Didn't you read, I said why.

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Read it again. The difference is in the wording. Migrants are not the se as refugees. Even if you are , in your words, eating gruel ,you are safe. Does that make it ok to put you and your family back in danger to improve your living conditions. No it doesnt if we follow the point of this thread which is action off the back of that picture of the dead child. Turkey is safe and they would have been processed in due course. There was no need to board that boat.

So they are economic migrants and go through the right chanel 's of emigration.

I just want to clarify the logic of your post to be clear here.

1) do you therefore believe it is a legitimate asylum policy to house people in tents indefinitely, even as winter approaches?

2) As someone about to go to Turkey long term, I can assure you efficiency in granting visas is not one of their strong points. They have an incredibly conservative government, and their leader President Erdogan has just come out backing Putin's claim that the migrants are the West's problem. In diplomacy talk, that effectively means Turkey aren't going to keep taking tens of thousands of refugees in for much longer.

3) And this is a point which remains conveniently ignored by pretty much everyone. We bombed the sh*t out of Libya, we weaponised the Ethiopians who are causing thousands of Eritreans to flee their home country, and our attempts at 'tackling ISIS' have been an absolute disaster, teaming up with Turkey who are more interested in bombing the Kurds fighting them. Why do you, and others, believe we have no obligation at all in taking in the product of our own catastrophic foreign policy?

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

We are all privileged in this country, even the poorest are a lot better off here than in many other countries.

As a teacher, do you have to compete with migrants for your job? (Genuine question, not a dig).

Also I can't remember time last time I couldn't get an appointment to see a doctor the same day if I call up in the morning and if I call in the afternoon I can get an appointment for the following morning, despite the current "crisis" in the NHS.

The irony for me is that I would not get any appointment if it was not for the work that foreign doctors and nurses do in the NHS. I would love us to train more doctors and nurses so we wouldn't have to rely on migrants coming into the NHS but for whatever reason and there are many that is not the reality.

Either we cannot attract to right people to the jobs, we are not able to pay enough or people are just not interested in doing such a hard and demanding job. I wouldn't want to do it.

I have followed this and the other "migrant" threads on the site and I think that there are very good points on both sides. We can't have unrestricted migration into the country, It's just not feasible but it's clear that we can do a lot more than we do to help.

I must say that my heart was warmed by the scenes in Munich. I am pleased that ordinary people still give a damn. For me the world is in a poor state because people just don't care about other people and not because of those people that do care and spend their time to help.

"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

I think some people would rather make excuses to do nothing, by point fingers at others, than admit that maybe its a crisis which seems to be affecting everyone in the region

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