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chris123 hove actually 05 Apr 15 7.51pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.39pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.21pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.06pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 6.01pm Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s***ty parenting. Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening. This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect. Really? Do you think people do this deliberately? As such, teachers are required to report this sort of thing and they do. However, are you expecting children to be taken away from their families because the family have to choose between food or clothes. Next you'll be proposing we bring back workhouses. Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree. I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect? People are too quick to judge. I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder.
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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm

Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s***ty parenting.

Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening.

This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect.

Really? Do you think people do this deliberately?
As such, teachers are required to report this sort of thing and they do. However, are you expecting children to be taken away from their families because the family have to choose between food or clothes.
Next you'll be proposing we bring back workhouses.

Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree.

I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect?
People are too quick to judge.

I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 15 8.20pm
Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.51pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.39pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.21pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.06pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 6.01pm Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s***ty parenting. Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening. This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect. Really? Do you think people do this deliberately? As such, teachers are required to report this sort of thing and they do. However, are you expecting children to be taken away from their families because the family have to choose between food or clothes. Next you'll be proposing we bring back workhouses. Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree. I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect? People are too quick to judge. I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder. And some people genuinely struggle to get by financially. Do you dispute this? Or do you think it's made up?
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Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 15 8.20pm

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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm

Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s***ty parenting.

Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening.

This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect.

Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree.

I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect?
People are too quick to judge.

I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder.

And some people genuinely struggle to get by financially. Do you dispute this? Or do you think it's made up?

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 05 Apr 15 8.29pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 8.20pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.51pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.39pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.21pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.06pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 6.01pm Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s**ty parenting. Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening. This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect. Really? Do you think people do this deliberately? As such, teachers are required to report this sort of thing and they do. However, are you expecting children to be taken away from their families because the family have to choose between food or clothes. Next you'll be proposing we bring back workhouses. Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree. I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect? People are too quick to judge. I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder. And some people genuinely struggle to get by financially. Do you dispute this? Or do you think it's made up? Some people do struggle yes. In a way it should be so I.e. Anyone on long term benefits should struggle. That doesn't mean people shouldn't be able to afford food but equally it doesn't mean that they should have the life of Reilly. the dignified don't even enter in the game*
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In The Crowd 05 Apr 15 8.29pm

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Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.51pm

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Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.06pm

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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm

Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s***ty parenting.

Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening.

This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect.

Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree.

I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect?
People are too quick to judge.

I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder.

And some people genuinely struggle to get by financially. Do you dispute this? Or do you think it's made up?

Some people do struggle yes. In a way it should be so I.e. Anyone on long term benefits should struggle. That doesn't mean people shouldn't be able to afford food but equally it doesn't mean that they should have the life of Reilly.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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chris123 hove actually 05 Apr 15 8.53pm
Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 8.20pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.51pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.39pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.21pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.06pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 6.01pm Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s***ty parenting. Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening. This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect. Really? Do you think people do this deliberately? As such, teachers are required to report this sort of thing and they do. However, are you expecting children to be taken away from their families because the family have to choose between food or clothes. Next you'll be proposing we bring back workhouses. Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree. I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect? People are too quick to judge. I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder. And some people genuinely struggle to get by financially. Do you dispute this? Or do you think it's made up? You seem to think if someone is hard up, not providing for a child's basic needs might not be neglect - I cannot adequately express how much I disagree with you.
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hove actually 05 Apr 15 8.53pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 8.20pm

Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.51pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.39pm

Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.21pm

Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.06pm

Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 6.01pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm

Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s***ty parenting.

Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening.

This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect.

Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree.

I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect?
People are too quick to judge.

I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder.

And some people genuinely struggle to get by financially. Do you dispute this? Or do you think it's made up?

You seem to think if someone is hard up, not providing for a child's basic needs might not be neglect - I cannot adequately express how much I disagree with you.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Apr 15 9.01pm
Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 8.53pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 8.20pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.51pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.39pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 7.21pm Quote nickgusset at 05 Apr 2015 7.06pm Quote chris123 at 05 Apr 2015 6.01pm Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 05 Apr 2015 4.16pm Sorry but that's not to do with poverty, that's s***ty parenting. Times are tough for some people, no doubt and whilst you can argue the pros and cons of the current benefit system there's enough to stop this from happening. This is clearly neglect, and any teacher not reporting it immediately is complicit to that neglect. Really? Do you think people do this deliberately? As such, teachers are required to report this sort of thing and they do. However, are you expecting children to be taken away from their families because the family have to choose between food or clothes. Next you'll be proposing we bring back workhouses. Well not meeting a child's basic needs is neglect - and a responsible adult, who is passive and does nothing, is complicit in my view. I can't believe you don't agree. I do agree. However if you cannot afford to is it still neglect? People are too quick to judge. I doubt you can price the cost of neglecting a child's basic needs, so of course it's neglect, people are too quick to adopt a slopey shoulder. And some people genuinely struggle to get by financially. Do you dispute this? Or do you think it's made up? You seem to think if someone is hard up, not providing for a child's basic needs might not be neglect - I cannot adequately express how much I disagree with you. The child would be neglected, but not deliberately. Seriously, people on tight budgets face stark choices. Rather than tarring parents, why not focus on the cause of the poverty.
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