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 Stirlingsays  26 Sep 23 2.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I suppose that part of the fun of boxing is the barber shop comparisons it throws up. For me, Ali and Tyson in their prime beat everyone. Holyfield was obviously on roids as was Tommy Morrison, and I'm sure others back then as now. What you can't take drugs for is natural talent. As you say styles make fights, and human beings vary in performance. Two guys fight ten times and you will get a variety of outcomes if they are well matched. Fury hasn't lost yet and like everyone else, I'm keen to see him fight Joshua and Usyk. Joshua is not ready yet, he has too many demons, and fighting Usyk right now carries too much baggage. When the war ends, if it ever does, I suspect we will see that fight. I don't see Fury ever fighting Usyk.....We all knows he waffles but recently he's talking as if he just wants to fight exhibitions and leave boxing. I can see AJ fighting Wilder......Hearn thinks Daniel Dubois wins his appeal. I think the Hrgovic v Usyk fight will be good. I want to know will Chisora ever retire? Hearn needs to stop booking him as he won't stop by his own accord. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2023 2.42pm)
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Teddy Eagle  29 Oct 23 12.34am |
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 29 Oct 23 3.04am |
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Just watched the highlights. It was a good fight and Ngannou did very well. However, Fury looked out of shape and you wonder if ,...a) did Fury do enough training ? or b) Is Fury well past his sell-by date ?
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| nickyf 29 Oct 23 12.14pm |
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Boxing showed everything that is wrong with the sport last night too much hype with no decent product, with a dubious decision,
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| Stirlingsays 29 Oct 23 12.50pm |
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Fury might even retire after that.
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| Teddy Eagle 29 Oct 23 1.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Fury might even retire after that. Or he might just want easier opponents so he can carry on picking up £10m every few months without putting his belts on the line.
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grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 29 Oct 23 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
All these types of fights are a farce. If these Pro really wanted to they could win these in first if not second round every time.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Oct 23 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Or he might just want easier opponents so he can carry on picking up £10m every few months without putting his belts on the line. Money for old rope-a-dope....with the dopes being the normies to pay for those match ups. Why does everything have to be about extracting the most money for the least quality.....boxing is seemingly obsessed with self harming. The pendulum swung too much the other way and now the top boxers themselves have too much power and the product suffers. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Oct 2023 2.33pm)
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 29 Oct 23 2.55pm |
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It's just one long swerve-a-thon, with none of the big boys getting to fight one another for fear of,....losing a big pay day when they fall down the rankings. The heavyweight division is just shockingly bad.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Oct 23 3.03pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
It's just one long swerve-a-thon, with none of the big boys getting to fight one another for fear of,....losing a big pay day when they fall down the rankings. The heavyweight division is just shockingly bad. Yep, boxing at the top end is way overpaid for what it is putting out. I was more interested in the Fabio Wardley fight, not because Wardley is anything special but because he's a likeable personality.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 30 Oct 23 1.47pm |
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I can't accept that there wasn't some skulduggery in that fight. There is no way that a man who had defeated Wilder twice (truthfully three times) beat Klitchko and made Dillian White and Dereck Chisora looks like chumps can suddenly be that bad against a novice boxer unless he wanted to look bad on purpose and or just didn't do any proper training for the fight. My theory, albeit a cynical one, is that the fight with Usyk was looking like a certain win for Fury in many people's eyes and therefore had less appeal as a box office draw. Fury has made more millions for himself and his promoters and Ngannou has a great introduction to boxing and will make loads of money for Saudi, his promoters and himself. Everybody wins, and this fight will be forgotten when Fury beats Usyk and AJ. Let's see how it pans out. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Oct 2023 1.48pm)
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| Teddy Eagle 07 Nov 23 2.47pm |
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