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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 13 Feb 24 6.58am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

I certainly came away thinking "Wharton is the real deal" reminded me of a young Ben Watson only better -

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

Wharton is amazing. We have a right back at last. França needed that experience and hopefully learns what he needs to achieve as an athlete. He was absolutely shot after that run in the first half. Richards good.

Roy must bite the bullet and play Johnstone. But I guess that's £20m wasted if he doesn't stick with Henderson.

Roy tried to be positive with his subs. Turned out he should have been true to type.

 

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View cROYdonrogers's Profile cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 13 Feb 24 7.13am Send a Private Message to cROYdonrogers Add cROYdonrogers as a friend

Henderson is a decent keeper but Sam is far better. I'd say Henderson is just below the Guaita level but I can see an argument that they are on par. Henderson is an excellent No2. for us.
Wharton improved on the Brighton game and I think will be a great partner and cover playing with Eze.
Jury out on Munoz. Far more mobile there is no doubt but defending I'm still not sure.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 13 Feb 24 7.19am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Not sure why anyone thinks Henderson was at fault tonight? I would like most prefer Johnstone being our No 1, but whoever was in goal tonight wouldn’t have changed the result? We played without our four best players against a multi million pound team who had a bench full of players of a quality far exceeding our bench. I thought we gave it a good go tonight, so unlike the last few matches no complaints from me towards Hodgson. If anything, we lost because our substitutes just weren’t good enough. The players that went off and some that stayed on were knackered. Chelsea could make substitutions and still have a strong side. Sadly we couldn’t and that was why we lost. Thought our new players played well and once settled in will enhance us greatly. And even more so will make our bench stronger with a better quality of player to bring on once Olise, Eze, Geuhi and Dacoure are available. Let’s hope the first 3 are back before it’s too late to keep us up?

I agree with all of this. The players really bust a gut last night and it was one of those games where the subs really gave the advantage to the billionaires club. I also thought the ref issues and the delayed kick off caused our players to lose focus at the start of the second half. It was the same for both teams so you can't complain, but that was my take.

Taking this game in isolation I feel much better about things as the players showed they have the heart for the battle. Lerma looked like he shed a tear when he scored. The Everton game is all about the result though. After the previous two seasons it would be great to beat them at their place. Maybe the away fans could invade the pitch!

Edited by taylors lovechild (13 Feb 2024 7.21am)

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Online Flag London 13 Feb 24 7.36am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Unbelievable, 48th minute, 91st minute, 94th minute. We lose control of games at vital times. Henderson is absolutely garbage, we’ve been mugged off with him for a big fee.

How come we keep playing Henderson when England's number 3 is sitting on the bench. Johnston is a country mile better than Henderson yet we keep playing him and he is bloody useless.
He is nervous he has completely upset our defence. He is scared of the ball. Closes his eyes when shot at.
What is going on? Everybody can see it, yet he still keeps being selected.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 13 Feb 24 7.38am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Good to read positive comments about the game at last. A different and enterprising lineup and the new boys looked were a revelation. Munoz and Wharton excellent. Franca, for a 19 yr old got stuck in although he gave the ball away a few time and tired towards the end. Lerma's goal was a delight.

From my seat in front of the TV it certainly looked like the whole team really made a huge effort. Hope Roy goes with the same lineup next week, but swaps Johnstone for Henderson.

 


Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 13 Feb 24 7.45am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

A more encouaging display last night.
The negative aspect was leaving Gallagher unmarked twice around the penalty area to finish comfortably.
Last weekend's results went well for us, but we can't always rely on this happening.
I also think the Everton game will be more difficult than last night's.
Lots of crosses, aerial threats, set pieces and a physical approach all over the field.
We will be put under severe pressure , are unlikely to keep a sheet and still don't look to have many goals in us.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Online Flag London 13 Feb 24 7.46am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

At last we played some of our young talent. They gave us hope fight and something to be proud of. OK not the final polished article but alt least we had hope.
We attacked!!!
I thought those days were over.
All our new boys bar the keeper looked very good.
Whoever brainwashed our management to play attacking football needs to keep the pressure on.
Chelsea played very very well and for 90 minutes our young boys gave them a run for their money. If we keep playing our youngsters they will improve. Really.
Bring back Johnston and everything will be fine. Really.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Feb 24 7.53am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Pretty upset after last night by the result not the manner.

I think the lads did okay and Roy picked the team I would have chosen. On another forum someone wrote Chelsea will win this game with their bench and I think they were right. We just ran out of quality.

JPM was superb for about 60 minutes defending from the front but once he ran out of steam life was a lot easier for Chelsea. The same with a number of our other players.

Chin up lads this was no disgrace.

 


One more point

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View cannongilbert's Profile cannongilbert Flag 13 Feb 24 7.56am Send a Private Message to cannongilbert Add cannongilbert as a friend

Let's start from the fact that despite the 23% of possesion(during which in the fist half we didn't give them any chance to shoot)the overall performance was much better than the Brighton and the Arsenal one. If you allow Gallagher to shoot then you are in trouble. The third goal was an unfortunate Munoz sliding. Roy's changes could have come a bit earlier and IMO at the moment it took place, Ozoh would have been a better choice than Ahamada. The facts are that you concede two goals in injury time(again). As for the Henderson haters, his record is fourteen goals in the last four premier leauge games. Personally my wish is for the best of the team's interests(i.e.results) and I believe that with Sam in goal we are in a better position to achieve it.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 13 Feb 24 8.23am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

To an extent I felt that the game changed when Hughes tired and eventually needed to be substituted.
We missed his bite and Chelsea seemed to have more space to operate.
Roy made the attacking subs, which I and may others had been calling out for, and arguably it backfired as we looked more open.
Oh well….

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 13 Feb 24 8.52am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

A lousy result but we fought and bar a couple of individual errors when we ball watched as opposed to marking Gallagher, we looked better than we have for a while.
Wharton is looking comfortable and is a real talent and Franca will grow up quickly.
Munoz is an upgrade and one hopes that with Ward fit that Hodgson will not be tempted to tinker.
It was a positive defeat in my mind but the late goals scenario is very frustrating - we do not try and shut the game down when we should.
Anderson couldn't pass wind last night - from what I saw - which is a shame as it is normally the best part of his game.
Everton will, as others have said, be tougher than that and I expect a defeat there, which means the Burnley game is an absolute 6 pointer, which along with maybe three other fixtures might save our bacon.
Fan support was amazing!!!!!

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 13 Feb 24 8.53am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Oh - and I totally agree - Johnstone is way better than Henderson - he must have crapped in the Managers car not to be first choice.

 

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