Oh dear, I see we have got to the point where criticising the Israeli Government is anti-Semitic.

It seems that the sole issue put forward for the killing spree is Hamas but even Hamas no longer refer to their Charter and it is now often used by Jews to excuse genocide, even though Hamas has changed its views. However Hamas is a violent organisation born out of the violence of the environment.

The current conflict was precipitated by the murder of young adults / youths by both sides, and had nothing to with Hamas. The world attention on MY-17 seen as a good time to bury bad news.

The real issue for Hamas is that in the last 18 months all funding for Hamas has dried up leaving only Qatar as a funding stream. Hamas' time is limited and the issue is that the evil that will take its place is far worse. Without the traditional parties, the relatively moderate Sunni Palestinians will welcome ISIS similar to Sadam Husssein's minority ethnic tribes in Iraq.

Perhaps the economy of Israel has got so intertwined with militarism that they need an enemy to justify the US funding, the required "Lebensraum" and social structures within society.

I'm not sure I totally support that part of legal's post. I'm unsure to what extent them helping the set up of religious charities can really be related to 'rival organizations' for discord.

It's possible....I'm more supportative of legal's balanced and far more objective language.

Your posts are usually a million miles from that and my main attack is upon your suggestion that Israel knowing created an enemy.....You believe that crap because you linked to it.

Where's the evidence for Iran suddenly not funding Hamas then?....They are their biggest funder as far as I'm aware. I'd like to see that.

You say Hamas aren't referring to their charter??????

The only point of saying something like this is to give the impression that they don't follow or believe in it.

Only people looking for excuses come out with statements like this. Hamas are refusing to make any permanent peace with the state called Israel..This is an unacceptable fact which should not be downplayed....That has never changed and the constitution is there to read....Hamas can change it at anytime and instantly change the whole dynamic.

As for this suggested nonsense that if you criticise Israel you're accused of being an anti semite.

I've criticised Israel many times on this thread and also Matt has.....So your first sentence is clearly nonsense. I'm free to make my own judgements as to anti semitic language and attitudes and yes I believe I've read them on here...I take it I'm allowed that opinion.

Aren't you a bit behind there old chap.

They have patched it up since then.

Not surprised if you are talking about the last few weeks.

There's are war crimes going on don't you know!