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Elpis In a pub 28 Aug 23 4.20pm
Originally posted by eaglesdare I just seen rashfords penalty win on match of the day. How in the world is that a penalty? And how in the world do the pundits agree it's a penalty? The pundits diddn't dwell on it but if pushed Im sure they would have agreed it wasn't a pen IF the ref had not given it . Personally no it wasn't, Rashford was as much to blame for the touching of thighs as the defender IMO .But it was an on field decision which Im sure we all prefer rather than VAR getting involved And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 28 Aug 23 4.20pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

I just seen rashfords penalty win on match of the day.

How in the world is that a penalty? And how in the world do the pundits agree it's a penalty?

The pundits diddn't dwell on it but if pushed Im sure they would have agreed it wasn't a pen IF the ref had not given it .

Personally no it wasn't, Rashford was as much to blame for the touching of thighs as the defender IMO .But it was an on field decision which Im sure we all prefer rather than VAR getting involved

And we still need a striker

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Teddy Eagle 28 Aug 23 4.54pm
Originally posted by Elpis The pundits diddn't dwell on it but if pushed Im sure they would have agreed it wasn't a pen IF the ref had not given it . Personally no it wasn't, Rashford was as much to blame for the touching of thighs as the defender IMO .But it was an on field decision which Im sure we all prefer rather than VAR getting involved That was the reason Dermot Gallagher gave. He said VAR have been told not to get involved with on field decisions unless...well, who knows really? An interesting one was the Sheffield Utd goal where McBurnie was clearly offside and even impeding the goalkeeper but Kyle Walker had slid off the pitch and so played him onside even though he wasn't actually on the pitch at the time.
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Teddy Eagle

28 Aug 23 4.54pm

Originally posted by Elpis

The pundits diddn't dwell on it but if pushed Im sure they would have agreed it wasn't a pen IF the ref had not given it .

Personally no it wasn't, Rashford was as much to blame for the touching of thighs as the defender IMO .But it was an on field decision which Im sure we all prefer rather than VAR getting involved

That was the reason Dermot Gallagher gave. He said VAR have been told not to get involved with on field decisions unless...well, who knows really?
An interesting one was the Sheffield Utd goal where McBurnie was clearly offside and even impeding the goalkeeper but Kyle Walker had slid off the pitch and so played him onside even though he wasn't actually on the pitch at the time.

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 28 Aug 23 4.56pm
Originally posted by Willo From my humble perspective, it was a stonewall penalty. There would have been much wailing and lamentation amongst our supporters if Rashford had been our player and a penalty had not been awarded. Edited by Willo (28 Aug 2023 8.00am) Clattenberg would have given it, after all it was at Old Trafford
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the silurian

The garden of England.(not really) 28 Aug 23 4.56pm

Originally posted by Willo

From my humble perspective, it was a stonewall penalty.
There would have been much wailing and lamentation amongst our supporters if Rashford had been our player and a penalty had not been awarded.

Edited by Willo (28 Aug 2023 8.00am)

Clattenberg would have given it, after all it was at Old Trafford

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steeleye20 Croydon 28 Aug 23 4.57pm
Originally posted by Spiderman One word “Utd” Anyone else think their second goal was offside. Surely Casemiro was offside in the build up and had to be interfering with play or am I missing something? If it was Forest, not United, would they have got those decisions? I think we know the answer to that one.
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steeleye20

Croydon 28 Aug 23 4.57pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

One word “Utd”
Anyone else think their second goal was offside. Surely Casemiro was offside in the build up and had to be interfering with play or am I missing something?

If it was Forest, not United, would they have got those decisions?

I think we know the answer to that one.

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 28 Aug 23 4.59pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 If it was Forest, not United, would they have got those decisions? I think we know the answer to that one. most certainly would not have been given in favour of Forest (or us)
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the silurian

The garden of England.(not really) 28 Aug 23 4.59pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

If it was Forest, not United, would they have got those decisions?

I think we know the answer to that one.

most certainly would not have been given in favour of Forest (or us)

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Aug 23 5.14pm
Originally posted by Elpis The pundits diddn't dwell on it but if pushed Im sure they would have agreed it wasn't a pen IF the ref had not given it . Personally no it wasn't, Rashford was as much to blame for the touching of thighs as the defender IMO .But it was an on field decision which Im sure we all prefer rather than VAR getting involved So hopefully VAR will not overturn any on field decisions given to “lesser” teams
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Spiderman

Horsham 28 Aug 23 5.14pm

Originally posted by Elpis

The pundits diddn't dwell on it but if pushed Im sure they would have agreed it wasn't a pen IF the ref had not given it .

Personally no it wasn't, Rashford was as much to blame for the touching of thighs as the defender IMO .But it was an on field decision which Im sure we all prefer rather than VAR getting involved

So hopefully VAR will not overturn any on field decisions given to “lesser” teams

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Aug 23 5.15pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle That was the reason Dermot Gallagher gave. He said VAR have been told not to get involved with on field decisions unless...well, who knows really? An interesting one was the Sheffield Utd goal where McBurnie was clearly offside and even impeding the goalkeeper but Kyle Walker had slid off the pitch and so played him onside even though he wasn't actually on the pitch at the time. Surely a player off the pitch cannot play someone onside? Have I missed something
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Spiderman

Horsham 28 Aug 23 5.15pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Surely a player off the pitch cannot play someone onside? Have I missed something

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Teddy Eagle 28 Aug 23 5.20pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Surely a player off the pitch cannot play someone onside? Have I missed something That's what I thought but he was very definite about it. It was on this morning's Ref Watch.
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Teddy Eagle

28 Aug 23 5.20pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Surely a player off the pitch cannot play someone onside? Have I missed something

That's what I thought but he was very definite about it. It was on this morning's Ref Watch.

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Spiderman Horsham 28 Aug 23 5.34pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle That was the reason Dermot Gallagher gave. He said VAR have been told not to get involved with on field decisions unless...well, who knows really? An interesting one was the Sheffield Utd goal where McBurnie was clearly offside and even impeding the goalkeeper but Kyle Walker had slid off the pitch and so played him onside even though he wasn't actually on the pitch at the time. Another interesting one was Ayew’s disallowed goal against Sheffield Utd. Apparently a player cannot be deemed as offside if he reacts to a rebound from a save. This he most certainly did
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Spiderman

Horsham 28 Aug 23 5.34pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Another interesting one was Ayew’s disallowed goal against Sheffield Utd. Apparently a player cannot be deemed as offside if he reacts to a rebound from a save. This he most certainly did

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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Sep 23 9.39am
Our sympathies to Marco Silva Fulham boss who is understandably doing his Portugese nut over Ake's allowed effort against them. Had there been no VAR, Michael Oliver, who looked in pain, would no doubt have disallowed it. Here is the audio:- VAR Harrington: "So the keeper sees it, there's no difference, we're happy. Check complete?" AVAR Nunn: "Personally, I'm happy for check complete." VAR Harrington: "OK, check complete, check complete." Not exactly the Supreme Court, is it?
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steeleye20

Croydon 06 Sep 23 9.39am

Our sympathies to Marco Silva Fulham boss who is understandably doing his Portugese nut over Ake's allowed effort against them.

Had there been no VAR, Michael Oliver, who looked in pain, would no doubt have disallowed it.

Here is the audio:-

VAR Harrington: "So the keeper sees it, there's no difference, we're happy. Check complete?"

AVAR Nunn: "Personally, I'm happy for check complete."

VAR Harrington: "OK, check complete, check complete."

Not exactly the Supreme Court, is it?

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Sep 23 9.52am
Sky TV continue to suck the life out of Soccer Saturday with the introduction of Mike Dean as the ' go-to guy ' for refereeing / VAR incidents. In light of his recent revelations, it's incredible he got the gig. I won't be watching that in future. Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Sep 23 9.52am

Sky TV continue to suck the life out of Soccer Saturday with the introduction of Mike Dean as the ' go-to guy ' for refereeing / VAR incidents.

In light of his recent revelations, it's incredible he got the gig.

I won't be watching that in future.

Old, Ungifted and White

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Badger11 Beckenham 06 Sep 23 9.59am
Originally posted by NEILLO Sky TV continue to suck the life out of Soccer Saturday with the introduction of Mike Dean as the ' go-to guy ' for refereeing / VAR incidents. In light of his recent revelations, it's incredible he got the gig. I won't be watching that in future. Did he explain how the referees check the club badge before going to VAR. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 06 Sep 23 9.59am

Originally posted by NEILLO

Sky TV continue to suck the life out of Soccer Saturday with the introduction of Mike Dean as the ' go-to guy ' for refereeing / VAR incidents.

In light of his recent revelations, it's incredible he got the gig.

I won't be watching that in future.

Did he explain how the referees check the club badge before going to VAR.

One more point

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