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Originally posted by DanH

Reckon we’ll ever hear from matthau or Lombardinho ever again?

Apparently they have been let down

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One more point

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 20 Jan 21 10.45pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Politics is a strange old game.

Issue is that I am convinced this election was stolen. All you have to do is look at the break down of the vote by counties and you realise that something incredibly untoward happened.

Biden 'won' because he piled up postal votes in specific counties. You look at what happened in some counties in Texas and the switch from Democrat to Republican is incredible. And from amongst the poorest groups as well.

Yet we are to believe that somehow that was not reflected across the US?

Nah. It stinks.

Question is do you carry on 'playing' in a rigged game? Always believed that by and large Democracy got it right and without Covid, Trump would have walked this election.

Yet we get the China virus and the perfect cover for the postal voting scam. Throw in an Establishment desperate to get rid of a US President who would not do their bidding in terms of fighting never-ending global conflicts and you have an election utterly bereft of any honour.

You Lefties have won. But you all know this is a tainted 'victory'. And a line in the sand moment.

Because if democracy is this f***ed in the supposed nation that produces the leader of the free world, how on earth are we meant to believe in it anywhere anymore?

Time for a major rethink. Read recently that abstaining from politics can be a political stance all of its own. Certainly coming to the conclusion that giving democratic politics a swerve might be the future. Utterly disgusted by it now.


Edited by Matov (20 Jan 2021 10.37pm)

If the election was ‘stolen’ to have achieved this in a country like America there would be evidence and an audit trial a mountain high. How do you even go about coordinating a fraud of that size in an election the entire world is watching?

You want to believe it was ‘stolen’. It wasn’t. People voted in their numbers because he wasn’t Trump.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 20 Jan 21 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by glazedallover

Aah Bless....

LOL. You know what, you enjoy the moment. But lets leave all the virtue signalling for when the s*** starts happening again. f*** your anti-war marches and all that other bollocks. Own the next village that gets hit by a 'stray' drone strike or the next wedding party that gets a gift delivered by F-18.

Because it is coming back. With a vengeance. As is jobs flowing abroad and illegal migration going up again.

But congratulations. You have a retarted, corrupt as f*** President back in the office. Along with a VP who has probably locked up more poor blacks than the most bigoted Red neck sheriff in the US.

Hey-ho. All in the game right?

Edited by Matov (20 Jan 2021 10.46pm)

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 20 Jan 21 10.49pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

If the election was ‘stolen’ to have achieved this in a country like America there would be evidence and an audit trial a mountain high. How do you even go about coordinating a fraud of that size in an election the entire world is watching?

You want to believe it was ‘stolen’. It wasn’t. People voted in their numbers because he wasn’t Trump.

People voted in their numbers in certain counties. With rules and regulations changed to accommodate that. It stinks. But as we have seen, its not over yet. Still plenty of legal challenges to be bought. After all, the Democrats went after Trump for years.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Originally posted by Matov

Politics is a strange old game.

Issue is that I am convinced this election was stolen. All you have to do is look at the break down of the vote by counties and you realise that something incredibly untoward happened.

Biden 'won' because he piled up postal votes in specific counties. You look at what happened in some counties in Texas and the switch from Democrat to Republican is incredible. And from amongst the poorest groups as well.

Yet we are to believe that somehow that was not reflected across the US?

Nah. It stinks.

Question is do you carry on 'playing' in a rigged game? Always believed that by and large Democracy got it right and without Covid, Trump would have walked this election.

Yet we get the China virus and the perfect cover for the postal voting scam. Throw in an Establishment desperate to get rid of a US President who would not do their bidding in terms of fighting never-ending global conflicts and you have an election utterly bereft of any honour.

You Lefties have won. But you all know this is a tainted 'victory'. And a line in the sand moment.

Because if democracy is this f***ed in the supposed nation that produces the leader of the free world, how on earth are we meant to believe in it anywhere anymore?

Time for a major rethink. Read recently that abstaining from politics can be a political stance all of its own. Certainly coming to the conclusion that giving democratic politics a swerve might be the future. Utterly disgusted by it now.


Edited by Matov (20 Jan 2021 10.37pm)

Cry more.

 


La la la your mum

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BlueJay Flag UK 20 Jan 21 11.08pm

Originally posted by Matov

Politics is a strange old game.

Issue is that I am convinced this election was stolen. All you have to do is look at the break down of the vote by counties and you realise that something incredibly untoward happened.

Biden 'won' because he piled up postal votes in specific counties. You look at what happened in some counties in Texas and the switch from Democrat to Republican is incredible. And from amongst the poorest groups as well.

Yet we are to believe that somehow that was not reflected across the US?

Nah. It stinks.

Question is do you carry on 'playing' in a rigged game? Always believed that by and large Democracy got it right and without Covid, Trump would have walked this election.

Yet we get the China virus and the perfect cover for the postal voting scam. Throw in an Establishment desperate to get rid of a US President who would not do their bidding in terms of fighting never-ending global conflicts and you have an election utterly bereft of any honour.

You Lefties have won. But you all know this is a tainted 'victory'. And a line in the sand moment.

Because if democracy is this f***ed in the supposed nation that produces the leader of the free world, how on earth are we meant to believe in it anywhere anymore?

Time for a major rethink. Read recently that abstaining from politics can be a political stance all of its own. Certainly coming to the conclusion that giving democratic politics a swerve might be the future. Utterly disgusted by it now.


Edited by Matov (20 Jan 2021 10.37pm)

It would not take long at all to figure out if an avalanche of votes were cast against peoples knowledge. These things are publicly searchable and Trump tried every which way to fabricate a reality that wasn't so, and hundreds of examples and types of fraud were shown to be anything but. He did so to the point where he was trying to twists arms to 'find' a specific number of votes. So there's your fraud. As far is rumoured to have said "It' bull$hit" to think it changed the election result.

I think it's all rather Q like really, in that people latch onto a fantasy because they can't deal with the reality. Though of course this isn't quite as fanciful in nature, but it's still false. The Democrats did the same with Russia. Not to say there wasn't 'going ons' but again nothing that changed the election result.

What I would concede is that making postal voting central definitely helped Democrats, though considering there is a pandemic on that has almost wiped out half a million american, it was inevitable that it would be the go to option for those concerned about the virus (which became politicised on both sides). Trump definitely used underhand ways and an early 'rigged' mantra (as he did with Hillary ... until he won then promptly forgot about it) to try to suppress or invalidate postal voting, and that mindset filtered through, as his 'instructions' typically did to those who invested too much into him.

So effectively without the coronavirus Trump would still be President. His attitude towards it was of course uncaring and from a point of inconvenience rather than concern for the population, so perhaps his political fate is deserved.


 

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Originally posted by croydon proud


I can"t see it myself,if it was stolen those 60 legal cases wouldn"t have been thrown out, some with republicans in charge, but i agree with you about democracy, i have considered not voting again to, but saying that, I will take the win either way! Bit like getting a dodgy penalty in cup final to win it, take it or leave it? We all would take it i think!

Why do you think trump won in 2016. Because Clinton's wasnt rigged enough.
92% chance of winning and she lost. They weren't making the same mistake twice. Can you not even see a shred of reality in the so called rigging of it.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 20 Jan 21 11.15pm

Originally posted by Matov

LOL. You know what, you enjoy the moment. But lets leave all the virtue signalling for when the s*** starts happening again. f*** your anti-war marches and all that other bollocks. Own the next village that gets hit by a 'stray' drone strike or the next wedding party that gets a gift delivered by F-18.

Because it is coming back. With a vengeance. As is jobs flowing abroad and illegal migration going up again.

But congratulations. You have a retarted, corrupt as f*** President back in the office. Along with a VP who has probably locked up more poor blacks than the most bigoted Red neck sheriff in the US.

Hey-ho. All in the game right?

Edited by Matov (20 Jan 2021 10.46pm)

I commend Trump for at least not starting further conflicts (it's sad that America has such a war monger reputation that we would think to praise such a thing). You have a certain 'end is nigh!' and 'final straw!" panic response to multiple topics. Perhaps this is more about your thinking rather than anything that's actually going on or about to happen in the world. Life is more boring than we care to acknowledge for the most part. There's not particular any reason to believe that Biden will be more of a war monger than whoever the next President is. The country has enough problem on its plate and is all spent out. I don't see expanding military presence anywhere as being on the agenda or popular with the voters of either party.

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 20 Jan 21 11.18pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Reckon we’ll ever hear from matthau or Lombardinho ever again?

An apology for relentless propaganda spamming and a simple ‘I was had’ would suffice. And possibly some recognition about who was, actually, awake and who was daydreaming with the rest of the sheep.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jan 21 11.21pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Cry more.

Funny that I havent seen your comment on the keelan thread being black and all. Poirot isnt needed to know why!
You seem more bothered about a wife beating,junkie,mugging,bank robber who got ironed out 5000 miles away.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 20 Jan 21 11.24pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Why do you think trump won in 2016. Because Clinton's wasnt rigged enough.
92% chance of winning and she lost. They weren't making the same mistake twice. Can you not even see a shred of reality in the so called rigging of it.

Polls have become less and less accurate in recent years. It's only a prediction, and Trump always outperforms polls anyway (he did this time too) as many of his voters have no real desire to announce who they are voting with. The similar principle applies here with the shy tory factor.

Hillary lost because she had a cold personality and was so incredibly unpopular with vast swathes of the country that they came out in droves to politically bury her. The same happened with Trump here. Biden didn't excite, he just didn't repel either, which is good enough. Biden wasn't voted in, Trump was voted out.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jan 21 11.26pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I commend Trump for at least not starting further conflicts (it's sad that America has such a war monger reputation that we would think to praise such a thing). You have a certain 'end is nigh!' and 'final straw!" panic response to multiple topics. Perhaps this is more about your thinking rather than anything that's actually going on or about to happen in the world. Life is more boring than we care to acknowledge for the most part. There's not particular any reason to believe that Biden will be more of a war monger than whoever the next President is. The country has enough problem on its plate and is all spent out. I don't see expanding military presence anywhere as being on the agenda or popular with the voters of either party.

Hes going straight after reclaiming tax breaks for who they call the wealthy. Probably going to affect fairly normal workers. Still he can then share it out and create equality.
Sort of rings a bell of a certain type of ism.

 

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