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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

Not saying if i am charged i will resign,Whelen saying he will resign if he is charged is him more or less justifying what he said about Jewish and Chinese people.

 

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Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 2.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

I've already made the point once in this thread but what is the difference between insulting the Chinese and Jewish communities which everyone seems up in arms about and insulting the gay community which seems a popular pastime on this forum


 

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Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 2.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

Not saying if i am charged i will resign,Whelen saying he will resign if he is charged is him more or less justifying what he said about Jewish and Chinese people.

Maybe he thinks that people are way to sensitive these days and are far to keen to jump on the bandwagon of condemnation. I would agree with that sentiment. I could be called a honky or a round eye mo fo all day long and I wouldn't bat an eyelid. racial descriptions of that sort just don't bother me and therefore they can't hurt me.

 

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Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 2.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

Not saying if i am charged i will resign,Whelen saying he will resign if he is charged is him more or less justifying what he said about Jewish and Chinese people.


That's a big statement, there will some people offended, there will be some who wuill know what he meant and just thonk of him as a silly old fart and in all likely hood some who won't give it a moments thought.


People make mistakes and whilst that does not excuse what he said, to throw away a lifes work because of poorly phrased interview seems more than a little harsh. As I've said before maybe judge him on his actions rather than his words.

I do wonder why Croydon is such a dump when there are so many perfect people who live in the area.


I never thought I'd see the day I would actually be sticking up for Whelan

 


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Quote sydtheeagle at 24 Nov 2014 11.33am

It amuses me no end that the same board right wingers who were so astoundingly offended by Emily Thornberry's lazy classist remarks last week find Dave Whelan's lazy racist remarks this week so palatable. At least those of us on the left are not hypocrites, and criticise all 'isms not matter the source. Right-wingers, as usual, are not equal opportunity observers.


Try reading everyone's posts. Otherwise you're just being lazy.

Not to mention the hypocrisy of the claim you make.


Edited by Stuk (24 Nov 2014 2.46pm)

 


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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 2.30pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 2.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

Not saying if i am charged i will resign,Whelen saying he will resign if he is charged is him more or less justifying what he said about Jewish and Chinese people.

Maybe he thinks that people are way to sensitive these days and are far to keen to jump on the bandwagon of condemnation. I would agree with that sentiment. I could be called a honky or a round eye mo fo all day long and I wouldn't bat an eyelid. racial descriptions of that sort just don't bother me and therefore they can't hurt me.

I think the whole insult thing tends to jar less if your come from the group that did the 'persecuting and oppressing'. Its more akin to referring to the working class of Rochester as flag waving white van driving mild racists.

The historical context is essential. Which is why it doesn't really affect you when your called a honkie, but call one black bloke in the pub a cotton picking **** and it can turn into something serious


 


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Quote Ian J at 24 Nov 2014 2.17pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 2.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

I've already made the point once in this thread but what is the difference between insulting the Chinese and Jewish communities which everyone seems up in arms about and insulting the gay community which seems a popular pastime on this forum


You slit eyed gas huffing yiddy bumboy.

Or no difference, really, except certain forms of discrimination and abuse are more acceptable socially. All are wrong, obviously.

 


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Quote jamiemartin721 at 24 Nov 2014 2.54pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 2.30pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 2.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

Not saying if i am charged i will resign,Whelen saying he will resign if he is charged is him more or less justifying what he said about Jewish and Chinese people.

Maybe he thinks that people are way to sensitive these days and are far to keen to jump on the bandwagon of condemnation. I would agree with that sentiment. I could be called a honky or a round eye mo fo all day long and I wouldn't bat an eyelid. racial descriptions of that sort just don't bother me and therefore they can't hurt me.

I think the whole insult thing tends to jar less if your come from the group that did the 'persecuting and oppressing'. Its more akin to referring to the working class of Rochester as flag waving white van driving mild racists.

The historical context is essential. Which is why it doesn't really affect you when your called a honkie, but call one black bloke in the pub a cotton picking **** and it can turn into something serious



I've heard that argument many times but how far in the past does this stuff have to be before we let it go ?
Should I still resent Germans, Romans and the French.
Harbouring historical resentment only hurts ones self ultimately.
Anyway didn't we liberate the Jews from Hitler and give them a homeland. And don't we keep many Chinese families in 4x4's by buying sweet and sour chicken balls most weekends. I rest my case.

 

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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 24 Nov 2014 2.30pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 2.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

Not saying if i am charged i will resign,Whelen saying he will resign if he is charged is him more or less justifying what he said about Jewish and Chinese people.


That's a big statement, there will some people offended, there will be some who wuill know what he meant and just thonk of him as a silly old fart and in all likely hood some who won't give it a moments thought.


People make mistakes and whilst that does not excuse what he said, to throw away a lifes work because of poorly phrased interview seems more than a little harsh. As I've said before maybe judge him on his actions rather than his words.

I do wonder why Croydon is such a dump when there are so many perfect people who live in the area.


I never thought I'd see the day I would actually be sticking up for Whelan


Nobody is perfect not you,not me and definitly NOT Dave Whelen,the thing is his comments are in the public eye unlike everyone's comments on here.

his a chairman who the good people off Wigan look up to and respect.

Dave Whelen has let himself and Wigan football club down.

Yes i've lived in Croydon all my life and it's the dump that i love and my CPFC represents the people Croydon and fans around the world including Wales.



 

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I've heard that argument many times but how far in the past does this stuff have to be before we let it go ?
Should I still resent Germans, Romans and the French.
Harbouring historical resentment only hurts ones self ultimately.
Anyway didn't we liberate the Jews from Hitler and give them a homeland. And don't we keep many Chinese families in 4x4's by buying sweet and sour chicken balls most weekends. I rest my case.

There really is no point bothering to engage with level of argument. Dim beyond belief.

 

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Quote buzby1 at 24 Nov 2014 4.45pm


I've heard that argument many times but how far in the past does this stuff have to be before we let it go ?
Should I still resent Germans, Romans and the French.
Harbouring historical resentment only hurts ones self ultimately.
Anyway didn't we liberate the Jews from Hitler and give them a homeland. And don't we keep many Chinese families in 4x4's by buying sweet and sour chicken balls most weekends. I rest my case.

There really is no point bothering to engage with level of argument. Dim beyond belief.


It was intended to be somewhat humorous but if you want to dispute that statement on a historical basis, I'm ready to go.
I notice you didn't highlight the Chinese bit.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Nov 2014 4.54pm)

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Nov 2014 4.55pm)

 

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Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 4.17pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 24 Nov 2014 2.30pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 2.06pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 24 Nov 2014 1.23pm

Quote black eagle. at 24 Nov 2014 1.21pm

The fact that Whelen says he will resign as Wigan chairman is disgusting on his part.

he is more or less saying what i said about Jewish and Chinese people is right.

Your stuck in a time warp Dave and i hope you are charged.

An interesting interpretation. What would you have him do ?


He should resign off course but he should be resigning for offending the entire Chinese and Jewish community.

Not saying if i am charged i will resign,Whelen saying he will resign if he is charged is him more or less justifying what he said about Jewish and Chinese people.


That's a big statement, there will some people offended, there will be some who wuill know what he meant and just thonk of him as a silly old fart and in all likely hood some who won't give it a moments thought.


People make mistakes and whilst that does not excuse what he said, to throw away a lifes work because of poorly phrased interview seems more than a little harsh. As I've said before maybe judge him on his actions rather than his words.

I do wonder why Croydon is such a dump when there are so many perfect people who live in the area.


I never thought I'd see the day I would actually be sticking up for Whelan


Nobody is perfect not you,not me and definitly NOT Dave Whelen,the thing is his comments are in the public eye unlike everyone's comments on here.
his a chairman who the good people off Wigan look up to and respect.

Dave Whelen has let himself and Wigan football club down.

Yes i've lived in Croydon all my life and it's the dump that i love and my CPFC represents the people Croydon and fans around the world including Wales.




So if they weren't it would be ok to say those things? As I have said I do not think what he said was acceptable, whilst you are right he has let himself and his club down, I do think that context, the man himself and numerous other factors should be taken in to consideration before he is hung out to dry.

 


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