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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 15 6.06pm

German's subsidising Greeks? It'll never happen!

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Quote nickgusset at 08 Jul 2015 6.06pm

German's subsidising Greeks? It'll never happen!


 


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Quote nickgusset at 08 Jul 2015 6.06pm

German's subsidising Greeks? It'll never happen!


She isn't German and he isn't Greek.

He came from a Greek family and was born there but it's well known he isn't fond of Greece.

He's British.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jul 2015 7.18pm)

 


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The danger here is sort of similar during the Great Depression in Germany. Their economy was completely wrecked and their money was worthless. These conditions helped create opportunities for fringe groups to rise and the end result was the Nazi Party taking over. There needs to be more reflection on just what is going on and less on whose money is whom's. Germany should certainly know better but the rest of Europe needs to take a breath. One thing I know, the euro/EMU must be re-defined in terms of that pesky little concept known as alignment or integration of economies. There was a rush after Maastricht in 1992 and now the haste of those five years is coming back to bite everyone in the touchis.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 08 Jul 15 8.10pm

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Quote nickgusset at 08 Jul 2015 6.06pm

German's subsidising Greeks? It'll never happen!


She isn't German and he isn't Greek.

He came from a Greek family and was born there but it's well known he isn't fond of Greece.

He's British.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jul 2015 7.18pm)

Pedant.

They were both good mates with Jimmy Saville weren't they?

 

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Greece.
Once again, the financial system is the problem.

What will be will be.

 

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Quote nickgusset at 08 Jul 2015 6.06pm

German's subsidising Greeks? It'll never happen!


 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Jul 2015 7.15pm

Quote nickgusset at 08 Jul 2015 6.06pm

German's subsidising Greeks? It'll never happen!


She isn't German and he isn't Greek.

He came from a Greek family and was born there but it's well known he isn't fond of Greece.

He's British.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jul 2015 7.18pm)

he's not fond of anyone miserable old goat

 


"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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When Hoof Hearted acts as if Greece deserves punishment because it hasn't undergone enough sanctions already.

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legaleagle Flag 08 Jul 15 11.30pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 08 Jul 2015 7.15pm

Quote nickgusset at 08 Jul 2015 6.06pm

German's subsidising Greeks? It'll never happen!


She isn't German and he isn't Greek.

He came from a Greek family and was born there but it's well known he isn't fond of Greece.

He's British.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jul 2015 7.18pm)

He is indeed a naturalised British citizen and has lived here for about nearly 80 years.His Greek roots don't go back too far.

He is a member of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg.

The "family link" to Greece goes back to 1863 when the distinctly not Greek, Wilhelm, became King of the Hellenes (with British support).

Liz is also a member of the same House through her great grandmother.


Edited by legaleagle (08 Jul 2015 11.39pm)

 

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legaleagle Flag 08 Jul 15 11.54pm

Quote chris123 at 08 Jul 2015 9.46am

Quote Cucking Funt at 07 Jul 2015 6.13pm

Taking all the infrastructure the Germans destroyed, the loans the Greek central bank was forced to make to Berlin, the outright theft of gold reserves, to the systematic removal of crops and livestock, I'd say Greece was a teeny weeny bit of a creditor, wouldn't you?


Different argument and not the point I was making with regard to 1953 London Agreement, East Germany was not represented at all don't forget.

Edited by chris123 (08 Jul 2015 9.49am)

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According to the BBC, German "massacres" in Greece in WW2 included one where 218 civilians were killed in Distomo in 1944. In 2000, the Greek Supreme Court ruled Germany should pay €28m to the relatives of those killed, although the decision was not enforced, and the dispute effectively reached stalemate in international courts in the following years.

Maybe the German government could pay that one now for a start.If ever a debt (even in the non legal sense) remained due from the "moral giants" heading up the economic powerhouse of the EU......or is it only bank debts that count for anything with such "moral giants"?

Edited by legaleagle (08 Jul 2015 11.57pm)

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 09 Jul 15 7.48am

Quote legaleagle at 08 Jul 2015 11.54pm

Quote chris123 at 08 Jul 2015 9.46am

Quote Cucking Funt at 07 Jul 2015 6.13pm

Taking all the infrastructure the Germans destroyed, the loans the Greek central bank was forced to make to Berlin, the outright theft of gold reserves, to the systematic removal of crops and livestock, I'd say Greece was a teeny weeny bit of a creditor, wouldn't you?


Different argument and not the point I was making with regard to 1953 London Agreement, East Germany was not represented at all don't forget.

Edited by chris123 (08 Jul 2015 9.49am)

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According to the BBC, German "massacres" in Greece in WW2 included one where 218 civilians were killed in Distomo in 1944. In 2000, the Greek Supreme Court ruled Germany should pay €28m to the relatives of those killed, although the decision was not enforced, and the dispute effectively reached stalemate in international courts in the following years.

Maybe the German government could pay that one now for a start.If ever a debt (even in the non legal sense) remained due from the "moral giants" heading up the economic powerhouse of the EU......or is it only bank debts that count for anything with such "moral giants"?

Edited by legaleagle (08 Jul 2015 11.57pm)

Greeks killing Greeks during their civil war caused 80,000 deaths, perhaps they should pay themselves €28m.

 


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