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palace chick South Croydon 27 Nov 23 10.40am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops This post sums it up for me. If you analyse our first 11 from a distance you would probably say, a strong central defensive four of Guehi, Andersen, Doucoure and Lerma but with defensive weakness down the channels.it is worrying that we are shipping so many goals with no apparent attempt to improve the areas of weakness. In the attacking third we are not clinical enough, simple as that. Edouard is lazier than Benteke used to be and half heartedly chases down defenders who he knows he is not going to get within a couple of yards of. With the injury to both Doucoure and Eze and no decent replacements, I reckon the next 7 game hectic month could be a torrid period for us. We somehow need to pick up at least 6-8 points from the following games which might look fairly straightforward on paper but given our Everton and Luton performances could see a lower return. West Ham A Bournemouth H Liverpool H Man City A Brighton H Chelsea A Brentford H The way we have played in the last 4 matches, I can only see zero points. Only possible chance is a worldly goal by us or keeping it to 0:0 and presently that’s not looking possible? Of course I’m being negative and we may get some points other than my prediction but that’s how I feel at the moment having watched those last 4 games and the way we are playing and lack of a quality 11 plus bench to put out :-(
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palace chick

South Croydon 27 Nov 23 10.40am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

This post sums it up for me. If you analyse our first 11 from a distance you would probably say, a strong central defensive four of Guehi, Andersen, Doucoure and Lerma but with defensive weakness down the channels.it is worrying that we are shipping so many goals with no apparent attempt to improve the areas of weakness.

In the attacking third we are not clinical enough, simple as that. Edouard is lazier than Benteke used to be and half heartedly chases down defenders who he knows he is not going to get within a couple of yards of.

With the injury to both Doucoure and Eze and no decent replacements, I reckon the next 7 game hectic month could be a torrid period for us. We somehow need to pick up at least 6-8 points from the following games which might look fairly straightforward on paper but given our Everton and Luton performances could see a lower return.

West Ham A
Bournemouth H
Liverpool H
Man City A
Brighton H
Chelsea A
Brentford H

The way we have played in the last 4 matches, I can only see zero points. Only possible chance is a worldly goal by us or keeping it to 0:0 and presently that’s not looking possible? Of course I’m being negative and we may get some points other than my prediction but that’s how I feel at the moment having watched those last 4 games and the way we are playing and lack of a quality 11 plus bench to put out :-(

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palace99 New Mills 27 Nov 23 10.47am
Originally posted by Den1923 We have to be realistic, the current squad has circa 6/7 who you could say are EPL quality. The balance for the starting 11 has to be picked from a bunch of players who are at best championship quality, younger player who have no experience in the lower league, or sick notes. If your core 6/7 get injured then your in even deeper brown stuff. Roy's hands are really limited because of poor transfer activity, Parish and his fellow directors are the problem they want to be in the EPL but they just do not want to spend the cash to do it and if the do spend, then, they make bad transfer decisions by signing players we don't need. This may well end badly! i was critical of Palace's performance again Burnley as it was a classic non football one and many told me to stop criticising as we won. Well 2 games on and many of those people are now really moaning. The 2 goals we conceded on Sat were a joke really, and i'm not sure some of our highly paid players are as good as they think they are. The squad is so poor in so many positions that we are now in big trouble.
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palace99

New Mills 27 Nov 23 10.47am

Originally posted by Den1923

We have to be realistic, the current squad has circa 6/7 who you could say are EPL quality. The balance for the starting 11 has to be picked from a bunch of players who are at best championship quality, younger player who have no experience in the lower league, or sick notes. If your core 6/7 get injured then your in even deeper brown stuff. Roy's hands are really limited because of poor transfer activity, Parish and his fellow directors are the problem they want to be in the EPL but they just do not want to spend the cash to do it and if the do spend, then, they make bad transfer decisions by signing players we don't need. This may well end badly!

i was critical of Palace's performance again Burnley as it was a classic non football one and many told me to stop criticising as we won. Well 2 games on and many of those people are now really moaning.

The 2 goals we conceded on Sat were a joke really, and i'm not sure some of our highly paid players are as good as they think they are.

The squad is so poor in so many positions that we are now in big trouble.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Nov 23 11.06am
Originally posted by palace99 i was critical of Palace's performance again Burnley as it was a classic non football one and many told me to stop criticising as we won. Well 2 games on and many of those people are now really moaning. The 2 goals we conceded on Sat were a joke really, and i'm not sure some of our highly paid players are as good as they think they are. The squad is so poor in so many positions that we are now in big trouble. Apropos the winner, Mitchell got drawn in to a narrow position allowing a great deal of space on the flank. The Luton player under no pressure crossed into that so called 'Area of uncertainty'.It would appear that Andersen expected Johnstone to run out and collect but he did not advance and Brown stole in to slot home from close range.Abject defending.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Nov 23 11.06am

Originally posted by palace99

The 2 goals we conceded on Sat were a joke really, and i'm not sure some of our highly paid players are as good as they think they are.

The squad is so poor in so many positions that we are now in big trouble.

Apropos the winner, Mitchell got drawn in to a narrow position allowing a great deal of space on the flank.
The Luton player under no pressure crossed into that so called 'Area of uncertainty'.It would appear that Andersen expected Johnstone to run out and collect but he did not advance and Brown stole in to slot home from close range.Abject defending.

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dreamwaverider London 27 Nov 23 11.47am
Originally posted by Nicholas91 Is a never ending nightmare. I might support a League One team next season instead, preferably a London based one, like Millwall or Chelsea. Hahaha. That is wishful thinking!!!
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Originally posted by Nicholas91

Is a never ending nightmare. I might support a League One team next season instead, preferably a London based one, like Millwall or Chelsea.

Hahaha. That is wishful thinking!!!

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dreamwaverider London 27 Nov 23 11.56am
I read that Eze got an ankle injury. I hope to God that is the case and not too serious. Doucoure however with his Achilles, terrible news. Players are playing way too much these days, and long haul flights which do nothing for a super fit body are ruining so many players fitness. Even at this level, you can't expect to do a 7 hour plus flight and then go and play for 90 minutes at the intensity of the Premier. Doucoure is a prime example. Add to that the extra burden on our central players who I noticed barely pass anymore to our wing backs ( hardly surprising) and the knock on effect is constant flow of injuries. Football should be having a close look at this problem. In January its the Africa cup again..........
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dreamwaverider

London 27 Nov 23 11.56am

I read that Eze got an ankle injury. I hope to God that is the case and not too serious.
Doucoure however with his Achilles, terrible news.
Players are playing way too much these days, and long haul flights which do nothing for a super fit body are ruining so many players fitness.
Even at this level, you can't expect to do a 7 hour plus flight and then go and play for 90 minutes at the intensity of the Premier. Doucoure is a prime example.
Add to that the extra burden on our central players who I noticed barely pass anymore to our wing backs ( hardly surprising) and the knock on effect is constant flow of injuries.
Football should be having a close look at this problem.
In January its the Africa cup again..........

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Eaglecoops CR3 27 Nov 23 12.14pm
Originally posted by Willo Apropos the winner, Mitchell got drawn in to a narrow position allowing a great deal of space on the flank. The Luton player under no pressure crossed into that so called 'Area of uncertainty'.It would appear that Andersen expected Johnstone to run out and collect but he did not advance and Brown stole in to slot home from close range.Abject defending. Johnstone should have been screaming ‘Keeper’ or ‘Clear’. Andersen as an experienced defender should know that in the absence of a call from the keeper, the ball goes out of play. As you rightly say, that was abject defending.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 27 Nov 23 12.14pm

Originally posted by Willo

Johnstone should have been screaming ‘Keeper’ or ‘Clear’. Andersen as an experienced defender should know that in the absence of a call from the keeper, the ball goes out of play. As you rightly say, that was abject defending.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Nov 23 12.20pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Hahaha. That is wishful thinking!!! Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Nov 23 12.20pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Hahaha. That is wishful thinking!!!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Nov 23 1.29pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider I read that Eze got an ankle injury. I hope to God that is the case and not too serious. Doucoure however with his Achilles, terrible news. Players are playing way too much these days, and long haul flights which do nothing for a super fit body are ruining so many players fitness. Even at this level, you can't expect to do a 7 hour plus flight and then go and play for 90 minutes at the intensity of the Premier. Doucoure is a prime example. Add to that the extra burden on our central players who I noticed barely pass anymore to our wing backs ( hardly surprising) and the knock on effect is constant flow of injuries. Football should be having a close look at this problem. In January its the Africa cup again.......... We will be only missing Ayew & Schlupp, for Ghana will go, if picked. I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Nov 23 1.29pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

We will be only missing Ayew & Schlupp, for Ghana will go, if picked.

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Nov 23 1.51pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 We will be only missing Ayew & Schlupp, for Ghana will go, if picked. Good point actually, I'm struggling to name any more off the top of my head? Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Nov 23 1.51pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

We will be only missing Ayew & Schlupp, for Ghana will go, if picked.

Good point actually, I'm struggling to name any more off the top of my head?

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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radicalsteve ottawa 27 Nov 23 2.29pm
Looks like our options are very limited with the Roy setups and the players he picks. A braver manager would change the structure. How about three at the back Richards/ Holding, Guehi and Anderson; bring in Danny Imray to replace ward. Add Ebiowei,Ozoh and Tayo, give Franca a chance to start instead of Edouard? Can't be any worse than the starting 11 and set up we have deployed...... does that show "desparation", because that's how I feel right now!
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ottawa 27 Nov 23 2.29pm

Looks like our options are very limited with the Roy setups and the players he picks. A braver manager would change the structure. How about three at the back Richards/ Holding, Guehi and Anderson; bring in Danny Imray to replace ward. Add Ebiowei,Ozoh and Tayo, give Franca a chance to start instead of Edouard?

Can't be any worse than the starting 11 and set up we have deployed...... does that show "desparation", because that's how I feel right now!

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Nov 23 2.46pm
Originally posted by radicalsteve Looks like our options are very limited with the Roy setups and the players he picks. A braver manager would change the structure. How about three at the back Richards/ Holding, Guehi and Anderson; bring in Danny Imray to replace ward. Add Ebiowei,Ozoh and Tayo, give Franca a chance to start instead of Edouard? Can't be any worse than the starting 11 and set up we have deployed...... does that show "desparation", because that's how I feel right now! Yes it does, very much so ! Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Nov 23 2.46pm

Originally posted by radicalsteve

Can't be any worse than the starting 11 and set up we have deployed...... does that show "desparation", because that's how I feel right now!

Yes it does, very much so !

Old, Ungifted and White

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Den1923 27 Nov 23 3.31pm
Originally posted by radicalsteve Looks like our options are very limited with the Roy setups and the players he picks. A braver manager would change the structure. How about three at the back Richards/ Holding, Guehi and Anderson; bring in Danny Imray to replace ward. Add Ebiowei,Ozoh and Tayo, give Franca a chance to start instead of Edouard? Can't be any worse than the starting 11 and set up we have deployed...... does that show "desparation", because that's how I feel right now! You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
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Den1923

27 Nov 23 3.31pm

Originally posted by radicalsteve

Can't be any worse than the starting 11 and set up we have deployed...... does that show "desparation", because that's how I feel right now!

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!

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