Is Britain a racist country?
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 susmik  PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 03 Jun 15 5.01pm |
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It seems that we are not the only country with Muslim problems.... Edited by susmik (03 Jun 2015 5.02pm)
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| ghosteagle 03 Jun 15 5.03pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 03 Jun 2015 3.06pm
Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 3.01pm
Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jun 2015 1.49pm
Quote The Sash at 03 Jun 2015 1.15pm
Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 1.13pm
No, it's not. A saw a story earlier with some black men (including someone from The Voice that i've never watched, but that somehow lends credibility to the assumption) complaining about being refused entry to nightclubs because, in their opinion, of their skin colour. I must've looked black a few times when I was younger if that's the case... I saw that earlier and did smirk - If I had a pound for everywhere I have been refused entry to I would be a pretty rich man
I wouldn't be surprised to find that black people might find it difficult to get into certain nightclubs, certainly I'm pretty sure that in certain parts of the country there are venues where being white might be grounds for exclusion. What we all need to do, is avoid these places at all costs. Avoiding nightclubs of all descriptions is a rule to live your life by.
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| TheJudge 03 Jun 15 7.41pm |
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Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jun 2015 5.03pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 03 Jun 2015 3.06pm
Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 3.01pm
Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jun 2015 1.49pm
Quote The Sash at 03 Jun 2015 1.15pm
Quote Stuk at 03 Jun 2015 1.13pm
No, it's not. A saw a story earlier with some black men (including someone from The Voice that i've never watched, but that somehow lends credibility to the assumption) complaining about being refused entry to nightclubs because, in their opinion, of their skin colour. I must've looked black a few times when I was younger if that's the case... I saw that earlier and did smirk - If I had a pound for everywhere I have been refused entry to I would be a pretty rich man
I wouldn't be surprised to find that black people might find it difficult to get into certain nightclubs, certainly I'm pretty sure that in certain parts of the country there are venues where being white might be grounds for exclusion. What we all need to do, is avoid these places at all costs. Avoiding nightclubs of all descriptions is a rule to live your life by. Perhaps, but an even better rule is avoid the up themselves muppets that mod the BBS and their clique friends. They are obsessed with "former posters" and wonder why those posters have resigned with multiple usernames after they got banned for nothing in the first place and continue to get banned simply for rejoining. It really does take people of incredible stupidity not to be able to figure why those people keep rejoining and consequently have many former usernames. It would also be impossible for the mods to actually justify why those people were banned the first time because that would involve producing actual genuine evidence to back up their actions. Enough said. Back to topic.
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| TUX redhill 03 Jun 15 8.27pm |
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Is Britain a racist country? Every country is racist. Apart from the fact that 'Britain' is not a country, England is no better or worse than any other imo.
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corkery  Cork City 03 Jun 15 9.22pm |
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There's a difference between racism and questioning 2,000 people in Calais trying to get to the UK.
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| Jamesrichards8 03 Jun 15 10.40pm |
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If Britain became any more tolerant we'd be foreign. Seriously though, the country needs to start focusing less on issues like racism and more on important matters such as environmental issues. We are commuting far greater atrocities to our planet than we are to eachother. Besides you can't expect to move to a foreign country and be treated the same as if you were born here. It doesn't happen to whites moving abroad so it shouldn't happen to foreigners in the west.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 03 Jun 15 10.40pm |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 03 Jun 2015 1.38pm
Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 1.09pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 03 Jun 2015 12.56pm
Britain isn't a racist country. There are some people within the UK that are racist, but that's not a country - You'll find small narrow minded hateful people in most countries.
We are complicit in suffering, be it Chinese workers who make ur electronics, the bombing of Libya influencing the price of our oil, even the repression of local farmers in South America so our middle classes can eat quinoa. We relieve ourselves of guilt in many ways. We point to everyone else doing likewise, the improvements being made in helping these people. But a fundamental justification for our actions remains an idea of racial or national dominance which is pervasive in our very language and customs. Look at how the government are currently promoting 'British values' in schools, whatever they are. Look at the willing ignorance of Islamic culture and its infinite diversity, yet the widespread belief that Islam promotes hatred/extremism. Look at the reaction to the London riots, with even one of our most prominent historians on national television claiming it was due to 'white people becoming black'. The results of this underlying racial understanding is clear for all to see (look at the police's stop and search numbers, the colour of British prisons etc.), but the idea that Britain remains a country which is built upon racism is far more difficult.
IF you take all the world ills, from poverty to war to injustice, and then say they are down to "racism" don't you: 1. oversimplify the world's problems (I think economics, history and culture play a bit of a role too, don't you?) ? I'm not saying that racism is the sole reason for anything. There are many, many forms of discrimination which are embroiled within society, and all of them should be tackled. What I'm saying is that racism remains prevalent within British society, and leads us to tolerate unimaginable harm and suffering to people in the poorest of conditions. I wouldn't even say that racism is the issue itself: it is the justification for us turning a blind eye to, for example, slavery in China, mass-murder in the middle east or even incarceration in Britain. The beautiful thing about politics is it gives you an avenue to help people who for one reason or other can't help themselves. That could be a disabled person who can't work being provided for by the state so they can lead a dignified life, or a child in a third world country being given a decent education. That's why when I see those people drowning in the mediterranean and our society's primary concern being ourselves I despair, because if we were in their position, we would be desperate for help.
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| legaleagle 03 Jun 15 11.07pm |
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Quote derben at 03 Jun 2015 1.00pm
Quote Mr Fenandes at 03 Jun 2015 12.52pm
Quote derben at 03 Jun 2015 12.34pm
People prefer to live with people who share the same language, racial characteristics, religion and culture. Always have and always will. Eastern European women. Scandinavian women. Not the same religion, culture or language. Makes absolutely no odds to the fact that 90% of them are outrageously attractive. If you want to let the aforementioned list restrict you from those potential delights, you're seriously missing out. Usually the same religion, Christian. Same sort of culture, drink alcohol, dress in a western manner (and I don't mean cowboy outfits). Generally share the same culture and the vast majority speak English. Racially indistinguishable. Edited by derben (03 Jun 2015 1.11pm)
Edited by legaleagle (03 Jun 2015 11.09pm)
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| Stirlingsays Online 04 Jun 15 1.56am |
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Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 10.40pm
I'm not saying that racism is the sole reason for anything. There are many, many forms of discrimination which are embroiled within society, and all of them should be tackled. What I'm saying is that racism remains prevalent within British society, and leads us to tolerate unimaginable harm and suffering to people in the poorest of conditions. I wouldn't even say that racism is the issue itself: it is the justification for us turning a blind eye to, for example, slavery in China, mass-murder in the middle east or even incarceration in Britain. The beautiful thing about politics is it gives you an avenue to help people who for one reason or other can't help themselves. That could be a disabled person who can't work being provided for by the state so they can lead a dignified life, or a child in a third world country being given a decent education. That's why when I see those people drowning in the mediterranean and our society's primary concern being ourselves I despair, because if we were in their position, we would be desperate for help. People die in horrible ways everyday unseen or seen from a camera....Are they helped? Seeing dead children in the Mediterranean is no doubt a disaster as is a child unseen starving to death....But it is by no means the responsibility of anyone here. Most people only feel responsible for what is in their sphere of influence.
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| npn Crowborough 04 Jun 15 7.32am |
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Is the country racist? Clearly not - laws are in place to ensure it is not so. Are there racist people living in the country? Absolutely, as there are in any country the world over.
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| TheJudge 04 Jun 15 9.15am |
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What we have is a country where a significant minority think they are in a position to cast moral judgment on behalf of others. Your Liberal/left if you like. They are more preoccupied with the plight of others,or at least like to give that impression to claim the fashionable moral high ground, than themselves and their families. People of other races and nations can look after themselves and there are laws that try to enforce fairness. I'm sure the vast majority of them don't spend their time fretting over the plight of the white man or the British. Why should they ? "Racism" is currently a vehicle by which people pursue self interest and the liberals feel superior. In terms of genuine racism and bigotry,Britain doesn't even register on the chart. Edited by TheJudge (04 Jun 2015 9.15am)
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Johnny Eagles  berlin 04 Jun 15 9.19am |
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Quote serial thriller at 03 Jun 2015 10.40pm
I'm not saying that racism is the sole reason for anything. There are many, many forms of discrimination which are embroiled within society, and all of them should be tackled. What I'm saying is that racism remains prevalent within British society, and leads us to tolerate unimaginable harm and suffering to people in the poorest of conditions. I wouldn't even say that racism is the issue itself: it is the justification for us turning a blind eye to, for example, slavery in China, mass-murder in the middle east or even incarceration in Britain. The beautiful thing about politics is it gives you an avenue to help people who for one reason or other can't help themselves. That could be a disabled person who can't work being provided for by the state so they can lead a dignified life, or a child in a third world country being given a decent education. That's why when I see those people drowning in the mediterranean and our society's primary concern being ourselves I despair, because if we were in their position, we would be desperate for help. Have you not just contradicted yourself there? Is racism the issue or isn't it? To take your three examples: 1. Slavery in China Do we, as a country, "tolerate" these things at all? I'm not sure we do. We disapprove of slavery in China. It's just pretty difficult for us to do anything about it. Is it your average British punter "enslaving" the Chinese, or is it their communist government and repressive "Hukou" system? If Chinese people are enslaving other Chinese people, how is that evidence that Britain is racist? We definitely disapprove of murder in the middle east. Well, the stuff done by our enemies (eg, IS). The stuff done by our allies (eg, public beheadings in Saudi Arabia) we turn a blind eye to because we want to sell them weapons. But again, is this racism? Or is it just Realpolitik? I think you have a utopian vision of a world where there is no poverty, war or injustice. And, like most Utopians, you're seeking simple answers. If only Britain wasn't "structurally" racist, we'd all live in a rainbow world with everybody holding hands, eh?
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