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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 10.18am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman The EU and its freedom of movement and single currency has been great to europalace. Unfortunately for people banging their nut against a brick wall a few times a day, he doesn't appreciate that it may not work for plenty of others. Small businesses, low paid workers, tradesmen or certain trades, untrained young people vs experienced low cost foreign labour, and plenty more if we do t break the cycle of cheap imported labour at some point. Just let him have his rants. Apparently we are going through a period of unlimited emigration of workers we need in key areas. How quickly can we train up nurses etc to replace the ones choosing to leave our increasingly hateful country.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 10.18am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The EU and its freedom of movement and single currency has been great to europalace. Unfortunately for people banging their nut against a brick wall a few times a day, he doesn't appreciate that it may not work for plenty of others.

Small businesses, low paid workers, tradesmen or certain trades, untrained young people vs experienced low cost foreign labour, and plenty more if we do t break the cycle of cheap imported labour at some point.

Just let him have his rants.

Apparently we are going through a period of unlimited emigration of workers we need in key areas. How quickly can we train up nurses etc to replace the ones choosing to leave our increasingly hateful country.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 10.19am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So we can't highlight the insane situation regarding migrants? We should brush it under the carpet? He didn't say you couldn't, just highlighting the hypocrisy which you conveniently ignore.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 10.19am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So we can't highlight the insane situation regarding migrants? We should brush it under the carpet?

He didn't say you couldn't, just highlighting the hypocrisy which you conveniently ignore.

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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 21 Jun 17 10.23am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So we can't highlight the insane situation regarding migrants? We should brush it under the carpet? That's not what you are doing though, you are just trying to score cheap political points. The same as nearly every single thread in General Talk. It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
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topcat

Holmesdale / Surbiton 21 Jun 17 10.23am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So we can't highlight the insane situation regarding migrants? We should brush it under the carpet?

That's not what you are doing though, you are just trying to score cheap political points. The same as nearly every single thread in General Talk.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 21 Jun 17 10.23am
Originally posted by nickgusset He didn't say you couldn't, just highlighting the hypocrisy which you conveniently ignore. Oi, you are no better! It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
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topcat

Holmesdale / Surbiton 21 Jun 17 10.23am

Originally posted by nickgusset

He didn't say you couldn't, just highlighting the hypocrisy which you conveniently ignore.

Oi, you are no better!

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Jun 17 10.27am
Originally posted by nickgusset Apparently we are going through a period of unlimited emigration of workers we need in key areas. How quickly can we train up nurses etc to replace the ones choosing to leave our increasingly hateful country. Hateful ffs? COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 21 Jun 17 10.27am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Hateful ffs?

COYP

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 17 10.31am
Originally posted by topcat Oi, you are no better! Oi? Are you in a skin head band?
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21 Jun 17 10.31am

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Originally posted by topcat

Oi, you are no better!

Oi?

Are you in a skin head band?

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 17 10.34am
Originally posted by topcat That's not what you are doing though, you are just trying to score cheap political points. The same as nearly every single thread in General Talk. Actually, I'm concerned that my family might be at risk when we travel to France. I have never made a secret of the fact that my primary motivation on all these topics is self interest or self preservation.
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Hrolf The Ganger

21 Jun 17 10.34am

Originally posted by topcat

That's not what you are doing though, you are just trying to score cheap political points. The same as nearly every single thread in General Talk.

Actually, I'm concerned that my family might be at risk when we travel to France.
I have never made a secret of the fact that my primary motivation on all these topics is self interest or self preservation.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 22 Jun 17 3.24pm
Originally posted by europalace Er, no, That's how you would like to portray people with a different opinion to yourself. As for other EU countries, at least they have better and stricter social systems as proven by these people who are desperate to get to the UK. They would stay in France if they could or any other EU country but their systems don't allow that for the majority. In doing that, many European countries have health systems and infrastructure that the UK can only dream about. Go and speak to the hundreds of thousands of Brits in Spain and France and ask them about the health systems over there. I'm sure they will not want to return to the UK and have to use the NHS. Germany has a huge surplus of hospital beds and yet they make a huge trade surplus every year, can't be bad can it? Show me where I have called the EU a 'Utopia' or are you falsifying what people have commented yet again to try and support your very flimsy opinions? Edited by europalace (21 Jun 2017 8.24am) You are too fond of running the UK down in most of your posts. But you will not take me up on a HOl meet up on your own turf to discuss our different positions and points and that is why I say openly that you are keyboard warrior of the highest degree and full of self importance. IF you are as good as you make out then take my offer and meet me on your own turf I cannot be fairer than that. Another thing, if you are so inclined to favour the immigrants coming to UK then why don't you take a few in Malta and see how you like it happening in your own back yard..... Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 22 Jun 17 3.24pm

Originally posted by europalace

Er, no, That's how you would like to portray people with a different opinion to yourself. As for other EU countries, at least they have better and stricter social systems as proven by these people who are desperate to get to the UK. They would stay in France if they could or any other EU country but their systems don't allow that for the majority. In doing that, many European countries have health systems and infrastructure that the UK can only dream about. Go and speak to the hundreds of thousands of Brits in Spain and France and ask them about the health systems over there. I'm sure they will not want to return to the UK and have to use the NHS. Germany has a huge surplus of hospital beds and yet they make a huge trade surplus every year, can't be bad can it?

Show me where I have called the EU a 'Utopia' or are you falsifying what people have commented yet again to try and support your very flimsy opinions?

Edited by europalace (21 Jun 2017 8.24am)

You are too fond of running the UK down in most of your posts. But you will not take me up on a HOl meet up on your own turf to discuss our different positions and points and that is why I say openly that you are keyboard warrior of the highest degree and full of self importance. IF you are as good as you make out then take my offer and meet me on your own turf I cannot be fairer than that. Another thing, if you are so inclined to favour the immigrants coming to UK then why don't you take a few in Malta and see how you like it happening in your own back yard.....

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jun 17 4.02pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Apparently we are going through a period of unlimited emigration of workers we need in key areas. How quickly can we train up nurses etc to replace the ones choosing to leave our increasingly hateful country. This is what we should be worrying about if we want to preserve anything of our country. [Link]
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Hrolf The Ganger

22 Jun 17 4.02pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

This is what we should be worrying about if we want to preserve anything of our country.

[Link]

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Jun 17 4.21pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This is what we should be worrying about if we want to preserve anything of our country. [Link] why does this book remind me of you (and others) [Link]
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 22 Jun 17 4.21pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is what we should be worrying about if we want to preserve anything of our country.

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why does this book remind me of you (and others)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 22 Jun 17 4.46pm
Originally posted by nickgusset why does this book remind me of you (and others) [Link] Is this sort of propaganda used in schools these days? Is there a 'Janet and John go to the Rage Day' ? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 22 Jun 17 4.46pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

why does this book remind me of you (and others)

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Is this sort of propaganda used in schools these days? Is there a 'Janet and John go to the Rage Day' ?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jun 17 5.00pm
Originally posted by nickgusset why does this book remind me of you (and others) [Link] You clearly don't understand what increasing world population will mean. But hey, look on the bright side. We will probably be dead before it gets really nasty. It will just be our kids and grand kids that have to suffer.
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Hrolf The Ganger

22 Jun 17 5.00pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

why does this book remind me of you (and others)

[Link]

You clearly don't understand what increasing world population will mean.
But hey, look on the bright side. We will probably be dead before it gets really nasty. It will just be our kids and grand kids that have to suffer.

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