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matt_himself Matataland 13 May 15 9.04pm
Good news: [Link] Signs that the recovery is on a more stable footing now, even though growth projection for 2015 has been reduced. Let's hope this continues. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 13 May 15 9.04pm

Good news:

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Signs that the recovery is on a more stable footing now, even though growth projection for 2015 has been reduced.

Let's hope this continues.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Catfish Burgess Hill 13 May 15 9.08pm
Have the numbers of unemployed gone down or is it the number that has gone down? When politicians as civil servants to improve the stats they usually give it their best shot. Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial
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Burgess Hill 13 May 15 9.08pm

Have the numbers of unemployed gone down or is it the number that has gone down?
When politicians as civil servants to improve the stats they usually give it their best shot.

Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial

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suicideatselhurst crawley 13 May 15 9.15pm
Anyone that has been given a zero hours contract, is not really in full employment, if you took those figures out of the stats im sure it would read a bit diffferent Theres someone in my head ... But its not me X/Box game Tag bazcpfc1961, clan (HMS)
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crawley 13 May 15 9.15pm

Anyone that has been given a zero hours contract, is not really in full employment, if you took those figures out of the stats im sure it would read a bit diffferent

Theres someone in my head ... But its not me

X/Box game Tag bazcpfc1961, clan (HMS)

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johnfirewall 13 May 15 9.16pm
There is an argument that it's all the zero hours contracts, but that would require firms to employ more people to do less hours, but you either need people or you don't.
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13 May 15 9.16pm

There is an argument that it's all the zero hours contracts, but that would require firms to employ more people to do less hours, but you either need people or you don't.

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matt_himself Matataland 13 May 15 9.20pm
There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK. Whilst the uncertainty of work is no doubt a concern for a proportion of this number, a proportion of this number like the flexibility the contracts offer and fit work accordingly around family, study and other career pursuits, such as internships when available. The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 13 May 15 9.20pm

There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK.

Whilst the uncertainty of work is no doubt a concern for a proportion of this number, a proportion of this number like the flexibility the contracts offer and fit work accordingly around family, study and other career pursuits, such as internships when available.

The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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legaleagle 13 May 15 9.27pm
The fall in numbers of unemployed in the latest figures is 35,000..."unemployed" is defined as people offering themselves for work and not being able to find any. The fall is about 2.6% from last time.The figures are based on a survey carried out by ONS,with a 3% margin of error. Edited by legaleagle (13 May 2015 9.28pm)
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13 May 15 9.27pm

The fall in numbers of unemployed in the latest figures is 35,000..."unemployed" is defined as people offering themselves for work and not being able to find any.

The fall is about 2.6% from last time.The figures are based on a survey carried out by ONS,with a 3% margin of error.

Edited by legaleagle (13 May 2015 9.28pm)

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suicideatselhurst crawley 13 May 15 9.30pm
Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK. Whilst the uncertainty of work is no doubt a concern for a proportion of this number, a proportion of this number like the flexibility the contracts offer and fit work accordingly around family, study and other career pursuits, such as internships when available. The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't. i dont think their evil matt, just an easy option for employers to not give out full employment, we use them alot at Gatwick, they can be of use to people looking for second jobs but you wouldnt want to make a living on them Theres someone in my head ... But its not me X/Box game Tag bazcpfc1961, clan (HMS)
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crawley 13 May 15 9.30pm

Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm

There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK.

The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't.

i dont think their evil matt, just an easy option for employers to not give out full employment, we use them alot at Gatwick, they can be of use to people looking for second jobs but you wouldnt want to make a living on them

Theres someone in my head ... But its not me

X/Box game Tag bazcpfc1961, clan (HMS)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 May 15 9.41am
Quote suicideatselhurst at 13 May 2015 9.30pm Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK. Whilst the uncertainty of work is no doubt a concern for a proportion of this number, a proportion of this number like the flexibility the contracts offer and fit work accordingly around family, study and other career pursuits, such as internships when available. The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't. i dont think their evil matt, just an easy option for employers to not give out full employment, we use them alot at Gatwick, they can be of use to people looking for second jobs but you wouldnt want to make a living on them In certain areas, where you're employing people on an ad-hoc basis, to fill requirement (such as a catering company specializing in events) then zero hour contracts make sense. If you're filling regular working hours with zero-hour contracts, such as a supermarket, store etc then its bordering on the 'evils'. Any job that is filling regular time in a regular schedule, should be exempt from zero hour contracts. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Quote suicideatselhurst at 13 May 2015 9.30pm

Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm

There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK.

The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't.

In certain areas, where you're employing people on an ad-hoc basis, to fill requirement (such as a catering company specializing in events) then zero hour contracts make sense.

If you're filling regular working hours with zero-hour contracts, such as a supermarket, store etc then its bordering on the 'evils'. Any job that is filling regular time in a regular schedule, should be exempt from zero hour contracts.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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OknotOK Cockfosters, London 14 May 15 9.45am
Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK. Whilst the uncertainty of work is no doubt a concern for a proportion of this number, a proportion of this number like the flexibility the contracts offer and fit work accordingly around family, study and other career pursuits, such as internships when available. The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't. I think many on the left (which I probably count myself as just about) have found it very difficult to know how to deal with the unemployment numbers. They are unquestionably good - hence the focus on zero hour contracts etc - and it is a story that the Tories were failing to push until the latter stages of the campaign (focusing instead on deficit reduction/debt, which they have largely failed at). Which is surpising because it has been a significant success. But there is plenty of evidence that the jobs being created are - to a very large extent - low skill, low productivity, and low pay. ZHC can be good for people and there is some study evidence (although far from conclusive) that a large number of people on them are happy to be on them. But I think Labour was right to raise them as an issue - there was clear exploitation and it did force the government's hand to legislate. "It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show
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Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm

There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK.

The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't.

I think many on the left (which I probably count myself as just about) have found it very difficult to know how to deal with the unemployment numbers.

They are unquestionably good - hence the focus on zero hour contracts etc - and it is a story that the Tories were failing to push until the latter stages of the campaign (focusing instead on deficit reduction/debt, which they have largely failed at). Which is surpising because it has been a significant success.

But there is plenty of evidence that the jobs being created are - to a very large extent - low skill, low productivity, and low pay.

ZHC can be good for people and there is some study evidence (although far from conclusive) that a large number of people on them are happy to be on them. But I think Labour was right to raise them as an issue - there was clear exploitation and it did force the government's hand to legislate.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

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Helmet46 Croydon 14 May 15 1.05pm
Quote OknotOK at 14 May 2015 9.45am Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK. Whilst the uncertainty of work is no doubt a concern for a proportion of this number, a proportion of this number like the flexibility the contracts offer and fit work accordingly around family, study and other career pursuits, such as internships when available. The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't. I think many on the left (which I probably count myself as just about) have found it very difficult to know how to deal with the unemployment numbers. They are unquestionably good - hence the focus on zero hour contracts etc - and it is a story that the Tories were failing to push until the latter stages of the campaign (focusing instead on deficit reduction/debt, which they have largely failed at). Which is surpising because it has been a significant success. But there is plenty of evidence that the jobs being created are - to a very large extent - low skill, low productivity, and low pay. ZHC can be good for people and there is some study evidence (although far from conclusive) that a large number of people on them are happy to be on them. But I think Labour was right to raise them as an issue - there was clear exploitation and it did force the government's hand to legislate. Always surprised me that they raised them, given that 70 sitting labour MP's are alleged to employ staff on them. And: - [Link] However, I agree that they need to be stopped in most cases. My son worked for Sports Direct on one and it was sh1t. Just don't really like the hypocrisy of politics. Edited by Helmet46 (14 May 2015 1.08pm) Edited by Helmet46 (14 May 2015 1.15pm)
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Croydon 14 May 15 1.05pm

Quote OknotOK at 14 May 2015 9.45am

Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm

There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK.

The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't.

I think many on the left (which I probably count myself as just about) have found it very difficult to know how to deal with the unemployment numbers.

But there is plenty of evidence that the jobs being created are - to a very large extent - low skill, low productivity, and low pay.

ZHC can be good for people and there is some study evidence (although far from conclusive) that a large number of people on them are happy to be on them. But I think Labour was right to raise them as an issue - there was clear exploitation and it did force the government's hand to legislate.

Always surprised me that they raised them, given that 70 sitting labour MP's are alleged to employ staff on them. And: - [Link]
However, I agree that they need to be stopped in most cases. My son worked for Sports Direct on one and it was sh1t. Just don't really like the hypocrisy of politics.

Edited by Helmet46 (14 May 2015 1.08pm)

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 14 May 15 1.31pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 14 May 2015 9.41am Quote suicideatselhurst at 13 May 2015 9.30pm Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK. Whilst the uncertainty of work is no doubt a concern for a proportion of this number, a proportion of this number like the flexibility the contracts offer and fit work accordingly around family, study and other career pursuits, such as internships when available. The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't. i dont think their evil matt, just an easy option for employers to not give out full employment, we use them alot at Gatwick, they can be of use to people looking for second jobs but you wouldnt want to make a living on them In certain areas, where you're employing people on an ad-hoc basis, to fill requirement (such as a catering company specializing in events) then zero hour contracts make sense. If you're filling regular working hours with zero-hour contracts, such as a supermarket, store etc then its bordering on the 'evils'. Any job that is filling regular time in a regular schedule, should be exempt from zero hour contracts. They don't have to take the job, you know. There are others out there. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 14 May 2015 9.41am

Quote suicideatselhurst at 13 May 2015 9.30pm

Quote matt_himself at 13 May 2015 9.20pm

There are approximately 700,000 people on zero hours contracts in the UK.

The broad brush that zero hours contracts are 'evil' isn't true. People have different lives and this needs to be respected. I wouldn't want a zero hours contract but that doesn't mean others don't.

In certain areas, where you're employing people on an ad-hoc basis, to fill requirement (such as a catering company specializing in events) then zero hour contracts make sense.

They don't have to take the job, you know. There are others out there.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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martinb75 Tampere 14 May 15 2.00pm
They will soon have death squads on the street to hunt down the unemployed. Just to keep the numbers down.
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They will soon have death squads on the street to hunt down the unemployed. Just to keep the numbers down.

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