he did or didn't rape her, I just think a lot of people are very quick to say he did with a real matter of fact attitude and then back it up with 'he was convicted'. There are a hell of a lot of wrong convictions, it's not unthinkable to think this may be one of them and the reason he shows little remorse is he is adamant he took part in consensual sex, whether his way of doing it was exceptionally sleazy or not.

It's not unthinkable. But where is the new evidence? I though Gerrard was a tad lucky to get away with the assault charge but in the eyes of the law he's not guilty. Without any new evidence nothing will change and nor should it. We live in jury based evidential system and the appeal system has said his conviction is safe. His latest attempt has about as much chance as any of us have of jumping liz hurley and her saying yes that was great.


That's why I think it's a bit naive to state "he's a rapist because the jury says so", because things change - if this case review decides there's scope for a retrial and he's then acquitted, what then "he's innocent because the jury says so"? Then where are we, an innocent man has been denied his liberty and subsequently his right to work.

I'm happy to say, as it stands, he's a convicted rapist, and treat him accordingly, but I'm afraid I can't be as certain of his guilt as some on here. It's like saying those scumbags who murdered Stephen Lawrence are all innocent (aside from the two currently inside) because a jury said so. I assume most people agree there's a good chance that they are guilty, even if it's not been proven sufficiently.

Not sure I'm making my point very well. I think I'm saying I agree that he should be treated as guilty or innocent based on his current legal status through the court system so as it stands today Evans is a rapist, but not necessarily that I will agree that that conviction/acquittal was correct (which makes you look a bit of a muppet when/if convictions are overturned)

If it gets changed...then my position will change. He's guilty in the eyes of the law or not guilty in the eyes of the law. This is not the same as he did it or he is innocent. Ergo no feelings of being a muppet if it gets overturned!

 

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He's apologised but still denied rape.

How classy of those who oppose his signing to threaten the director's daughter with rape...

 


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