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 dannyh  wherever I lay my hat....... 22 Mar 16 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Agreed. And go about your business as usual and don't let the fvckers win. Same goes for ISIS. I'd love to see how your "ignore them and they will go away" attitude would stand up if you had family members killed by ISIS terror attacks, all very well saying "ignore" from your ivory tower, out on the ground where people are dying, not sure people would agree with you. I know I don't. Edited by dannyh (22 Mar 2016 4.27pm)
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| Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 22 Mar 16 4.26pm |
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I've been driven a couple of times from Germany to the Netherlands & the motorway is as chocka with traffic as the M25. It would be impossible to stop them all and check ID's. And that's just one major road - there are hundreds in Europe that cross borders.
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| Stuk Top half 22 Mar 16 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think the will to do it isn't there, the logistics expensive and the will to do it isn't there. That might well change, given recent events. That's a s*** excuse frankly. They've reinstated them in enough countries where it suits them to stop migrants coming in so expense, logistics or will is neither here nor there. Even happened between Sweden and Denmark which is probably one of the busier commuter routes between two European countries.
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| Stuk Top half 22 Mar 16 4.31pm |
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Originally posted by Superfly
I've been driven a couple of times from Germany to the Netherlands & the motorway is as chocka with traffic as the M25. It would be impossible to stop them all and check ID's. And that's just one major road - there are hundreds in Europe that cross borders. So what? When you drive to Dover it's chock full of traffic but they all get stopped and checked. And every vehicle that enters Switzerland as I said before. Impossible it isn't.
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-TUX-  Alphabettispaghetti 22 Mar 16 4.32pm |
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Originally posted by Alexi_the_Eagle
The whole Western world needs to stand up to these ISIS b**tards and say enough is enough. How many more atrocities must occur before then? That'll never happen because they don't want it to happen.
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Kermit8  Hevon 22 Mar 16 4.53pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
I'd love to see how your "ignore them and they will go away" attitude would stand up if you had family members killed by ISIS terror attacks, all very well saying "ignore" from your ivory tower, out on the ground where people are dying, not sure people would agree with you. I know I don't. Edited by dannyh (22 Mar 2016 4.27pm) And i'd love you to understand the semantics of others postings and stop putting words in mouths. Your reply one is a non-sequitur. You've quoted me twice saying "ignore". I didn't. Stop making things up.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 22 Mar 16 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
And i'd love you to understand the semantics of others postings and stop putting words in mouths. Your reply one is a non-sequitur. You've quoted me twice saying "ignore". I didn't. Stop making things up. "Amazing how these sort of events get people squabbling over various ideologies. We are all on the same side against Islamic terrorists and right now the correct response is silence. Agreed. And go about your business as usual and don't let the fvckers win. Same goes for ISIS." You didnt actually say those exact words but please explain what you meant by the above. Edited by dannyh (22 Mar 2016 5.01pm)
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Mar 16 5.01pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Amazing how these sort of events get people squabbling over various ideologies. We are all on the same side against Islamic terrorists and right now the correct response is silence. Agreed. And go about your business as usual and don't let the fvckers win. Same goes for ISIS. Stop splitting hairs. He was talking about idiots using this as an excuse to promote Brexit and others doing similar for their politics.
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nairb75  Baltimore 22 Mar 16 5.07pm |
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answers: 1st: the "there" options 1 - completely leave the middle east and turn a blind eye to the ensuing chaos. maybe we even get cheaper oil out of it. 2 - set up an occupying force. kick out ISIS, the "west" runs the whole thing. 3 - go in, kick out isis. wait until the next isis forms, rinse and repeat (current and recent strategy). the "here" options 1 - close the borders at home, close the mosques, kick out all the muslims. 2 - keep the muslims and keep the mosques open. allow for some immigration. 3 - keep what's here; cut off all immigration. strict tracking of any travelers coming in for business, etc. any of those options sound good, or even realistic?
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 22 Mar 16 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
He was talking about idiots using this as an excuse to promote Brexit and others doing similar for their politics. Errrrrrr No he wasnt, I've gone back through the whole thread and there is no mention of that anywhere, even if he was, he would be wrong to associate government action against a known terrorist organisation with some norweigan nutter killing innocent cvillians. If your stance is not to "ignore" what is it, as you have failed to make that clear.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 22 Mar 16 5.09pm |
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Originally posted by nairb75
answers: 1st: the "there" options 1 - completely leave the middle east and turn a blind eye to the ensuing chaos. maybe we even get cheaper oil out of it. 2 - set up an occupying force. kick out ISIS, the "west" runs the whole thing. 3 - go in, kick out isis. wait until the next isis forms, rinse and repeat (current and recent strategy). the "here" options 1 - close the borders at home, close the mosques, kick out all the muslims. 2 - keep the muslims and keep the mosques open. allow for some immigration. 3 - keep what's here; cut off all immigration. strict tracking of any travelers coming in for business, etc. any of those options sound good, or even realistic? Are you Donald Trumps foreign policy advisor
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Mar 16 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
Errrrrrr No he wasnt, I've gone back through the whole thread and there is no mention of that anywhere, even if he was, he would be wrong to associate government action against a known terrorist organisation with some norweigan nutter killing innocent cvillians. If your stance is not to "ignore" what is it, as you have failed to make that clear. "As long as the EU clings to its fundamental principle of free movement for terrorists we will be all right." Page 1 My stance? Firstly, ban Wahhabism - make it illegal in this country like the hate crime it is - and go about your business as usual and don't let the fvckers win. Happy? Edited by Kermit8 (22 Mar 2016 5.14pm)
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