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derben 11 May 15 10.05pm
Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 9.55pm Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 8.10pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 7.18pm Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. Priceless response Why!! I think it's a decent enough response. Surely the clues in the name of the Party. You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response? Lolz. Lolz.......how old are you,and a teacher as well. You know that is not what he was saying, he means that if you think the SNP are not after independence then you must be off your head. And you make all sorts of comparisons between the tories/UKIP and the Nazis. But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok. And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left. I'm trying to work out how the invasion of Poland alludes to Scotland's situation. Does Murdoch want Scottish independence? He was right behind the SNP in Scotland. As you no doubt know, I was merely illustrating how something that is not implicitly stated in a manifesto is still a key aim. You implied that the SNP did not campaign for independence in the election so people voted for them because of their so called anti-austerity stance. Opinion seemed to be divided, you do not think their main aim is Scottish independence, the rest of the world does.
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The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either.

Priceless response

Why!! I think it's a decent enough response.
Surely the clues in the name of the Party.

You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response?

Lolz.

Lolz.......how old are you,and a teacher as well.
You know that is not what he was saying, he means that if you think the SNP are not after independence then you must be off your head.
And you make all sorts of comparisons between the tories/UKIP and the Nazis.

But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok.
And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left.

I'm trying to work out how the invasion of Poland alludes to Scotland's situation.

Does Murdoch want Scottish independence? He was right behind the SNP in Scotland.

As you no doubt know, I was merely illustrating how something that is not implicitly stated in a manifesto is still a key aim. You implied that the SNP did not campaign for independence in the election so people voted for them because of their so called anti-austerity stance. Opinion seemed to be divided, you do not think their main aim is Scottish independence, the rest of the world does.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 May 15 10.32pm
Quote derben at 11 May 2015 10.05pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 9.55pm Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 8.10pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 7.18pm Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. Priceless response Why!! I think it's a decent enough response. Surely the clues in the name of the Party. You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response? Lolz. Lolz.......how old are you,and a teacher as well. You know that is not what he was saying, he means that if you think the SNP are not after independence then you must be off your head. And you make all sorts of comparisons between the tories/UKIP and the Nazis. But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok. And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left. I'm trying to work out how the invasion of Poland alludes to Scotland's situation. Does Murdoch want Scottish independence? He was right behind the SNP in Scotland. As you no doubt know, I was merely illustrating how something that is not implicitly stated in a manifesto is still a key aim. You implied that the SNP did not campaign for independence in the election so people voted for them because of their so called anti-austerity stance. Opinion seemed to be divided, you do not think their main aim is Scottish independence, the rest of the world does. Ultimately that's probably an aim, and dare I say the Tories would have a greater grip of power of our parliament if the Scots are taken out of the equation. What you can't bear is an anti austerity party doing so well.
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The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

Priceless response

Why!! I think it's a decent enough response.
Surely the clues in the name of the Party.

You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response?

Lolz.

But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok.
And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left.

I'm trying to work out how the invasion of Poland alludes to Scotland's situation.

Does Murdoch want Scottish independence? He was right behind the SNP in Scotland.

Ultimately that's probably an aim, and dare I say the Tories would have a greater grip of power of our parliament if the Scots are taken out of the equation.

What you can't bear is an anti austerity party doing so well.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 11 May 15 10.42pm
Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. GODWIN. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

GODWIN.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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derben 12 May 15 7.27am
Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 10.32pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 10.05pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 9.55pm Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 8.10pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 7.18pm Quote elgrande at 11 May 2015 6.11pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 5.59pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. Priceless response Why!! I think it's a decent enough response. Surely the clues in the name of the Party. You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response? Lolz. Lolz.......how old are you,and a teacher as well. You know that is not what he was saying, he means that if you think the SNP are not after independence then you must be off your head. And you make all sorts of comparisons between the tories/UKIP and the Nazis. But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok. And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left. I'm trying to work out how the invasion of Poland alludes to Scotland's situation. Does Murdoch want Scottish independence? He was right behind the SNP in Scotland. As you no doubt know, I was merely illustrating how something that is not implicitly stated in a manifesto is still a key aim. You implied that the SNP did not campaign for independence in the election so people voted for them because of their so called anti-austerity stance. Opinion seemed to be divided, you do not think their main aim is Scottish independence, the rest of the world does. Ultimately that's probably an aim, and dare I say the Tories would have a greater grip of power of our parliament if the Scots are taken out of the equation. What you can't bear is an anti austerity party doing so well. LOL
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12 May 15 7.27am

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The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

Priceless response

Why!! I think it's a decent enough response.
Surely the clues in the name of the Party.

You seriously think comparing the SNP to nazis is a decent enough response?

Lolz.

But because it's you and your leftie mates doing it it's ok.
And you wonder why the British public don't trust the left.

I'm trying to work out how the invasion of Poland alludes to Scotland's situation.

Does Murdoch want Scottish independence? He was right behind the SNP in Scotland.

Ultimately that's probably an aim, and dare I say the Tories would have a greater grip of power of our parliament if the Scots are taken out of the equation.

What you can't bear is an anti austerity party doing so well.

LOL

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derben 12 May 15 7.29am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 May 2015 10.42pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. GODWIN. The Saxon Earl of Wessex?
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The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

GODWIN.

The Saxon Earl of Wessex?

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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 May 15 9.31am
Quote derben at 12 May 2015 7.29am Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 May 2015 10.42pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. GODWIN. The Saxon Earl of Wessex? Godwin's law [Link] "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm

Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

GODWIN.

The Saxon Earl of Wessex?

Godwin's law [Link]

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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Hoof Hearted 12 May 15 10.44am
Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.36pm Quote johnno42000 at 11 May 2015 4.33pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 May 2015 4.28pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote. They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share! Tbf it would have been quite difficult for them to have done much better. Of course Hoof is being facetious. He knows that to gain 55 or whatever seats when contesting around 60 seats is by far the most successful showing by any party. I am not being facetious! Scottish people should remember this. They are less than 8% of the UK population. Last year they voted amongst themselves to remain part of the UK. The UK is a democracy that they are a part of.... 56 seats entitles them to no more of a say in running our country than Labour or Conservative and parliamentary votes will reflect this on important issues. Nicola Sturgeon can bleat all she likes but she is duty bound to accept what Westminster determines.
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Hoof Hearted 12 May 15 10.44am

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The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote.

They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share!

Tbf it would have been quite difficult for them to have done much better.

Of course Hoof is being facetious. He knows that to gain 55 or whatever seats when contesting around 60 seats is by far the most successful showing by any party.

I am not being facetious!

Scottish people should remember this.

They are less than 8% of the UK population.

Last year they voted amongst themselves to remain part of the UK.

The UK is a democracy that they are a part of.... 56 seats entitles them to no more of a say in running our country than Labour or Conservative and parliamentary votes will reflect this on important issues.

Nicola Sturgeon can bleat all she likes but she is duty bound to accept what Westminster determines.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 12 May 15 10.51am
Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 May 2015 10.44am Nicola Sturgeon can bleat all she likes but she is duty bound to accept what Westminster determines. This woman hates the Tories and she will prove a thorn in their sides throughout the term in office.She will have nothing positive to say about them at all and I await the stream of anti-Tory rhetoric. Can see a very frosty relationship between her and Cameron.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 12 May 15 10.51am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 May 2015 10.44am

Nicola Sturgeon can bleat all she likes but she is duty bound to accept what Westminster determines.

This woman hates the Tories and she will prove a thorn in their sides throughout the term in office.She will have nothing positive to say about them at all and I await the stream of anti-Tory rhetoric. Can see a very frosty relationship between her and Cameron.

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derben 12 May 15 11.37am
Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 May 2015 9.31am Quote derben at 12 May 2015 7.29am Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 May 2015 10.42pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. GODWIN. The Saxon Earl of Wessex? Godwin's law [Link] I like the link - very true I think. In my case, as the SNP are both socialist and nationalist in outlook, calling them National Socialist was an attempt (a weak one I know) at a joke. I of course accept that the SNP are not Nazis in any way.
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The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

GODWIN.

The Saxon Earl of Wessex?

Godwin's law [Link]

I like the link - very true I think.
In my case, as the SNP are both socialist and nationalist in outlook, calling them National Socialist was an attempt (a weak one I know) at a joke. I of course accept that the SNP are not Nazis in any way.

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Stuk Top half 12 May 15 3.26pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 May 2015 10.44am Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.36pm Quote johnno42000 at 11 May 2015 4.33pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 11 May 2015 4.28pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote. They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share! Tbf it would have been quite difficult for them to have done much better. Of course Hoof is being facetious. He knows that to gain 55 or whatever seats when contesting around 60 seats is by far the most successful showing by any party. I am not being facetious! Scottish people should remember this. They are less than 8% of the UK population. Last year they voted amongst themselves to remain part of the UK. The UK is a democracy that they are a part of.... 56 seats entitles them to no more of a say in running our country than Labour or Conservative and parliamentary votes will reflect this on important issues. Nicola Sturgeon can bleat all she likes but she is duty bound to accept what Westminster determines. Carp. She's a fish not a sheep. Optimistic as ever
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Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm

The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

The SNP weren't the most successful party in terms of seats or share of vote.

They were 3rd in number of seats and 6th in vote share!

Tbf it would have been quite difficult for them to have done much better.

Of course Hoof is being facetious. He knows that to gain 55 or whatever seats when contesting around 60 seats is by far the most successful showing by any party.

I am not being facetious!

Scottish people should remember this.

They are less than 8% of the UK population.

Last year they voted amongst themselves to remain part of the UK.

Nicola Sturgeon can bleat all she likes but she is duty bound to accept what Westminster determines.

Carp. She's a fish not a sheep.

Optimistic as ever

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 12 May 15 4.22pm
Quote Willo at 12 May 2015 10.51am Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 May 2015 10.44am Nicola Sturgeon can bleat all she likes but she is duty bound to accept what Westminster determines. This woman hates the Tories and she will prove a thorn in their sides throughout the term in office.She will have nothing positive to say about them at all and I await the stream of anti-Tory rhetoric. Can see a very frosty relationship between her and Cameron. I can see her getting shot down more than once in the coming weeks until she realises she is not so powerful down this neck of the woods as she is up there in Jockland....She will learn the hard way especially if the government give her ALL the tax rights she craves in Scotland and let her run it on her own away!!. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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Quote Willo at 12 May 2015 10.51am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 May 2015 10.44am

Nicola Sturgeon can bleat all she likes but she is duty bound to accept what Westminster determines.

This woman hates the Tories and she will prove a thorn in their sides throughout the term in office.She will have nothing positive to say about them at all and I await the stream of anti-Tory rhetoric. Can see a very frosty relationship between her and Cameron.

I can see her getting shot down more than once in the coming weeks until she realises she is not so powerful down this neck of the woods as she is up there in Jockland....She will learn the hard way especially if the government give her ALL the tax rights she craves in Scotland and let her run it on her own away!!.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Quote derben at 12 May 2015 11.37am Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 May 2015 9.31am Quote derben at 12 May 2015 7.29am Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 May 2015 10.42pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.37pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.31pm Quote derben at 11 May 2015 4.22pm Quote nickgusset at 11 May 2015 4.21pm The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite. I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years. The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why? Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist? Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm) Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time. The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto. Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP. You are seriously implying that the SNP does not want independence for Scotland? That other National Socialist party didn't have "we intend to invade Poland at the first opportunity" in their 1933 manifesto either. GODWIN. The Saxon Earl of Wessex? Godwin's law [Link] I like the link - very true I think. In my case, as the SNP are both socialist and nationalist in outlook, calling them National Socialist was an attempt (a weak one I know) at a joke. I of course accept that the SNP are not Nazis in any way. Nazis were anti-smoking, vegetarian promoting, teetotaler pushing outdoors types that believed in social unity through the national self. Can't see that going down well North of the Border, where the hobbies are smack, domestic violence, buckfast, deep fried meat (anything) and drinking till your liver gives out, whilst fighting with your neighbours about which religious sectarianist football team you support. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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The media are saying labour need to move central to win more votes. The media would love labour to get even more Tory lite.

I'd love labour to move left. People will be (even more) sick of cuts and poverty in 5 years.

The most successful party fought an anti austerity campaign and nearly swept the boards. I wonder why?

Could it be something to do with Scottish Nationalism? Perhaps they should rename themselves National Socialist?

Edited by derben (11 May 2015 4.23pm)

Interestingly the SNP have been right and left wing in their time.

The question of Scottish devolution didn't form part of their manifesto.

Many who voted no in the referendum voted SNP.

GODWIN.

The Saxon Earl of Wessex?

Godwin's law [Link]

Nazis were anti-smoking, vegetarian promoting, teetotaler pushing outdoors types that believed in social unity through the national self.

Can't see that going down well North of the Border, where the hobbies are smack, domestic violence, buckfast, deep fried meat (anything) and drinking till your liver gives out, whilst fighting with your neighbours about which religious sectarianist football team you support.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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