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Seth On a pale blue dot 26 Jul 15 1.58am
Greetings, I'm from the 21st Century. You lot are fcking mental. Returns to time machine, gratefully* "You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down" FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16
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On a pale blue dot 26 Jul 15 1.58am

Greetings, I'm from the 21st Century.

You lot are f*cking mental.

*Returns to time machine, gratefully*

"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
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leggedstruggle Croydon 26 Jul 15 8.33am
Quote Seth at 26 Jul 2015 1.58am Greetings, I'm from the 21st Century. You lot are fcking mental. Returns to time machine, gratefully* Don't you know it is the fifteenth century infidel. One of the many reasons for Islamic extremism is that Muslims are forced to call this year of 1436, 2015. Surely the time has come, in this day and age, to have both years on all documents, websites, media, etc? Edited by leggedstruggle (26 Jul 2015 8.36am) mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Croydon 26 Jul 15 8.33am

Quote Seth at 26 Jul 2015 1.58am

Greetings, I'm from the 21st Century.

You lot are f*cking mental.

*Returns to time machine, gratefully*

Don't you know it is the fifteenth century infidel. One of the many reasons for Islamic extremism is that Muslims are forced to call this year of 1436, 2015. Surely the time has come, in this day and age, to have both years on all documents, websites, media, etc?

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becky over the moon 26 Jul 15 8.50am
Quote Boooo at 25 Jul 2015 11.37pm People miss the point about the troubles around third World countries. The tribal elders have every say and while they continue to have a backward attitude and hate for everything that doesn't suit them, they'll never like the Western World. We could learn loads off them though. Whenever my Mrs gets lippy i could beat her to death. I could sell my 10 year old Daughter to some first cousin who will marry her and immediately want to start a family. Women accused (not even found guilty) can be stoned to death for any crime. Thieves have hands chopped off. I could go on and on but there'd be a chance that i could get into trouble with the Sharia Police (they are real and up and running among the Muslim community). I've not even mentioned Africa. But only if you sent her 'home' at 9 years old to have her genitalia hacked off with a rusty razor blade or sliver of glass......you'd get a much bigger dowry that way. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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Quote Boooo at 25 Jul 2015 11.37pm

People miss the point about the troubles around third World countries. The tribal elders have every say and while they continue to have a backward attitude and hate for everything that doesn't suit them, they'll never like the Western World.

We could learn loads off them though. Whenever my Mrs gets lippy i could beat her to death.
I could sell my 10 year old Daughter to some first cousin who will marry her and immediately want to start a family.
Women accused (not even found guilty) can be stoned to death for any crime.
Thieves have hands chopped off.

I could go on and on but there'd be a chance that i could get into trouble with the Sharia Police (they are real and up and running among the Muslim community).

I've not even mentioned Africa.

But only if you sent her 'home' at 9 years old to have her genitalia hacked off with a rusty razor blade or sliver of glass......you'd get a much bigger dowry that way.

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Boooo 26 Jul 15 9.08am
Quote becky at 26 Jul 2015 8.50am Quote Boooo at 25 Jul 2015 11.37pm People miss the point about the troubles around third World countries. The tribal elders have every say and while they continue to have a backward attitude and hate for everything that doesn't suit them, they'll never like the Western World. We could learn loads off them though. Whenever my Mrs gets lippy i could beat her to death. I could sell my 10 year old Daughter to some first cousin who will marry her and immediately want to start a family. Women accused (not even found guilty) can be stoned to death for any crime. Thieves have hands chopped off. I could go on and on but there'd be a chance that i could get into trouble with the Sharia Police (they are real and up and running among the Muslim community). I've not even mentioned Africa. But only if you sent her 'home' at 9 years old to have her genitalia hacked off with a rusty razor blade or sliver of glass......you'd get a much bigger dowry that way. FGM and facial tribal markings I refuse to believe there are that many people out there that can't spell. Too f**king lazy, that's what I think.
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26 Jul 15 9.08am

Quote becky at 26 Jul 2015 8.50am

Quote Boooo at 25 Jul 2015 11.37pm

I could go on and on but there'd be a chance that i could get into trouble with the Sharia Police (they are real and up and running among the Muslim community).

I've not even mentioned Africa.

But only if you sent her 'home' at 9 years old to have her genitalia hacked off with a rusty razor blade or sliver of glass......you'd get a much bigger dowry that way.

FGM and facial tribal markings

I refuse to believe there are that many people out there that can't spell. Too f**king lazy, that's what I think.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 26 Jul 15 9.13am
Somebody earlier said its "their right" to be able to come here. Possibly it is, but it's not their right to come here illegally, claim benefits & get a free house. There's even an immigrant campsite in Calais full of people waiting to get on the great british gravy train. I bet if I wanted to go & live in one of their countries I wouldn't get the lifestyle they do...which I suppose is the point really. You should have to have a british passport to be able to claim benefits in our country. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Somebody earlier said its "their right" to be able to come here.

Possibly it is, but it's not their right to come here illegally, claim benefits & get a free house.

There's even an immigrant campsite in Calais full of people waiting to get on the great british gravy train.

I bet if I wanted to go & live in one of their countries I wouldn't get the lifestyle they do...which I suppose is the point really.

You should have to have a british passport to be able to claim benefits in our country.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 26 Jul 15 9.24am
What I don’t understand is this. To enter either the UK or France can be done one of 2 ways. Legally (with a visa) or illegally (without) If a migrant has a visa then happy days, they can stay, live, work, etc, basically abide by the terms of their visa. If someone does not have a visa and they are here illegally then their only option is to claim asylum. Asylum should be claimed for at the fist safe haven, you should not be able to cross another 10 borders (travelling with no legal status to be in that country) and then choose where to claim asylum. Basically all the migrants at Calais are living there with no legal status to be in the country as all are wanting to make it to the UK before lodging an appeal. If all we do is every time these guys are found entering the backs of trucks etc. is to throw them back to the side of the road then where is the deterrent? They should be picked up as being illegals and deported at that point. People in other countries must laugh at us, imagine if a bunch of us smuggled ourselves into Australia and went round harassing lorry drivers etc. We would be picked up by the authorities and put in detention pens and then flown home. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 26 Jul 15 9.24am

What I don’t understand is this. To enter either the UK or France can be done one of 2 ways. Legally (with a visa) or illegally (without) If a migrant has a visa then happy days, they can stay, live, work, etc, basically abide by the terms of their visa.
If someone does not have a visa and they are here illegally then their only option is to claim asylum. Asylum should be claimed for at the fist safe haven, you should not be able to cross another 10 borders (travelling with no legal status to be in that country) and then choose where to claim asylum.
Basically all the migrants at Calais are living there with no legal status to be in the country as all are wanting to make it to the UK before lodging an appeal.
If all we do is every time these guys are found entering the backs of trucks etc. is to throw them back to the side of the road then where is the deterrent? They should be picked up as being illegals and deported at that point.
People in other countries must laugh at us, imagine if a bunch of us smuggled ourselves into Australia and went round harassing lorry drivers etc. We would be picked up by the authorities and put in detention pens and then flown home.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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serial thriller The Promised Land 26 Jul 15 10.10am
Quote Pussay Patrol at 25 Jul 2015 10.30pm Don't forget we invade and bomb these foreign countries, IS filled the vacuum during the anarchy caused by our decision to depose Sadaam. We can't turn a blind eye to the humanitarian crisis which has our finger prints all over it Basically, this. Unusual for me and PP to agree but there you go. The top two countries from which these people are fleeing are Libya and Eritrea. In Libya, we supported Gaddafi, before funding his opposition and bombing it to fck, of course. In Eritrea, they are being bombed by Ethiopian bombs which we have supplied, deployed by a government whom we are friendly with. Obviously there are also many migrants from Syria and Iraq, a region in which our foreign policy has been most active in for the past 30 years. In some cases, our role in these poor souls' lives equates to little more than providing the bombs to destroy their homes, supporting the despots who wish to kill them, then sinking their ships when they flee from tyranny and (irony of all ironies!) labelling them* as the dangerous ones infiltrating our lives with the intention of causing misery. Sadly, as this thread shows, there is an ignorance in British foreign affairs which sees absolutely no hypocrisy in the above facts. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Quote Pussay Patrol at 25 Jul 2015 10.30pm

Don't forget we invade and bomb these foreign countries, IS filled the vacuum during the anarchy caused by our decision to depose Sadaam.

We can't turn a blind eye to the humanitarian crisis which has our finger prints all over it

Basically, this. Unusual for me and PP to agree but there you go.

The top two countries from which these people are fleeing are Libya and Eritrea. In Libya, we supported Gaddafi, before funding his opposition and bombing it to f*ck, of course. In Eritrea, they are being bombed by Ethiopian bombs which we have supplied, deployed by a government whom we are friendly with.

Obviously there are also many migrants from Syria and Iraq, a region in which our foreign policy has been most active in for the past 30 years. In some cases, our role in these poor souls' lives equates to little more than providing the bombs to destroy their homes, supporting the despots who wish to kill them, then sinking their ships when they flee from tyranny and (irony of all ironies!) labelling them as the dangerous ones infiltrating our lives with the intention of causing misery.

Sadly, as this thread shows, there is an ignorance in British foreign affairs which sees absolutely no hypocrisy in the above facts.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 26 Jul 15 10.21am
Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then? "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 26 Jul 15 10.21am

Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then?

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leggedstruggle Croydon 26 Jul 15 10.25am
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 10.21am Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then? How about sending them to the richest country in the world - Qatar? mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Croydon 26 Jul 15 10.25am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 10.21am

Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then?

How about sending them to the richest country in the world - Qatar?

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Stirlingsays 26 Jul 15 10.30am
Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 10.10am Sadly, as this thread shows, there is an ignorance in British foreign affairs which sees absolutely no hypocrisy in the above facts. There is no hypocrisy or ignorance. There is a fundamental disagreement with the idea that we are responsible for what happens within a country after we leave it. In fact the very idea is ridiculous when you consider the events that have happened after we have left many countries.....Millions died after we left India and so on. Your logic would have us do what exactly.....bankrupt ourselves by throwing money at unsolvable problems. Or most probably the 'don't get involved in the first place'.....Yeah really worked out in Syria didn't it.....A country with no intervention that's at war...A war that isn't only with IS but with many groups, even the free Syria Army. Islamic State itself would have never grown to what it is if we hadn't along with America taken troops out of Iraq. As for the Iraqi war....That was Bush's baby and the country and events would always going to go this way once those towers came down......We rightly went where the Americans went. It's the stupidity of the left...With their constant, 'leave, leave' that's enabled Islamic State to grow as large as it has. None of them want to recognise that through.....They would rather rant on about the original war event....An occurrence we had no influence over once Bush had decided he was going in. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2015 10.30am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 10.10am

Sadly, as this thread shows, there is an ignorance in British foreign affairs which sees absolutely no hypocrisy in the above facts.

There is no hypocrisy or ignorance.

There is a fundamental disagreement with the idea that we are responsible for what happens within a country after we leave it.

In fact the very idea is ridiculous when you consider the events that have happened after we have left many countries.....Millions died after we left India and so on.

Your logic would have us do what exactly.....bankrupt ourselves by throwing money at unsolvable problems.

Or most probably the 'don't get involved in the first place'.....Yeah really worked out in Syria didn't it.....A country with no intervention that's at war...A war that isn't only with IS but with many groups, even the free Syria Army.

Islamic State itself would have never grown to what it is if we hadn't along with America taken troops out of Iraq.

As for the Iraqi war....That was Bush's baby and the country and events would always going to go this way once those towers came down......We rightly went where the Americans went.

It's the stupidity of the left...With their constant, 'leave, leave' that's enabled Islamic State to grow as large as it has.

None of them want to recognise that through.....They would rather rant on about the original war event....An occurrence we had no influence over once Bush had decided he was going in.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2015 10.30am)

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Hoof Hearted 26 Jul 15 10.46am
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 9.24am What I don’t understand is this. To enter either the UK or France can be done one of 2 ways. Legally (with a visa) or illegally (without) If a migrant has a visa then happy days, they can stay, live, work, etc, basically abide by the terms of their visa. If someone does not have a visa and they are here illegally then their only option is to claim asylum. Asylum should be claimed for at the fist safe haven, you should not be able to cross another 10 borders (travelling with no legal status to be in that country) and then choose where to claim asylum. Basically all the migrants at Calais are living there with no legal status to be in the country as all are wanting to make it to the UK before lodging an appeal. If all we do is every time these guys are found entering the backs of trucks etc. is to throw them back to the side of the road then where is the deterrent? They should be picked up as being illegals and deported at that point. People in other countries must laugh at us, imagine if a bunch of us smuggled ourselves into Australia and went round harassing lorry drivers etc. We would be picked up by the authorities and put in detention pens and then flown home. Well said Tom.
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Hoof Hearted 26 Jul 15 10.46am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 9.24am

Well said Tom.

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Catfish Burgess Hill 26 Jul 15 10.56am
People wonder why the French police stand off and don't do anything. The answer is simple, if they arrest any of the migrants they would have to fingerprint them. Once they are on the official record the French cannot deny they were in the country. Once the migrants get to UK they can then be identified and sent back to France in line with international conventions. The migrants have been reported as saying that they must avoid being fingerprinted before they get to the UK at all costs and that is the reason. The French are operating a del estate policy of channelling the problem in our direction and I am surprised that nobody has picked up on this obvious fact. Yes, I am an agent of Satan but my duties are largely ceremonial
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Burgess Hill 26 Jul 15 10.56am

People wonder why the French police stand off and don't do anything. The answer is simple, if they arrest any of the migrants they would have to fingerprint them. Once they are on the official record the French cannot deny they were in the country. Once the migrants get to UK they can then be identified and sent back to France in line with international conventions. The migrants have been reported as saying that they must avoid being fingerprinted before they get to the UK at all costs and that is the reason.
The French are operating a del estate policy of channelling the problem in our direction and I am surprised that nobody has picked up on this obvious fact.

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