Just a couple of observations.

I wouldn't agree that Christianity made society more brutal, which I think you are implying. The nature of life at that time meant that life was brutal as a matter of course. Society is patriarchal whether it's Christian or not due to biological differences.

As for taking the Bible literally, I think I can legitimately say that, unlike with the Qur'an, neither Judaism nor Christianity claim this....outside of a few fundamentalist sects.

To go along with the tradition taught about the Bible, the old testament isn't claimed as the direct words of 'god', but of scribes and prophets having god speak through them and it isn't till we get to the New Testament that this changes and even then it's still second hand reports rather than direct.

Hence interpretation of passages carries far more weight within both of those Abrahamic religions.

It is of course this wiggle room that allows for what.....quite frankly I regard as p1ss taking with the religion's traditions.

For example, female vicars and rainbow churches.

Yes, by all means interpret, but....that doesn't mean say up is down.

But that's the clown world we currently live in.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2023 9.20pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Fortunately, they are NOT required to 'reverse park' & do a '3-point turn' in a twin or single deckers.

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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i predict that when the first Female Prem manager does emerge, the BBC, Sky sports etc will laud her and claim she can do no wrong.

And in fairness, if she has the talent to break through that glass-ceiling ? she will probably be at least better than the bottom quartile of male-managers.

Although many players, from the Developing World, may still prefer to be managed by a man.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (05 Jun 2023 2.06pm)

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

What's kind of amusing is he's moaning about people moaning and doesn't appear to be aware of the contradiction.

There's no joy in the soy.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The average UK Bride is now approx 35 years old. By which point most Romans were dead.

Roman brides WERE virgins cos they were probably only just out of pigtails ( or whatever fashion kids did back then). A Roman career-woman was as rare as a hen's tooth. Hence, no female football managers at the Coliseum.

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

Whilst that is true, mortality rates are averages not norms. For example, the Max Plank Institute did a study which found

Scholars in the Holy Roman Empire could expect to live for about 60 years as early as at the close of the Middle Ages. But their life expectancy did not climb any further right into the 18th century. Just the contrary, the Thirty Years' War brought a severe mortality crisis.

In the early 7th Century BC, the Greek poet Hesiod wrote that a man should marry “when you are not much less than 30, and not much more”. Meanwhile, ancient Rome’s ‘cursus honorum’ – the sequence of political offices that an ambitious young man would undertake – didn’t even allow a young man to stand for his first office, that of quaestor, until the age of 30 (under Emperor Augustus, this was later lowered to 25; Augustus himself died at 75). To be consul, you had to be 43 – eight years older than the US’s minimum age limit of 35 to hold a presidency.

Taken altogether, life span in ancient Rome probably wasn’t much different from today.

Archaeologists Christine Cave and Marc Oxenham of Australian National University have recently found the same. Looking at dental wear on the skeletons of Anglo-Saxons buried about 1,500 years ago, they found that of 174 skeletons, the majority belonged to people who were under 65 – but there also were 16 people who died between 65 and 74 years old and nine who reached at least 75 years of age.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Jun 2023 8.22am)