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Quote TheJudge at 04 Jun 2015 12.08pm
I think this sort of question is better aimed at someone like Stephen Dawkins. Human behavior generally serves the gene directly or indirectly he would probably say.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 04 Jun 15 1.42pm |
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Quote dannyh at 04 Jun 2015 1.32pm
I dont think it's soley because of skin colour Mad old buddy, more a case of if you've come to a club looking like a memeber of the Crips, then chances are you will get "jog on sunshine". Its hard not to stereo type people when they constantly play up to that stereo type, and indeed in some cases try to emmulate the Gangsta look, and then are totally gobsmacked/surprised/outraged when they get pulled over/refused entry. I know all about dont read a book by its cover, but when so very many books have the same content as covers it's hard not to assume they are all the same. Edited by dannyh (04 Jun 2015 1.33pm) No mate, I mean people being told "you're not on the guestlist" or "not tonight" when they were and dressed appropriately or "we're at capacity" but actually not, and those that "fit the quota" being let in. I've been on the other side of it, stood next to the girl holding the guestlist and her having to tell them they can't come in, on order from the bouncers, who were following the club's orders. A mate of mine, who is black, has had to lie to is mates on why they can't come in, to avoid any drama. No one dresses like "The Crips" or a gangsta in the West End, you're probably thinking South London It's happened to me only once, but if a business doesn't want my money, I'm not going to beg them or cry racism, more fool them really.
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 04 Jun 15 1.44pm |
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Quote Superfly at 04 Jun 2015 1.37pm
Quote TheJudge at 04 Jun 2015 12.08pm
I think this sort of question is better aimed at someone like Stephen Dawkins. Human behavior generally serves the gene directly or indirectly he would probably say.
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| TheJudge 04 Jun 15 1.47pm |
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Quote Superfly at 04 Jun 2015 1.37pm
Quote TheJudge at 04 Jun 2015 12.08pm
I think this sort of question is better aimed at someone like Stephen Dawkins. Human behavior generally serves the gene directly or indirectly he would probably say.
Lol. Egg on face. You know I meant Richard Dawkins.
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| TheJudge 04 Jun 15 1.51pm |
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Quote The Sash at 04 Jun 2015 1.44pm
Quote Superfly at 04 Jun 2015 1.37pm
Quote TheJudge at 04 Jun 2015 12.08pm
I think this sort of question is better aimed at someone like Stephen Dawkins. Human behavior generally serves the gene directly or indirectly he would probably say.
Ahem ! That's Stephen Hawking. He was probably too busy appearing on The Big Bang Theory to take you call. The old attention seeker.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 04 Jun 15 1.55pm |
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Quote suicideatselhurst at 04 Jun 2015 1.37pm
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Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 1.13pm
No, it's not. A saw a story earlier with some black men (including someone from The Voice that i've never watched, but that somehow lends credibility to the assumption) complaining about being refused entry to nightclubs because, in their opinion, of their skin colour. I must've looked black a few times when I was younger if that's the case...
Again, no. This happens. Even to sober, mild-mannered people. Clubs in the West end don't want to many non-white clientelle, purely for their image. Plenty about it on Google if you do a simple search:
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Jun 15 2.15pm |
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Quote madcap_v2 at 04 Jun 2015 1.55pm
Quote suicideatselhurst at 04 Jun 2015 1.37pm
Quote madcap_v2 at 04 Jun 2015 1.27pm
Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 1.13pm
No, it's not. A saw a story earlier with some black men (including someone from The Voice that i've never watched, but that somehow lends credibility to the assumption) complaining about being refused entry to nightclubs because, in their opinion, of their skin colour. I must've looked black a few times when I was younger if that's the case...
Again, no. This happens. Even to sober, mild-mannered people. Clubs in the West end don't want to many non-white clientelle, purely for their image. Plenty about it on Google if you do a simple search:
Why where you looking at mums net ? dirty boy.
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| derben 04 Jun 15 2.37pm |
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Quote serial thriller at 04 Jun 2015 11.23am
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Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 10.40pm
I'm not saying that racism is the sole reason for anything. There are many, many forms of discrimination which are embroiled within society, and all of them should be tackled. What I'm saying is that racism remains prevalent within British society, and leads us to tolerate unimaginable harm and suffering to people in the poorest of conditions. I wouldn't even say that racism is the issue itself: it is the justification for us turning a blind eye to, for example, slavery in China, mass-murder in the middle east or even incarceration in Britain. The beautiful thing about politics is it gives you an avenue to help people who for one reason or other can't help themselves. That could be a disabled person who can't work being provided for by the state so they can lead a dignified life, or a child in a third world country being given a decent education. That's why when I see those people drowning in the mediterranean and our society's primary concern being ourselves I despair, because if we were in their position, we would be desperate for help. People die in horrible ways everyday unseen or seen from a camera....Are they helped? Seeing dead children in the Mediterranean is no doubt a disaster as is a child unseen starving to death....But it is by no means the responsibility of anyone here. Most people only feel responsible for what is in their sphere of influence. Then why do people feel so passionately about immigration, or global warming, considering that both things are outside of their sphere of influence? The anniversary of 9/11 is still a day of significant commemoration, not just in America but in Britain too. Yet more people have died in the Mediterranean already this year than died that day. So why is one seen as so more relevant and personal than the other? You're far more likely to drown than be killed by a terrorist, so the argument that it represents more of a threat to individual security is nonsense. Of course race plays a role in how people regard tragedy.
This is an incredibly stupid statement, even for you serial. To suggest that somehow the drownings of some illegal immigrants in the Med is as much a security risk to us than western hating terrorists flying planes into buildings, blowing up trains and buses and hacking people to death in the street, is simply breathtaking.
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| Steptoe 04 Jun 15 2.40pm |
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Quote madcap_v2 at 04 Jun 2015 1.55pm
Quote suicideatselhurst at 04 Jun 2015 1.37pm
Quote madcap_v2 at 04 Jun 2015 1.27pm
Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 1.13pm
No, it's not. A saw a story earlier with some black men (including someone from The Voice that i've never watched, but that somehow lends credibility to the assumption) complaining about being refused entry to nightclubs because, in their opinion, of their skin colour. I must've looked black a few times when I was younger if that's the case...
Again, no. This happens. Even to sober, mild-mannered people. Clubs in the West end don't want to many non-white clientelle, purely for their image. Plenty about it on Google if you do a simple search:
Yes, I'll have to show my black mates this club utopia where the only reason they wouldn't be allowed entry is if they're dressed like 2pac or are pissed up. The reality says otherwise. Not to say that there aren't clubs where being white could bring you the same outcome. Human stupidity knows no bounds.
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| suicideatselhurst crawley 04 Jun 15 2.43pm |
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Quote dannyh at 04 Jun 2015 2.15pm
Quote madcap_v2 at 04 Jun 2015 1.55pm
Quote suicideatselhurst at 04 Jun 2015 1.37pm
Quote madcap_v2 at 04 Jun 2015 1.27pm
Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 1.13pm
No, it's not. A saw a story earlier with some black men (including someone from The Voice that i've never watched, but that somehow lends credibility to the assumption) complaining about being refused entry to nightclubs because, in their opinion, of their skin colour. I must've looked black a few times when I was younger if that's the case...
Again, no. This happens. Even to sober, mild-mannered people. Clubs in the West end don't want to many non-white clientelle, purely for their image. Plenty about it on Google if you do a simple search:
Why where you looking at mums net ? dirty boy.
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| madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 04 Jun 15 3.02pm |
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Quote dannyh at 04 Jun 2015 2.15pm
Quote madcap_v2 at 04 Jun 2015 1.55pm
Quote suicideatselhurst at 04 Jun 2015 1.37pm
Quote madcap_v2 at 04 Jun 2015 1.27pm
Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 1.13pm
No, it's not. A saw a story earlier with some black men (including someone from The Voice that i've never watched, but that somehow lends credibility to the assumption) complaining about being refused entry to nightclubs because, in their opinion, of their skin colour. I must've looked black a few times when I was younger if that's the case...
Again, no. This happens. Even to sober, mild-mannered people. Clubs in the West end don't want to many non-white clientelle, purely for their image. Plenty about it on Google if you do a simple search:
Why where you looking at mums net ? dirty boy.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Jun 15 3.08pm |
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Quote dannyh at 04 Jun 2015 1.32pm
I dont think it's soley because of skin colour Mad old buddy, more a case of if you've come to a club looking like a memeber of the Crips, then chances are you will get "jog on sunshine". Its hard not to stereo type people when they constantly play up to that stereo type, and indeed in some cases try to emmulate the Gangsta look, and then are totally gobsmacked/surprised/outraged when they get pulled over/refused entry. I know all about dont read a book by its cover, but when so very many books have the same content as covers it's hard not to assume they are all the same. Edited by dannyh (04 Jun 2015 1.33pm) I think its a general truth that most nightclub bouncers operate a 'if they don't fit in, they don't come in policy' to avoid trouble later (not necessarily started by the person they turn away, often because some c**t will probably start something).
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