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We could want revenge.

 


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Originally posted by Putitout

You can pick over the bones of this game all you like, but the reasons why it played out and ended as it did have to be obvious. What passes for our second string ,is in the most part well short of where it should be. The Plymouth game proved that,,
We do have a decent first 15 but then it falls off a cliff. The problem being we have three or four injuries to the 15 any more and it really is scrapping the barrel.
Blame who you like but that team last night couldn’t get out of its own half because it just wasn’t good enough. Proof as at Plymouth was the introduction of members of the 15, on this occasion Hugh’s, and Ebbs, two of the 15 and a team with no teeth at least created some attempts on the United goal. A few more injuries and it could get tricky.

This is something that has intrigued me about this club for many many years; how we seem to accumulate players who, despite being incredibly well-paid, are basically hopeless. There are thousands of professional footballers out there, so how does this happen so perennially? You used Plymouth as an example. Their starting line-up was nowhere near their regular starting XI yet they were all over our (Premier League) reserves sprinkled with a few regulars. Lesser clubs seem to be able to "give it a go" in cup competitions against lofty opposition; why are we unable to do so? What do these players do to justify their status and salary?

 


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Ten Hag now holds all the cards. Can bring in the players who played well last night and combine them with their first teamers who didn't need to break a sweat. Our only hope is they get complacent and we produce a miracle in attack.

 


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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 27 Sep 23 9.47pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Originally posted by YT

This is something that has intrigued me about this club for many many years; how we seem to accumulate players who, despite being incredibly well-paid, are basically hopeless. There are thousands of professional footballers out there, so how does this happen so perennially? You used Plymouth as an example. Their starting line-up was nowhere near their regular starting XI yet they were all over our (Premier League) reserves sprinkled with a few regulars. Lesser clubs seem to be able to "give it a go" in cup competitions against lofty opposition; why are we unable to do so? What do these players do to justify their status and salary?

Yes, I agree. I mean looking at the squad:
Naouirou Ahamada. Who you might say. Wikipedia says he his a defensive midfielder who plays for Crystal Palace and is paid £20k a week.
Riedewald - £45k a week and he is rubbish
Ferguson - £29k a week and has been on the panel since we signed him
James Tomkins - an invalid n £50k a week
Cliff Richards - £52k a week
It is baffling

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View Numbers Man's Profile Numbers Man Flag Tulse Hill 27 Sep 23 9.51pm Send a Private Message to Numbers Man Add Numbers Man as a friend

I thouight Hodgson looked lost without his normal back-up team. The team needed more support from the touch line because they looked a beaten side before the kick-off. The new signings didn’t impress and neither did the normal substitute players.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 27 Sep 23 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

I think we're fortunate to have got eight points with what's been available so far this season.

Even with a full squad our full backs and forwards aren't at the level.

Fans complain that young, home grown talent isn't being given an opportunity. Young home grown talent plays sh1t in the cup and it's the managers fault and he's not taking the cup seriously.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Sep 23 10.32pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

United have Newcastle next round.

I’m marginally less bitter now

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Originally posted by kevlee

Yes, I agree. I mean looking at the squad:
Naouirou Ahamada. Who you might say. Wikipedia says he his a defensive midfielder who plays for Crystal Palace and is paid £20k a week.
Riedewald - £45k a week and he is rubbish
Ferguson - £29k a week and has been on the panel since we signed him
James Tomkins - an invalid n £50k a week
Cliff Richards - £52k a week
It is baffling

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I generally agree. I may be biased, however, I think Chris Richards is significantly more useful than all the rest of the gents on that list (though I haven't seen Ahamada in action). I remind critics that he was our Player of the Month in January of this year.

 

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