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Stirlingsays 26 Jul 15 12.32pm
Never underestimate the ability of the egalitarian left to spend taxpayer money on unsolvable problems. When the welfare system was created.....It wasn't aimed at solving outside problems. The system has been abused since the seventies. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2015 12.34pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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26 Jul 15 12.32pm

Never underestimate the ability of the egalitarian left to spend taxpayer money on unsolvable problems.

When the welfare system was created.....It wasn't aimed at solving outside problems.

The system has been abused since the seventies.

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johnfirewall 26 Jul 15 12.37pm
Yeah but some of them actually work and boost the economy... They only do the jobs that Brits won't, because the Brits get paid not to. Cut the bull about fleeing war and persecution as well. They've come from Calais FFS. It's not like they've got a ticket and there's an obligation to allow them to complete their journey to the UK but I'm sure the French are happy to let them. Edited by johnfirewall (26 Jul 2015 12.40pm)
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Yeah but some of them actually work and boost the economy...

They only do the jobs that Brits won't, because the Brits get paid not to.

Cut the bull about fleeing war and persecution as well. They've come from Calais FFS.

It's not like they've got a ticket and there's an obligation to allow them to complete their journey to the UK but I'm sure the French are happy to let them.

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serial thriller The Promised Land 26 Jul 15 12.45pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 26 Jul 2015 12.27pm Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 11.45am So would you be able to sleep at night knowing that you would have effectively sent thousands to their deaths rather than trying to provide basic support for them? Children born to a state are that state's and that family's responsibility. This country is already massively over generous to outside aid....An unpopular policy, which is direct from the British taxpayer....We pay out more compared to the vast majority of the world. There is nothing, of course, stopping you from giving all you own to outside aid. Maybe it is you who should find it difficult to sleep at night....Because it is you who hold these convictions. Maybe you should be out there doing aid....I'd respect that. Wealthy nations should look to help and advise poorer ones.....What they shouldn't and frankly can't do is take their people. A state's responsibility should be towards their own poor.....Everytime you increase dependency you worsen what's here for our own working poor, ill people or unemployed. Also why only help the ones who get here?.....Why aren't you sending large cheques overseas to all those poorer, older or iller individuals you couldn't afford the ticket onto the boat? There's a hypocrisy overwise......The logical argument is endless. British taxpayers have a right to expect their money to go towards British problems. If you think that is selfish....Then be assured that this is the world you were born into. You can be different but don't expect or moan about others not following you. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2015 12.28pm) That is an astounding claim Stirling, and suggests a devotion to the concept of the nation state which is almost religious. If you live in Northern Iraq, or Eastern Syria, your state - as in who claims authority over you - will almost definitely have changed at least twice in your lifetime. You will also most probably have lost a family member to one of the civil wars that have ensued in your state. What you are saying would have truly revolutionary consequences on people's lives. If you were Jewish but you were born in Nazi Germany, are you to accept the responsibility of that state in handling you and hope for no external intevention? If you were a freedman in Haiti after the Haitian revolution, do you still remain the French state's responsibility because you were born in chains in one of its colonies? Likewise, if you are a child now born in the region controlled by IS, are you saying you have absolutely no right to expect help from the outside world, even if it condemnds you to a life of rape, forced marriage, violence and seclusion? Your point on why I'm not out there helping is particularly bonkers. I don't have the money to get a flight to Syria, let alone finance an aid mission, and that's why I do what I can within the environment around me: discuss it with people, support people who I see are trying to help, and of course waste hours of my life on a football forum debating in detail what UK foreign policy should be. I think that was actually Nelson Mandela's background before going in to politics too! If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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So would you be able to sleep at night knowing that you would have effectively sent thousands to their deaths rather than trying to provide basic support for them?

Children born to a state are that state's and that family's responsibility.

This country is already massively over generous to outside aid....An unpopular policy, which is direct from the British taxpayer....We pay out more compared to the vast majority of the world.

There is nothing, of course, stopping you from giving all you own to outside aid. Maybe it is you who should find it difficult to sleep at night....Because it is you who hold these convictions.

Maybe you should be out there doing aid....I'd respect that.

Wealthy nations should look to help and advise poorer ones.....What they shouldn't and frankly can't do is take their people.

A state's responsibility should be towards their own poor.....Everytime you increase dependency you worsen what's here for our own working poor, ill people or unemployed.

Also why only help the ones who get here?.....Why aren't you sending large cheques overseas to all those poorer, older or iller individuals you couldn't afford the ticket onto the boat? There's a hypocrisy overwise......The logical argument is endless.

British taxpayers have a right to expect their money to go towards British problems.

If you think that is selfish....Then be assured that this is the world you were born into. You can be different but don't expect or moan about others not following you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2015 12.28pm)

That is an astounding claim Stirling, and suggests a devotion to the concept of the nation state which is almost religious.

If you live in Northern Iraq, or Eastern Syria, your state - as in who claims authority over you - will almost definitely have changed at least twice in your lifetime. You will also most probably have lost a family member to one of the civil wars that have ensued in your state.

What you are saying would have truly revolutionary consequences on people's lives. If you were Jewish but you were born in Nazi Germany, are you to accept the responsibility of that state in handling you and hope for no external intevention? If you were a freedman in Haiti after the Haitian revolution, do you still remain the French state's responsibility because you were born in chains in one of its colonies? Likewise, if you are a child now born in the region controlled by IS, are you saying you have absolutely no right to expect help from the outside world, even if it condemnds you to a life of rape, forced marriage, violence and seclusion?

Your point on why I'm not out there helping is particularly bonkers. I don't have the money to get a flight to Syria, let alone finance an aid mission, and that's why I do what I can within the environment around me: discuss it with people, support people who I see are trying to help, and of course waste hours of my life on a football forum debating in detail what UK foreign policy should be. I think that was actually Nelson Mandela's background before going in to politics too!

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 12.09pm Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 11.55am Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 11.43am Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 10.21am Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then? House them and stop causing the international tensions which result in so many fleeing their country of origin. I have a question for those on the right who have no sympathy with these poor folk: how bad would things have to get in Britain for you to leave? Would you leave if war broke out? If bombings were frequent? Jeremy Corbyn became PM? So what you are saying is that whoever turns up at the French port of Calais, regardless of how many there are, we should house them. Is this what you are actually suggesting? Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Jul 2015 11.56am) Yeah. We are one of the few European nations with the capacity to offer them temporary residence, and then offer them jobs so they contribute to our society or assistance if they want to return to their country once we've started to maturely deal with foreign policy. It's not ideal but it's a state of affairs we have contributed towards in many cases. I'm guessing your alternative would be to let them drown in the sea or return to their countries and die? First point, any country in the EU could offer them temporary residence, not just ourselves. In fact, many countries have far more space to house them than us, however it is THEY the migrants who are choosing to come to the UK. Next point is that it would not be ‘temporary’ would it? These guys are not ever planning to go home. You say we could offer these people jobs, but what jobs? Most cannot speak proper English and would not be able to gain employment, thus becoming an additional burden on our welfare system. Do you honestly think anyone would employ these people who do not have a command of the English language? If I was a genuine asylum seeker and my life and the lives of my family were in danger then I would do whatever I could to escape from the situation. However, as soon as I crossed the border into a safe country I would kneel down, kiss the ground and thank god for being safe. I wouldn’t then cross another 10 borders until I reach the UK. These people are economic migrants – not genuine asylum seekers. You speak about letting these people return home to die but that is simply not the case. Most of these have already had the chance to claim asylum in any number of countries and have refused to do so. Just say we did take in the 6 thousand migrants, what sort of message do you think this would send out? what if 50 thousand turned up next year, would we take these in to? Who would pay for their housing? You and I – the tax payer. Would you be happy to pay more tax and receive less money each year? You ask what I would do, I would invest more in security to guard our ports at either end. I would put HUGE pressure on the French and the EU to start facing their own responsibilities and to actually start deporting anyone in their countries who does not hold a current visa/passport. Ultimately though my answer would be simple – leave the EU and take control our own borders. Deport anybody who is found here illegally, and offer no incentive for people to wish to settle here unless via a legal route. Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Jul 2015 12.53pm) "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then?

House them and stop causing the international tensions which result in so many fleeing their country of origin.

I have a question for those on the right who have no sympathy with these poor folk: how bad would things have to get in Britain for you to leave? Would you leave if war broke out? If bombings were frequent? Jeremy Corbyn became PM?

So what you are saying is that whoever turns up at the French port of Calais, regardless of how many there are, we should house them. Is this what you are actually suggesting?

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (26 Jul 2015 11.56am)

Yeah. We are one of the few European nations with the capacity to offer them temporary residence, and then offer them jobs so they contribute to our society or assistance if they want to return to their country once we've started to maturely deal with foreign policy. It's not ideal but it's a state of affairs we have contributed towards in many cases.

I'm guessing your alternative would be to let them drown in the sea or return to their countries and die?

First point, any country in the EU could offer them temporary residence, not just ourselves. In fact, many countries have far more space to house them than us, however it is THEY the migrants who are choosing to come to the UK.

Next point is that it would not be ‘temporary’ would it? These guys are not ever planning to go home.
You say we could offer these people jobs, but what jobs? Most cannot speak proper English and would not be able to gain employment, thus becoming an additional burden on our welfare system.
Do you honestly think anyone would employ these people who do not have a command of the English language?

If I was a genuine asylum seeker and my life and the lives of my family were in danger then I would do whatever I could to escape from the situation. However, as soon as I crossed the border into a safe country I would kneel down, kiss the ground and thank god for being safe. I wouldn’t then cross another 10 borders until I reach the UK. These people are economic migrants – not genuine asylum seekers.

You speak about letting these people return home to die but that is simply not the case. Most of these have already had the chance to claim asylum in any number of countries and have refused to do so.
Just say we did take in the 6 thousand migrants, what sort of message do you think this would send out? what if 50 thousand turned up next year, would we take these in to?

Who would pay for their housing? You and I – the tax payer. Would you be happy to pay more tax and receive less money each year?

You ask what I would do, I would invest more in security to guard our ports at either end. I would put HUGE pressure on the French and the EU to start facing their own responsibilities and to actually start deporting anyone in their countries who does not hold a current visa/passport. Ultimately though my answer would be simple – leave the EU and take control our own borders. Deport anybody who is found here illegally, and offer no incentive for people to wish to settle here unless via a legal route.

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fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 26 Jul 15 1.03pm
Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 12.22pm Quote fed up eagle at 26 Jul 2015 12.14pm Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 12.04pm Quote fed up eagle at 26 Jul 2015 11.59am Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 11.45am Quote fed up eagle at 26 Jul 2015 11.41am Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 11.31am Quote Kermit8 at 26 Jul 2015 11.22am I think we should send them all to Bristol Come on Hoof. If you were unlucky enough to be born in Eritrea or some other piss poor corrupt no future hell hole you'd be on yer invisible bike and in Calais as an economic migrant in no time rather than just accept your fate. Edited by Kermit8 (26 Jul 2015 11.25am) I dont think anybody on here is suggesting that they except their fate. The anger and frustration is aimed towards the British and French governments inability to deal with the situation. What would be your suggestion be to sort out the 6 thousand migrants who currently reside next to the port of Calais Kermit? My suggestion would be to deport them to their country of origin with immediate effect. So would you be able to sleep at night knowing that you would have effectively sent thousands to their deaths rather than trying to provide basic support for them? I sincerely doubt they'll all be going to their deaths. That's just an argument used by the left as a scare story. and no, I'd have no problem sleeping thanks. If there are women and children fleeing IS from Iraq or Syria, then yes they have a very high chance of being killed if they reenter those countries. Thousands are dying in Eritrea under intense bombing from Ethiopia, so again it is no exaggeration to claim many would die if returned, and similarly many homosexual refugees are fleeing persecution, torture and death from African countries where, were they to return, the very best outcome they could hope for would be indefinite confinement. You tell a kid from Syria that he has to return to a country where in all likelihood many of his friends and family have been murdered and he knows he'll probably have to join in the fighting upon return, and see how well you sleep that night. Well if you're that worried about them then let them claim asylum in France, or better still the country that they first arrived at when landing on the european continent. Why the hell should we have them all? Demanding to come here and rioting if they don't get their own way. We're full, schools, hospitals, public transport are all creaking under the weight of this mass influx. We're an island for the love of God, we're not a country the size of Russia or the U.S.A are we. 1. We don't have them all, in fact we've taken in pitiably few refugees in the past couple of years. These are a few thousand of the tens of thousands who have found refuge in the Mediterranean countries. 2. Who said they were rioting? Yeah there are probably a few skirmishes but from what I've seen they've created their own working community in Calais, it's the overburdened workers at the crossing who are kicking up the biggest fuss. 3. Our public infrastructure is creaking under the burden of an ageing population and the government's outsourcing programme. Migrants, as they did after the war, and in the 60s, and in the 90s, would bring a young demographic workforce who would restrengthen public infrastructure. Only 3% of land in this country is built on, so the idea that we're full is a load of bollocks. That ageing population as you put it were here first, were likely born in this country and have paid taxes all their lives. And the idea that we're full is not bollocks, it's a fact. I suppose you would have us building on the greenbelt to accommadate these people eh? For a country of our size we take more than our fair share, and as for the riots, well you evidently didn't watch the news a few moths ago. They were rioting and DEMANDING to be allowed to come here. It's people with your wooly minded train of thought that has pretty much caused this problem in the first place. The last Labour government should be charged with deliberate dereliction of duty as regards to abandoning our borders. As for 'creating their own working community in Calais', well I think you should ask the people of Calais what they think of having all these people camped on their doorstep? I bet you would get a very different point of view.
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I think we should send them all to Bristol

Come on Hoof. If you were unlucky enough to be born in Eritrea or some other piss poor corrupt no future hell hole you'd be on yer invisible bike and in Calais as an economic migrant in no time rather than just accept your fate.

Edited by Kermit8 (26 Jul 2015 11.25am)

I dont think anybody on here is suggesting that they except their fate. The anger and frustration is aimed towards the British and French governments inability to deal with the situation.
What would be your suggestion be to sort out the 6 thousand migrants who currently reside next to the port of Calais Kermit?

My suggestion would be to deport them to their country of origin with immediate effect.

So would you be able to sleep at night knowing that you would have effectively sent thousands to their deaths rather than trying to provide basic support for them?

I sincerely doubt they'll all be going to their deaths. That's just an argument used by the left as a scare story. and no, I'd have no problem sleeping thanks.

If there are women and children fleeing IS from Iraq or Syria, then yes they have a very high chance of being killed if they reenter those countries. Thousands are dying in Eritrea under intense bombing from Ethiopia, so again it is no exaggeration to claim many would die if returned, and similarly many homosexual refugees are fleeing persecution, torture and death from African countries where, were they to return, the very best outcome they could hope for would be indefinite confinement.

You tell a kid from Syria that he has to return to a country where in all likelihood many of his friends and family have been murdered and he knows he'll probably have to join in the fighting upon return, and see how well you sleep that night.

Well if you're that worried about them then let them claim asylum in France, or better still the country that they first arrived at when landing on the european continent. Why the hell should we have them all? Demanding to come here and rioting if they don't get their own way. We're full, schools, hospitals, public transport are all creaking under the weight of this mass influx. We're an island for the love of God, we're not a country the size of Russia or the U.S.A are we.

1. We don't have them all, in fact we've taken in pitiably few refugees in the past couple of years. These are a few thousand of the tens of thousands who have found refuge in the Mediterranean countries.

2. Who said they were rioting? Yeah there are probably a few skirmishes but from what I've seen they've created their own working community in Calais, it's the overburdened workers at the crossing who are kicking up the biggest fuss.

3. Our public infrastructure is creaking under the burden of an ageing population and the government's outsourcing programme. Migrants, as they did after the war, and in the 60s, and in the 90s, would bring a young demographic workforce who would restrengthen public infrastructure. Only 3% of land in this country is built on, so the idea that we're full is a load of bollocks.

That ageing population as you put it were here first, were likely born in this country and have paid taxes all their lives. And the idea that we're full is not bollocks, it's a fact. I suppose you would have us building on the greenbelt to accommadate these people eh?
For a country of our size we take more than our fair share, and as for the riots, well you evidently didn't watch the news a few moths ago. They were rioting and DEMANDING to be allowed to come here.
It's people with your wooly minded train of thought that has pretty much caused this problem in the first place. The last Labour government should be charged with deliberate dereliction of duty as regards to abandoning our borders. As for 'creating their own working community in Calais', well I think you should ask the people of Calais what they think of having all these people camped on their doorstep? I bet you would get a very different point of view.

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Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 12.04pm Quote fed up eagle at 26 Jul 2015 11.59am Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 11.45am Quote fed up eagle at 26 Jul 2015 11.41am Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 11.31am Quote Kermit8 at 26 Jul 2015 11.22am I think we should send them all to Bristol Come on Hoof. If you were unlucky enough to be born in Eritrea or some other piss poor corrupt no future hell hole you'd be on yer invisible bike and in Calais as an economic migrant in no time rather than just accept your fate. Edited by Kermit8 (26 Jul 2015 11.25am) I dont think anybody on here is suggesting that they except their fate. The anger and frustration is aimed towards the British and French governments inability to deal with the situation. What would be your suggestion be to sort out the 6 thousand migrants who currently reside next to the port of Calais Kermit? My suggestion would be to deport them to their country of origin with immediate effect. So would you be able to sleep at night knowing that you would have effectively sent thousands to their deaths rather than trying to provide basic support for them? I sincerely doubt they'll all be going to their deaths. That's just an argument used by the left as a scare story. and no, I'd have no problem sleeping thanks. If there are women and children fleeing IS from Iraq or Syria, then yes they have a very high chance of being killed if they reenter those countries. Thousands are dying in Eritrea under intense bombing from Ethiopia, so again it is no exaggeration to claim many would die if returned, and similarly many homosexual refugees are fleeing persecution, torture and death from African countries where, were they to return, the very best outcome they could hope for would be indefinite confinement. You tell a kid from Syria that he has to return to a country where in all likelihood many of his friends and family have been murdered and he knows he'll probably have to join in the fighting upon return, and see how well you sleep that night.[/quote] You don't seem to understand, it wouldn't bother me and yes I'd still sleep thanks. There's plenty of other European countries who can take them. They're in France for God's sake.
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My suggestion would be to deport them to their country of origin with immediate effect.

So would you be able to sleep at night knowing that you would have effectively sent thousands to their deaths rather than trying to provide basic support for them?

I sincerely doubt they'll all be going to their deaths. That's just an argument used by the left as a scare story. and no, I'd have no problem sleeping thanks.

You don't seem to understand, it wouldn't bother me and yes I'd still sleep thanks. There's plenty of other European countries who can take them. They're in France for God's sake.

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Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 11.43am Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 10.21am Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then? House them and stop causing the international tensions which result in so many fleeing their country of origin. I have a question for those on the right who have no sympathy with these poor folk: how bad would things have to get in Britain for you to leave? Would you leave if war broke out? If bombings were frequent? Jeremy Corbyn became PM? House them, where exactly, I had to laugh at that one. South London born and bred red and blue till im dead.
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Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then?

House them and stop causing the international tensions which result in so many fleeing their country of origin.

House them, where exactly, I had to laugh at that one.

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Kermit8 Hevon 26 Jul 15 1.26pm
Not hard to see which Hol posters would have supported establishment apathy in helping to rescue fleeing Jews had they been around during 1939-45. 'We've already got 40million - we haven't got the room for Chaim and his family of eight' The Syrians, Iraqis and Eritreans are no different. To return them would mean at best hard labour or imprisonment and torture, or conscription for life probably. Though execution is just as likely. Help the most needy first. That is them. We've had it pretty good for well over half a century on the whole. No harm now in helping decent people who have had their homes, families and everything else taken away from them through no fault of their own. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Not hard to see which Hol posters would have supported establishment apathy in helping to rescue fleeing Jews had they been around during 1939-45. 'We've already got 40million - we haven't got the room for Chaim and his family of eight'

The Syrians, Iraqis and Eritreans are no different. To return them would mean at best hard labour or imprisonment and torture, or conscription for life probably. Though execution is just as likely.

Help the most needy first. That is them. We've had it pretty good for well over half a century on the whole. No harm now in helping decent people who have had their homes, families and everything else taken away from them through no fault of their own.

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Here's a thought: there are about 4000 migrants in Calais. There are an estimated 22000 empty properties in central london, owned by wealthy individuals around the world as investments, thus leading to total ghost towns in parts of the city centre. How about we put them up in these empty properties, demanding that people who buy property live in them, while also assisting these people in moving elsewhere, finding family, learning English and getting jobs etc. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Here's a thought: there are about 4000 migrants in Calais. There are an estimated 22000 empty properties in central london, owned by wealthy individuals around the world as investments, thus leading to total ghost towns in parts of the city centre.

How about we put them up in these empty properties, demanding that people who buy property live in them, while also assisting these people in moving elsewhere, finding family, learning English and getting jobs etc.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Quote johnny the eagle at 26 Jul 2015 1.20pm Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 11.43am Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 10.21am Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then? House them and stop causing the international tensions which result in so many fleeing their country of origin. I have a question for those on the right who have no sympathy with these poor folk: how bad would things have to get in Britain for you to leave? Would you leave if war broke out? If bombings were frequent? Jeremy Corbyn became PM? House them, where exactly, I had to laugh at that one. Must be plenty of old army land or RAF bases with empty barracks. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then?

House them and stop causing the international tensions which result in so many fleeing their country of origin.

House them, where exactly, I had to laugh at that one.

Must be plenty of old army land or RAF bases with empty barracks.

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Quote Kermit8 at 26 Jul 2015 1.28pm Quote johnny the eagle at 26 Jul 2015 1.20pm Quote serial thriller at 26 Jul 2015 11.43am Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Jul 2015 10.21am Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then? House them and stop causing the international tensions which result in so many fleeing their country of origin. I have a question for those on the right who have no sympathy with these poor folk: how bad would things have to get in Britain for you to leave? Would you leave if war broke out? If bombings were frequent? Jeremy Corbyn became PM? House them, where exactly, I had to laugh at that one. Must be plenty of old army land or RAF bases with empty barracks. Must be, and a load of people already here who need homes, or do I imagine what I see on the news about people sleeping under flyovers etc.etc. So, ok when we have housed that lot we can make a start a. South London born and bred red and blue till im dead.
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Serial Thriller - so what are you suggesting is done then about the migrants in Calais then?

House them and stop causing the international tensions which result in so many fleeing their country of origin.

House them, where exactly, I had to laugh at that one.

Must be plenty of old army land or RAF bases with empty barracks.

Must be, and a load of people already here who need homes, or do I imagine what I see on the news about people sleeping under flyovers etc.etc. So, ok when we have housed that lot we can make a start a.

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leggedstruggle Croydon 26 Jul 15 1.40pm
Send them round to Jeremy Corbyn's house. mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Croydon 26 Jul 15 1.40pm

Send them round to Jeremy Corbyn's house.

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

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