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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 May 15 9.53pm

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imbored Flag UK 08 May 15 10.02pm

The expiry date on 'we're clearing up Labour's financial mess' must surely be approaching. It was a clever tactic to blame the Labour party for the economy, when there was a global banking crisis, during a time where the Conservative party wanted to deregulate banks even further and had pledged to match Labour's spending.

People have short memories. Whoever's in power, conditions eventually change and they are deemed to have f***ed up regardless of the circumstances. Nature of the beast though. Happened before and it'll happen again.

Edited by imbored (08 May 2015 11.41pm)

 
eagleeeeeeees Flag 08 May 15 10.04pm

This is a crystal palace website and I come on here to read about crystal palace. Don't try and influence who I'm going to vote for or how I should perceive a certain party or person. Let people make their own minds up rather than posting something from one source. If you wanna talk politics go and talk your local MP, I'd rather watch my local team thrash the mancs.

 
imbored Flag UK 08 May 15 10.07pm

Quote eagleeeeeeees at 08 May 2015 10.04pm

This is a crystal palace website and I come on here to read about crystal palace. Don't try and influence who I'm going to vote for or how I should perceive a certain party or person. Let people make their own minds up rather than posting something from one source. If you wanna talk politics go and talk your local MP, I'd rather watch my local team thrash the mancs.


This is the General board. There's a tonne of political threads

 
TUX Flag redhill 08 May 15 10.14pm

Quote eagleeeeeeees at 08 May 2015 10.04pm

This is a crystal palace website and I come on here to read about crystal palace. Don't try and influence who I'm going to vote for or how I should perceive a certain party or person. Let people make their own minds up rather than posting something from one source. If you wanna talk politics go and talk your local MP, I'd rather watch my local team thrash the mancs.

I guess you'll wake up tomorrow with half a kebab stuck to your face?
We've all been there.


 
eagleeeeeeees Flag 08 May 15 10.16pm

Not really sure what politics is doing on a CPFC website, I'm as interested in politics as the next and respect people wanna talk about it, but this is very one sided and my sixteen year old comes on here and reads this stuff, which can have a great impression on the young. Not saying we should have censorship of nothing people need to read the truth but some balance needs to be added. I bet if the Tories had lost we would have had similar threads about what a disaster labkur is. Pretty trivial if you ask Mr

 
imbored Flag UK 08 May 15 10.25pm

Quote eagleeeeeeees at 08 May 2015 10.16pm

Not really sure what politics is doing on a CPFC website, I'm as interested in politics as the next and respect people wanna talk about it, but this is very one sided and my sixteen year old comes on here and reads this stuff, which can have a great impression on the young. Not saying we should have censorship of nothing people need to read the truth but some balance needs to be added. I bet if the Tories had lost we would have had similar threads about what a disaster labkur is. Pretty trivial if you ask Mr

All parties are criticised here by someone or other. If you're worried about your son being influenced by this forum I hope you don't buy a newspaper or own a TV either .

Edited by imbored (08 May 2015 10.27pm)

 
nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 May 15 10.32pm

I don't think cuts are trivial.


 
derben Flag 08 May 15 10.48pm

the electorate have decided, why don't you shut up now and stop posting your tedious propaganda links.

Edited by derben (08 May 2015 10.58pm)

 
legaleagle Flag 08 May 15 11.18pm

A true proponent of freedom of speech within a democracy

Nick, stop posting.Silly you,didn't you know there is now a golden dawn (no pun intended) and we're in a new phase , the enlightened one has spoken and said only points of view he agrees with are permissible henceforth!

 
Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 08 May 15 11.28pm

My issue with the link is that is an opinion. Based purely on today's result. Like arseholes we all have them. It's pure speculation which may or may not be proven to be correct.

It would be more Interesting if Nick posted the link and then put his point of view forward and the reasons why.

Otherwise it means nothing

 

the dignified don't even enter in the game

legaleagle Flag 08 May 15 11.38pm

Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU.

If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with?

There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to.

The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include:

Right to life
Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
Right to liberty and security
Freedom from slavery and forced labour
Right to a fair trial
No punishment without law
Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
Freedom of expression
Freedom of assembly and association
Right to marry and start a family
Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property
Right to education
Right to participate in free elections

So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate...


Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm)

 
OldFella Flag London 08 May 15 11.48pm

Quote derben at 08 May 2015 10.48pm

the electorate have decided, why don't you shut up now and stop posting your tedious propaganda links.

Edited by derben (08 May 2015 10.58pm)

Well said that man. The people have spoken, pretty resoundingly, and the Conservatives have prevailed despite the boundary bias faced by them.

Take a look at the local election results also - it seems Labour isn't trusted to run a bath.

You'll have to find somewhere else to build your lefty utopia, chaps, because it is pretty obviously not wanted here.


 

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humber eagle Flag hull 08 May 15 11.51pm

We voted , they won, get over it. Pretty happy with the overall result to be honest. Thats after 23 years in the forces and 7 years as a lecturer, nothing to complain about as I get to keep the hard earned money I've worked my bollocks off for.
If you don't like it and feel you're hard done by because your benefits are being cut or your going to have to work harder....welcome to the life most of us have to endure.In my opinion that is.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 May 15 11.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm

Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU.

If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with?

There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to.

The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include:

Right to life
Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
Right to liberty and security
Freedom from slavery and forced labour
Right to a fair trial
No punishment without law
Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
Freedom of expression
Freedom of assembly and association
Right to marry and start a family
Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property
Right to education
Right to participate in free elections

So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate...


Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm)


I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls***....

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 May 15 11.55pm

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Just for starters & there's dozens more !111

 

Pro USA & Israel
legaleagle Flag 08 May 15 11.58pm

The golden dawn gathers steam.Any criticism of the new "democratic" order is attributed to being a proponent of promoting a lefty socialist utopia.Kind of how McCarthyism started off in a way...

Of course the electorate has spoken.But who's saying they haven't?

Your comments are as valid as suggesting Tories should have stopped expressing a view as soon as the 1945 or 1997 election results came in...and I'll wager you didn't (perfectly reasonably) stop expressing your views after election day in May 1997

Its a pendulum,Sooner or later it swings the other way,especially after another £12 billion of cuts begin to bite...


 
legaleagle Flag 08 May 15 11.59pm

Quote OldFella at 08 May 2015 11.48pm

Quote derben at 08 May 2015 10.48pm

the electorate have decided, why don't you shut up now and stop posting your tedious propaganda links.

Edited by derben (08 May 2015 10.58pm)

Well said that man. The people have spoken, pretty resoundingly, and the Conservatives have prevailed despite the boundary bias faced by them.

Take a look at the local election results also - it seems Labour isn't trusted to run a bath.

You'll have to find somewhere else to build your lefty utopia, chaps, because it is pretty obviously not wanted here.


The golden dawn gathers steam.Any criticism of the new "democratic" order is attributed to being a proponent of promoting a lefty socialist utopia.Kind of how McCarthyism started off in a way...

Of course the electorate has spoken.But who's saying they haven't?

Your comments are as valid as suggesting Tories should have stopped expressing a view as soon as the 1945 or 1997 election results came in...and I'll wager you didn't (perfectly reasonably) stop expressing your views after election day in May 1997

Its a pendulum,Sooner or later it swings the other way,especially after another £12 billion of cuts begin to bite...

 
humber eagle Flag hull 09 May 15 12.01am

Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm

Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU.

If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with?

There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to.

The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include:

Right to life
Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
Right to liberty and security
Freedom from slavery and forced labour
Right to a fair trial
No punishment without law
Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
Freedom of expression
Freedom of assembly and association
Right to marry and start a family
Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property
Right to education
Right to participate in free elections

So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate...


Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm)


I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls***....

Surely any changes to protect the country and its citizens can only be a positive. They can only amend the Human Rights Act, as it belongs to the UK, however the UNHDR cannot be amended by anyone, which is the foundations to how we would like to think our great country is being run. Our rapists, murderers, child molesters etc. will finally be given a sentence that cannot be interfered with by those tossers in Europe or those who believe the culprits have issues and need counselling.

 

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legaleagle Flag 09 May 15 12.02am

Quote Jimenez at 08 May 2015 11.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 08 May 2015 11.38pm

Sure.But,its an interesting article.An opinion,yes. So,sometimes a link on its own can be valid.One loads on here might not agree with.But a valid issue.Its not just based on today's outcome.The Tories are committed to abolishing/amending the Act. Their own last Attorney General criticised them strongly for this.So,being against it is hardly just a tedious "out there" "nutty lefty" opinion.Now they have a majority they are likely to do so,not least because its a way of appeasing some segments of anti-EU/little englander sentiment,even though the Act and the Convention are actually nothing to do with the EU.

If they get rid of the Human Rights Act/European Convention on Human Rights,what will they replace it with?

There's loads in the press about the Act,but its almost all about a tiny part of what the Act actually relates to.

The Act sets out the fundamental rights and freedoms that individuals in the UK have access to. They include:

Right to life
Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
Right to liberty and security
Freedom from slavery and forced labour
Right to a fair trial
No punishment without law
Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
Freedom of expression
Freedom of assembly and association
Right to marry and start a family
Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
Right to peaceful enjoyment of your property
Right to education
Right to participate in free elections

So,its hardly naff to raise the issue for debate...


Edited by legaleagle (08 May 2015 11.45pm)


I don't think any right minded person would object to the things you've stated. My beef is when people blatantly abuse it, Like Rapists/Murderers not being deported because they are entitled to 'Family life" they are alcoholics, Gay,and other such bulls***....


The problem is that anything will always have some abuse.So,as a lawyer,I see clever people representing themselves "playing the system" to get out of something.But,the reason why they can is because of certain safeguards built into the system to protect many more others from abuse...

 
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