A lot of the stories on here, remind me of the 'Battle Inn' on the Oxford road. The only pub I've ever seen with window protection grilles on the inside and outside of the windows.

Lovely place, Irish Traveller Pro-IRA pub. The police would regular just pull up in the carpark with a van of coppers, from about 6pm most nights - Cost effective policing, as almost all the nutbar pub psychos in the area drank there.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Despite Jamie's convoluted explanations of this injustice; Ashers Bakery, gay rights activist Gareth Lee,the Equality Commisssion, Judge Isobel Brownlie, and everyone on HOL - including Jamie, know that the 'judgement' is merely a politically correct pandering to supposed rights of fashionable minorities to override the rights of unfashionable minorities.

Judge Brownlie has form on this - she awarded £5,000 damages to four members of the 'travelling community' when a pub landlord in Newry refused to serve them.

She also threw out the case of a former British army secret agent inside the IRA, who claimed the publication of a photograph of him had endangered his life.

Edited by derben (21 May 2015 11.48am)

Bullsh1t and you know it. Do we not live in a free society where hundreds of thousands of people died for freedom of speach ? all this PC crap and people being forced to change their views, even religious beliefs by law, is utterly utterly wrong.

What next straight blokes have to get bummed just so they can see it from a gay perspective and understand the struggle of gay men ? If I had a cake shop and someone asked me to make an Sein Fein (IRA) cake, I'd tell them to f*** right off out of it same goes for the proddy nutters the UVF, and anyone else I didn’t like its called freedom of choice which is being eroded by the PC Nazis in local government.

I am literally sick of people being made to cow tow to anyone who feels part of a minority; the tail is wagging the dog and no mistake.

Point proven today in parliament, the current lying bastad in the hot seat, says he will pass a bill that foreign workers who have no right to be here will have their money/wages taken from them. You should have heard the supercilious w***ers on the radio phone in, all clamouring to be more right on and PC than the next man.

Someone needs to get a grip of this “cant say boo! to a goose” attitude it is a breeding ground for the weak minded, the soft, and the mentally challenged.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

You not forced to change your views, you are however required to adhere to laws governing the provision of paid services and goods, which stipulate you cannot discriminate or refuse people on the basis of their sexual orientation.

Just like you can't refuse to sell or provided services to people because their black, female or Christian.

And you'd be fine. You don't have to accept someone's business, what you can't do is break a contract with someone because you change your mind later. Its perfectly legal and ok to say 'I'm sorry, we don't do political messages'.

Once you enter a contract, you can only terminate it through fulfillment of agreed clauses. Your political beliefs or personal belief or religious beliefs are not grounds for breaking a contract.

If you're then stupid enough to say its 'because you don't support gay marriage' in the press and ally yourself with causes that have notorious been against any gay rights, you shouldn't be surprised that goes against you in court.

They're not though are they, they're being made to comply with the law, that essentially states you cannot discriminate against UK citizens in business and forced to abide by Contract law.

Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Since when did having religion translate as the right to discriminate against people buying or ordering cakes? Is that in the bible?

No, its another bunch in society who get their knickers in a twist and hysterical when something doesn't go their way, and cry about how oppressed they are by having to abide by the same rules and laws as everyone else.

I'm radical, I'd deport them and then fine the people who employed them five times the annual salary of the employee for each year they'd worked there. I can't answer for the kind of people who phone in on radio shows.

Then again, I'd also implement work programs and mandatory language courses for successful asylum applicants, before they transitioned to being citizens.

In my experience they tend to be pricks, wind up merchants and people who watch daytime tv.

I think its generally called expecting people to be somewhat considerate of other people. Not sure that breaking contract law and discriminating against someone on the grounds of their sexual orientation is actually the same as saying 'boo to a goose'.

I mean what's the world coming to when businesses are required not to discriminate against their customers and treat UK citizens as UK citizens.

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It is the gay rights activist and the judge in Northern Ireland who are being unreasonable.

But where's the fun in that when we can use outlier examples to suggest that whole groups of people should consider living apart from everyone else? .

Historically Mormonism has had issues with black people. Would people here be jumping to someones defense if they refused to serve a black person because it was 'against their beliefs'? If you think it's fine to go back to 'No Blacks' signs in hotel windows and the like then by all means have a problem with this too. If you don't then accept that businesses are there to provide services to the whole community.

Edited by imbored (21 May 2015 5.26pm)