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Will Arsenal come in for Vieira after Arteta?

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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 20 Oct 21 9.41am Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

I'm sure it didn't escape your notice that, following us outplaying Arsenal on Monday, there was somewhat of a media narrative about "Have Arsenal got the right ex-player in charge?". I think Piers Morgan even Tweeted it.

Should we be anticipating Arsenal trying to lure Vieira as soon as they sack Arteta, whether that's this season or next? If so is it inevitable that he'd want to jump ship?

 


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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 20 Oct 21 9.48am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

I doubt it. I guess it would depend on when Arteta was sacked and what Viera had achieved with us at that point. I don't think there is any danger of Viera going to Arsenal should Arteta be fired in the next few months.

The bald facts are that we have one won game in eight and at this point I can't see Arsenal seeing Viera as the must have next manager. Should we go on an impressive run and finish in the top 8 at the end of the season, with Arteta still clinging on at an Arsenal that have finished outside the top 4 then possibly.

 

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Originally posted by Pete53

I doubt it. I guess it would depend on when Arteta was sacked and what Viera had achieved with us at that point. I don't think there is any danger of Viera going to Arsenal should Arteta be fired in the next few months.

The bald facts are that we have one won game in eight and at this point I can't see Arsenal seeing Viera as the must have next manager. Should we go on an impressive run and finish in the top 8 at the end of the season, with Arteta still clinging on at an Arsenal that have finished outside the top 4 then possibly.


True but our performances have certainly been better than the wins and points suggest, especially given how difficult our run has been. I mean if we'd seen out those two games we'd be in the top half and just a few points off the Champions League places.

I think it's fair to assume that once Eze and Zaha are back and Olise is ready to start games, we should start converting some draws into wins.

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Oct 21 10.46am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

There is a danger in giving ex-players the manager's job too early. Both Lampard and Arteta are recent cases in point.

Whilst Vieira will almost certainly want to manage Arsenal one day, I reckon he will want to prove himself with Palace first. He has an exciting project with us. Furthermore, there's not the pressure for instant results that he'd face if he moved to Arsenal to replace Arteta this season.

 

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View fishbone's Profile fishbone Flag London 20 Oct 21 10.53am Send a Private Message to fishbone Add fishbone as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


True but our performances have certainly been better than the wins and points suggest, especially given how difficult our run has been. I mean if we'd seen out those two games we'd be in the top half and just a few points off the Champions League places.

I think it's fair to assume that once Eze and Zaha are back and Olise is ready to start games, we should start converting some draws into wins.

Great answer! Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 20 Oct 21 10.54am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

I think it all depends when Artea gets the chop.

Realistically Vieira needs a couple of years in the prem to prove his worth for a top team. Not that Arsenal are that any more.

But he's made such an impressive start that I'm sure he is now on lots of clubs radars

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 20 Oct 21 11.20am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

I would say it's inevitable that if Arsenal come looking for him, he will want the job. But it's all down to timing.
Bit like the talk of Gerrard going to Liverpool.

He won't go for at least a year because they will want to see whether he really is a good coach, and he's yet to prove that. If he does well for us, we'll benefit and should this talk become reality he'll leave us in a strong position to tempt an experienced replacement.

Personally, I'm hoping he's a great success here and that he sees out his 3 year contract.

And also that we'll finish above Arsenal!

 


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View fishbone's Profile fishbone Flag London 20 Oct 21 2.34pm Send a Private Message to fishbone Add fishbone as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I would say it's inevitable that if Arsenal come looking for him, he will want the job. But it's all down to timing.
Bit like the talk of Gerrard going to Liverpool.

He won't go for at least a year because they will want to see whether he really is a good coach, and he's yet to prove that. If he does well for us, we'll benefit and should this talk become reality he'll leave us in a strong position to tempt an experienced replacement.

Personally, I'm hoping he's a great success here and that he sees out his 3 year contract.

And also that we'll finish above Arsenal!

Who would you recommend to take his place or who would you think would be ready to take he place by then?

 

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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 20 Oct 21 2.37pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

If, somehow, he guides us into Europe places in his first season then he'll be very hot property indeed and greatly sought after by more than just Arsenal.

 

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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 20 Oct 21 2.56pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Thankfully he's only got a 12.5% win rate.

Steve Bruce was nearer 65% during his time with us. He'd be a better option.

 

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View Zimeagle's Profile Zimeagle Flag Harare 20 Oct 21 3.00pm Send a Private Message to Zimeagle Add Zimeagle as a friend

Originally posted by fishbone

Who would you recommend to take his place or who would you think would be ready to take he place by then?

Given that we were serious about Nuno and Lucien Favre, I'd imagine it would be someone of that calibre.

 

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View AlfNoakes's Profile AlfNoakes Flag Chichester 20 Oct 21 3.02pm Send a Private Message to AlfNoakes Add AlfNoakes as a friend

I think football gets the loyalty it deserves. Newcastle will be
lucky to recruit a manager to develope a project.
I think they'll get a "holding" manager.
Back to P.V. I have been so happily surprised at his managerial
aura. He was our reported 3rd or 4th choice. I wonder
how he felt about that.I am so grateful to Steve Parish
for the loyalty he's shown to his club,staff and fans.
Sticking with Roy was inspired and promoted a feeling of loyalty
that PV must have absorbed.Call me naive but feel that PV will
be aware of that loyalty and buy into it,at least for the medium term.If we continue our playing progress this year, I can see
a promising next season which would entice any new Premier
League manager. Patrick Viera needs to prove himself, I'd love
him to do that with us and stay with us for that little bit longer.


 

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