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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Jun 17 6.45pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Here we go, couldn't help yourself could you. Why do you feel the need. No Willo threads today/

Just banter that's all !!!!

Some people on here probably think I am a "Stuffed shirt" (And worse !) but whilst I am not over-burdened with charisma I can be a cheerful chappie at times !.

Let's get back to the subject matter.

 

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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 18 Jun 17 6.46pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

"Smoke and mirrors" is an idiom for a deceptive, fraudulent or insubstantial explanation or description.

And still the man is so insubstantial that he can't post without the insults.

I am sure that the definition is correct, I haven't checked, however, there is a big difference between being fraudulent, deceptive or insubstantial.

Parish being fraudulent would imply that he is trying to make personal gain out of being dishonest. He is not.

Deceptive would imply that he is being dishonest. Which he is not.

Insubstantial would mean that he is not being dishonest, but is keeping some information private. Which is exactly what he is doing.

The operative word in the definition is "or" which means that the term applies to any one of the three definitions. This, it is quite feasible for Parish to be partaking in "smoke and mirrors" without being deceitful.

 

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View Palace in the Blood's Profile Palace in the Blood Flag 18 Jun 17 6.56pm Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Just banter that's all !!!!

Some people on here probably think I am a "Stuffed shirt" (And worse !) but whilst I am not over-burdened with charisma I can be a cheerful chappie at times !.

Let's get back to the subject matter.

When?

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 18 Jun 17 7.00pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

I think, but sometimes I'm not sure, that people have lives outside the HOL.

 


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View BigNasty12's Profile BigNasty12 Flag Halifax 18 Jun 17 7.08pm Send a Private Message to BigNasty12 Add BigNasty12 as a friend

Originally posted by dp

I am sure that the definition is correct, I haven't checked, however, there is a big difference between being fraudulent, deceptive or insubstantial.

Parish being fraudulent would imply that he is trying to make personal gain out of being dishonest. He is not.

Deceptive would imply that he is being dishonest. Which he is not.

Insubstantial would mean that he is not being dishonest, but is keeping some information private. Which is exactly what he is doing.

The operative word in the definition is "or" which means that the term applies to any one of the three definitions. This, it is quite feasible for Parish to be partaking in "smoke and mirrors" without being deceitful.


How do you know ANY of this? Have you had business dealings with SP? SP could possibly be unscrupulous there's absolutely ZERO way you can make any of those assertions unless you've had business dealing with SP in the past.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 18 Jun 17 7.11pm

Originally posted by BigNasty12


How do you know ANY of this? Have you had business dealings with SP? SP could possibly be unscrupulous there's absolutely ZERO way you can make any of those assertions unless you've had business dealing with SP in the past.

He is rather unscrupulous in business dealings.

 


"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 18 Jun 17 7.14pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by dp

Its not my job to give you hope Den. If you want to believe the spin and can't see that Zaha wouldn't have signed a new Contract without some indication of our ambition next year, then you are beyond any help that I could give you.

the exit clause in his contract would cover that if we were relegated, hopefully not but first we need a manager and then prepare!

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 18 Jun 17 7.31pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Palace quiz. Who scored Palace first premier league goal back in the prem after promotion in 12/13 ?

Edited by Dan89 (18 Jun 2017 7.31pm)

 


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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 18 Jun 17 7.33pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by BigNasty12

How do you know ANY of this? Have you had business dealings with SP? SP could possibly be unscrupulous there's absolutely ZERO way you can make any of those assertions unless you've had business dealing with SP in the past.

I think you might need to look a bit further back in the thread to see the context. I was explaining why I could say that SP was using smoke and mirrors without accusing him of being deceitful. I know this because I was referring to The English language.

That said, you should take care not to accuse people of being fraudulent and deceitful on social media.

 

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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 18 Jun 17 7.35pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

the exit clause in his contract would cover that if we were relegated, hopefully not but first we need a manager and then prepare!

Yes, but why would he have bothered signing if of he thought we were going to get relegated?

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 18 Jun 17 8.04pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Palace quiz. Who scored Palace first premier league goal back in the prem after promotion in 12/13 ?

Edited by Dan89 (18 Jun 2017 7.31pm)

I remember Moxey giving away the pen against Spurs in the first match that ended 1-0 but alas I am struggling after that. My son reckons we played Sunderland next and remembers Stuart OKeefe scoring, which I also recall but think that wasn't the first goal we scored

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 18 Jun 17 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

I remember Moxey giving away the pen against Spurs in the first match that ended 1-0 but alas I am struggling after that. My son reckons we played Sunderland next and remembers Stuart OKeefe scoring, which I also recall but think that wasn't the first goal we scored

It was chamakh away to stoke. In a 2-1 defeat .

 


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