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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 23 Jun 23 11.57am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Very depressing news from this already well paid class,who regularly pull the wool over our eyes,bleating on about their being paid £14 an hour,when they well know that after a few short years,many will be paid well in excess of £100,000 per annum with a fully index linked pension the like of which many of us can only dream about.
The 5% offer for the Government is far too low,but the Junior Doctors claim of 35% is grotesque and political motivated.

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 23 Jun 23 12.22pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

Very depressing news from this already well paid class,who regularly pull the wool over our eyes,bleating on about their being paid £14 an hour,when they well know that after a few short years,many will be paid well in excess of £100,000 per annum with a fully index linked pension the like of which many of us can only dream about.
The 5% offer for the Government is far too low,but the Junior Doctors claim of 35% is grotesque and political motivated.

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Edited by Jacey (23 Jun 2023 11.58am)

How does a pay increase in a few years help to navigate exploding rents/mortgage rates, food prices, bills and general cost of living?

How many doctors do you think earn over £100,000 per annum?

What do you mean that their claim is politically motivated? On behalf of who?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 Jun 23 12.57pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

we should pay Medical professionals more, and footballers less.


but of course, the World is not fair. The World seems to value Ryan Giggs more than the hero who saved your life on an operating table.

Pause, for a moment to reflect upon just how unpleasant a job it can be....

- violent junkies at ER
- up to your neck in gore & physical contact with bodily fluids

- aggressive relatives of the dying
- anti-social hours

- very high academic standards to reach
- being in proximity to sick & dying kids

- the constant threat of being sued or struck-off

etc etc....

Doctors deserve a medal, more than the average Mercenary in Ukraine.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (23 Jun 2023 12.59pm)

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Jun 23 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

How does a pay increase in a few years help to navigate exploding rents/mortgage rates, food prices, bills and general cost of living?

How many doctors do you think earn over £100,000 per annum?

What do you mean that their claim is politically motivated? On behalf of who?

Quite a few?

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Jun 23 1.23pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Junior Doctors are the workhorses of the NHS.

How they cope is beyond me, heroes treated like donkeys.

35% is nothing, this situation has been going on for many years, I well remember thanking one for treating my son and realising how drained and exhausted he was.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 23 Jun 23 1.33pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Quite a few?

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More than I thought to be fair! But I believe that average is also including private GPs, not just those employed by the NHS, which is what is relevant to the strikes.

"In the NHS, the earnings for a salaried GP range from £65,070 to £98,194, depending on their experience level, working hours and where in the country they’re working."

 

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View furrybloke's Profile furrybloke Flag Hemel Hempstead 23 Jun 23 2.03pm Send a Private Message to furrybloke Add furrybloke as a friend

They start low & work the way up

Grade Nodal Value £
FY1 1 29,384
FY2 2 34,012
CT1-CT2 3 40,257
CT3 4 51,017
ST1-2 3 40,257
ST3-5 4 51,017
ST6-8 5 58,398

It is on par with other grad roles. When you role in the additional allowances for unsociable hours etc. You add another £10k approx.

The pension is the big thing most in Public Sector don't understand. No not as generous as they once were, but way above what most of us can get, with an average of 15% being paid in but the pension being based on earnings not fund performance.

All that being said not a job I would want, but then I wouldn't want to go into Laz or accountancy either both of which start at a similar level.

Barista Maestro @ Costa - £11.70 per hour or £24k per year.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 23 Jun 23 2.31pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Quite a few?

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Junior doctors in the NHS?

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 23 Jun 23 2.38pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by furrybloke

They start low & work the way up

Grade Nodal Value £
FY1 1 29,384
FY2 2 34,012
CT1-CT2 3 40,257
CT3 4 51,017
ST1-2 3 40,257
ST3-5 4 51,017
ST6-8 5 58,398

It is on par with other grad roles. When you role in the additional allowances for unsociable hours etc. You add another £10k approx.

The pension is the big thing most in Public Sector don't understand. No not as generous as they once were, but way above what most of us can get, with an average of 15% being paid in but the pension being based on earnings not fund performance.

All that being said not a job I would want, but then I wouldn't want to go into Laz or accountancy either both of which start at a similar level.

Barista Maestro @ Costa - £11.70 per hour or £24k per year.

There you go. Express readers genuinely believe they earn £100k plus and now demand 35% more.

A similar disconnect between people's perception of what solicitors and accountants earn and what they actually earn. Electricians and plumbers might be astonished to know they considerably out earn their lawyers!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Jun 23 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Junior doctors in the NHS?

Is that what it says?
Do apprentice plumbers get paid the same as those who are qualified?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 23 Jun 23 3.12pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Medical workers.....underpaid, over-worked heroes, with good academic grades. Often working a job that nobody wants or is capable of doing.

TFL workers.....the opposite

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Jun 23 3.18pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

There you go. Express readers genuinely believe they earn £100k plus and now demand 35% more.

A similar disconnect between people's perception of what solicitors and accountants earn and what they actually earn. Electricians and plumbers might be astonished to know they considerably out earn their lawyers!

Like tube drivers earning more than most of their passengers. Sorry, customers.

 

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