The way this team has been mismanaged and maltrained, no manager on the planet can keep us in the premier league.

Start planning for the championship now - and maximise our chances of not going into League 1.

It could just be that Parish’s luck has run out.
This is not to dispute his role in helping save the club, but on 3 occasions it’s been necessary for Pulis, Allardyce and Hodgson to dig us out of a hole.
Pulis was Holloway’s suggestion and we would have been relegated without his management.
Similarly Allardyce and Hodgson did sound jobs when we were struggling, on one occasion after the disastrous FDB experiment.
Our managerial appointments rarely give the impression of being planned and we never seem to have a succession plan;it all looks a bit haphazard.
Even when Vieira was appointed he was 3rd or 4th choice after we had tried for the likes of Santo and Favre.
I recall Alex Ferguson saying his advice to managers when considering job offers was to always look closely at the board to understand the structure and the nature of the support he would enjoy.
After 10 years in the Premier League (very creditable on the face of it) we seem not a great deal further forward in making key appointments.
Parish would probably argue that he likes to surround himself with people who care about the club, but sometimes it gives the impression of an old boy’s network rather than a professional structure.
Perhaps it sounds harsh , but sometimes it feels that the duration in the Premier League has been more down to luck than judgement.

I tend to agree with this. I said back in November that there was no way in God's green earth we could go down; back then three, maximum four, wins in twenty-two games seemed impossible not to be achieved even though, at the time, we were not playing well. How wrong I was.

Having watched Palace for fifty-three years, I know the look of a relegation team when I see one and this team has all hallmarks. We might stay up because there's always a chance, but it'll be a miracle if we do and it'll be by accident rather than design if it happens. And as for the easier schedule supposedly coming up right now, I don't care if we're playing the top side or the bottom side in the league; we're simply not at the races. An inadequate squad, no strategy, no confidence, no sense of purpose. We're essentially on the pitch from week to week to do little more than make up numbers. We're not even doing a very good job of that.

There's no real benefit in discussing what and why things have gone wrong; there's been mismanagement from the very top to the bottom of the club. We're in freefall right now, to put it bluntly. Today, a third of the team (Luka, Ward, Tomkins) should have been replaced at least two years ago but wasn't; we had a youth team goalkeeper, not a credible forward in sight...well, why go on?

Parish has well and truly f***ed up the Golden chalice. And I say Parish not out of individual animosity but because he's the decision-maker and top-dog. He's made the decisions that have led us to the edge of the cliff, or backed the other people he's hired to make them for him. It's happened on his watch, and he bears responsibility. His "greatest" achievement seems to be that he's alienated a growing portion of the supporters, something I've never seen, no matter how bad things have got, at Palace.

Roy, God bless him, is not the answer. If we do down, we go down. What we need to do, as G O Eagle says, is start again with competent people at the top and a decent plan in the middle plus the resources necessary to enact it. The only silver lining to the present cloud, such as it is, is the schadenfreude that will come from knowing Harris and Blitzer have flushed the value of their investment down the toilet because they've been too cheap and disengaged to ensure the club was being run properly. Serves them right.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

I think it’s too early to consider dissection. Everyone is speaking as if the season is done and dusted. We can survive this battle and have another year in the sun. We aren’t that far off from being 8-10th. Two mid-field players and the season looks totally different.
I would agree with other posts that the PL is an arms race and we can’t keep up. I’m not convinced the academy can solve all our problems. Smart signings, like Richards, Andersen,and Guehi, have given us a good young back line. Young players like Eze and Olise need more time. The engine room is the issue. 2 signings over the summer transfer window and we finish 9th next year. Glad All Over.

Agree a break is needed. However my concern is that we had a larger one earlier in the season with the World Cup and have looked below average for most of that time. We needed to reset after a poor defeat to Forest, had a mare against Fulham and then did well against Bournemouth. Since then we have had some low scoring draws but haven't won. The squad is largely the same, so it is debatable whether a break will actually make any huge difference to our form. Time will tell. COYP !!

Edited by Booted Eagle (19 Mar 2023 6.19pm)

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

I think the break is exactly what we need at the moment, it seems as though we completely wasted the last one, I dont see Paddy (or any new manager) wasting this one - the players arent fit enough to compete, no one is going to give them an easy time between now & the end of May.