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View georgey wood's Profile georgey wood Flag South London and Proud 21 Mar 23 11.58am Send a Private Message to georgey wood Add georgey wood as a friend

In my opinion PV had to go. However you watch your football, both the stats and the live experience were damning. Plus us as a fan base were in a weird malaise not angry enough to boo but too bored to cheer with lack of attacking action and the same out of form players being played each week often out of position ( again in my opinion) Thatís not what you need in a relegation battle. Having said weíre the lowest spenders this season in the league, he lost a £40 million player in CG, awful run of fixtures and Parish has clearly not backed PV or this ďnext levelĒ charade fully so this is massively on his head too.

Ray-
Whatever my thoughts on Roy. The appointment on Ray is definitely a master stroke (especially if itís to be believed that coaching at the training ground was poor) . Which again to the eye holds up: poor running stats, terrible at set pieces for and against us, no real attacking patterns of play, terrible passing and decision making in final third, no real leadership on the pitch and a massive loss of confidence as soon as we concede.

I know a few pro players and one at palace particularly well and everyone says Lewington is a class act and amazing coach. Heís also got a son still playing so weirdly even being late 60s is actually quite in tune with the younger players of today . Anyone who watched palace on the box in lockdown could hear Ray coaching and motivating players from the side line. I think our younger lads like Eze, Olise and even Wilf to some extent need this. Theyíre a little milky shall we say. Plus Edouard and Mateta clearly need motivating to run about and press. PV and Roberts didnít seem to do this, Roberts especially looked like a spare part on a match day cuddling his iPad. I think with Paddy and Ray supporting Roy this isnít as crazy as it appears especially considering the 10 fixtures remaining.

They should be able to at least improve motivation of the players and crowd by all being palace through and through.. I also think they will improve the basics and probably keep a more consistent side. I think the chopping and changing up top hasnít helped Edouard's confidence (albeit he has been a huge disappointment and needs to look in the mirror) but he does look a confidence player to me that PV couldnít get going. I also now fancy us more away from home to nick a point here and there or hold onto a lead. In a final defence of Roy he never had Gueshi, Anderson, Dacoure, Olise, Lakonga or Edouard to work with in his last season either. He had a negative net spend also in his 4 years so he may not be quite as defensive as before we can live in hope! Iím not saying Roy will keep us up but I actually believe we have a slightly better chance in a 10 game mini- season with him than PV.

Up the PalaceÖ..

 

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View Palace 1979's Profile Palace 1979 Flag Surrey 21 Mar 23 12.03pm Send a Private Message to Palace 1979 Add Palace 1979 as a friend

A great post and fully agree.

I just hope they get things right in the summer and learn from their mistakes. The Americans also need to show how serious they are in backing the expansion of the team as we are starting to fall behind the pack and will be in trouble again.

I believe we will stay up mainly because there are some really poor teams this season rather than us being good.

Edited by Palace 1979 (21 Mar 2023 12.04pm)

 


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Originally posted by georgey wood

In my opinion PV had to go. However you watch your football, both the stats and the live experience were damning. Plus us as a fan base were in a weird malaise not angry enough to boo but too bored to cheer with lack of attacking action and the same out of form players being played each week often out of position ( again in my opinion) Thatís not what you need in a relegation battle. Having said weíre the lowest spenders this season in the league, he lost a £40 million player in CG, awful run of fixtures and Parish has clearly not backed PV or this ďnext levelĒ charade fully so this is massively on his head too.

Ray-
Whatever my thoughts on Roy. The appointment on Ray is definitely a master stroke (especially if itís to be believed that coaching at the training ground was poor) . Which again to the eye holds up: poor running stats, terrible at set pieces for and against us, no real attacking patterns of play, terrible passing and decision making in final third, no real leadership on the pitch and a massive loss of confidence as soon as we concede.

I know a few pro players and one at palace particularly well and everyone says Lewington is a class act and amazing coach. Heís also got a son still playing so weirdly even being late 60s is actually quite in tune with the younger players of today . Anyone who watched palace on the box in lockdown could hear Ray coaching and motivating players from the side line. I think our younger lads like Eze, Olise and even Wilf to some extent need this. Theyíre a little milky shall we say. Plus Edouard and Mateta clearly need motivating to run about and press. PV and Roberts didnít seem to do this, Roberts especially looked like a spare part on a match day cuddling his iPad. I think with Paddy and Ray supporting Roy this isnít as crazy as it appears especially considering the 10 fixtures remaining.

They should be able to at least improve motivation of the players and crowd by all being palace through and through.. I also think they will improve the basics and probably keep a more consistent side. I think the chopping and changing up top hasnít helped Edouard's confidence (albeit he has been a huge disappointment and needs to look in the mirror) but he does look a confidence player to me that PV couldnít get going. I also now fancy us more away from home to nick a point here and there or hold onto a lead. In a final defence of Roy he never had Gueshi, Anderson, Dacoure, Olise, Lakonga or Edouard to work with in his last season either. He had a negative net spend also in his 4 years so he may not be quite as defensive as before we can live in hope! Iím not saying Roy will keep us up but I actually believe we have a slightly better chance in a 10 game mini- season with him than PV.

Up the PalaceÖ..

Fully agree ... everyone loved PV but the stats don't lie, worse team in the Prem for running, tactics never changed under PV, and quite naive when it came to reading the game and making changes to the shape etc when the opposition had us figured and never dealt with overloads on our dodgy full backs. At least Roy, Ray and Paddy will bring some structure, energy and determination back. Our old DNA was about being the underdog and never giving up -= something that got lost in the PV translation.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 21 Mar 23 12.24pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

They can put the Ray shorts back in the club shop too.

I actually like Ray. I wonder whose decision it was for him to be coach rather than assistant though? Like I said elsewhere, I think at least we have Paddy to add some fresh ideas.

 

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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 21 Mar 23 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

They can put the Ray shorts back in the club shop too.

I actually like Ray. I wonder whose decision it was for him to be coach rather than assistant though? Like I said elsewhere, I think at least we have Paddy to add some fresh ideas.

After all the negativity,beginning to look somewhat promising,as we were sinking fast under Vieira and his useless,overweight team!!

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 21 Mar 23 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

They can put the Ray shorts back in the club shop too.

I actually like Ray. I wonder whose decision it was for him to be coach rather than assistant though? Like I said elsewhere, I think at least we have Paddy to add some fresh ideas.

I wonder if it's to accommodate Paddy as I doubt it will impact upon Ray's presence, what he's there for or will bring to the equation?

Only a thought from me nothing more.

 


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Two's company, three's a crowd.

Paddy should return to the U21s imo, things still looking up for him.


 

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Paddy should have stayed until end of the season and Lewington brought in to coach. Iíve always respected Lewington but hated the Hodgson tactics even from his stints as an international manager. Problem is I reckon they come as a package these days and weíll be back to 15% possession and the odd counter attack in no time.

 

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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Paddy should have stayed until end of the season and Lewington brought in to coach. Iíve always respected Lewington but hated the Hodgson tactics even from his stints as an international manager. Problem is I reckon they come as a package these days and weíll be back to 15% possession and the odd counter attack in no time.

I hope so. That was our strength. Where we were usually conceded possession by the weaker teams we had no idea what to do with it.

 

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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Paddy should have stayed until end of the season and Lewington brought in to coach. Iíve always respected Lewington but hated the Hodgson tactics even from his stints as an international manager. Problem is I reckon they come as a package these days and weíll be back to 15% possession and the odd counter attack in no time.

At Fulham they reached the UEFA final playing good football. You can only work with what you have got, last time here they didnít have as many youngsters as they do now.

 

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Originally posted by georgey wood

In my opinion PV had to go. However you watch your football, both the stats and the live experience were damning. Plus us as a fan base were in a weird malaise not angry enough to boo but too bored to cheer with lack of attacking action and the same out of form players being played each week often out of position ( again in my opinion) Thatís not what you need in a relegation battle. Having said weíre the lowest spenders this season in the league, he lost a £40 million player in CG, awful run of fixtures and Parish has clearly not backed PV or this ďnext levelĒ charade fully so this is massively on his head too.

Ray-
Whatever my thoughts on Roy. The appointment on Ray is definitely a master stroke (especially if itís to be believed that coaching at the training ground was poor) . Which again to the eye holds up: poor running stats, terrible at set pieces for and against us, no real attacking patterns of play, terrible passing and decision making in final third, no real leadership on the pitch and a massive loss of confidence as soon as we concede.

I know a few pro players and one at palace particularly well and everyone says Lewington is a class act and amazing coach. Heís also got a son still playing so weirdly even being late 60s is actually quite in tune with the younger players of today . Anyone who watched palace on the box in lockdown could hear Ray coaching and motivating players from the side line. I think our younger lads like Eze, Olise and even Wilf to some extent need this. Theyíre a little milky shall we say. Plus Edouard and Mateta clearly need motivating to run about and press. PV and Roberts didnít seem to do this, Roberts especially looked like a spare part on a match day cuddling his iPad. I think with Paddy and Ray supporting Roy this isnít as crazy as it appears especially considering the 10 fixtures remaining.

They should be able to at least improve motivation of the players and crowd by all being palace through and through.. I also think they will improve the basics and probably keep a more consistent side. I think the chopping and changing up top hasnít helped Edouard's confidence (albeit he has been a huge disappointment and needs to look in the mirror) but he does look a confidence player to me that PV couldnít get going. I also now fancy us more away from home to nick a point here and there or hold onto a lead. In a final defence of Roy he never had Gueshi, Anderson, Dacoure, Olise, Lakonga or Edouard to work with in his last season either. He had a negative net spend also in his 4 years so he may not be quite as defensive as before we can live in hope! Iím not saying Roy will keep us up but I actually believe we have a slightly better chance in a 10 game mini- season with him than PV.

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Agree. Great post.

 

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The last season we had with Roy and Ray? That was working out well?

 


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