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JRW2 Dulwich 15 Jun 24 4.07pm | |
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(1) "That's not what I'm hearing on doorsteps up and down the country." My word, I'll be glad when this depressing circus is over.
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YT Oxford 15 Jun 24 4.09pm | |
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Originally posted by JRW2
(1) "That's not what I'm hearing on doorsteps up and down the country." My word, I'll be glad when this depressing circus is over. After which you'll be taxed untill your ring is sore.
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Badger11 Beckenham 15 Jun 24 4.12pm | |
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How do you know a politician is lying? Their lips are moving.
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JRW2 Dulwich 15 Jun 24 4.15pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
After which you'll be taxed untill your ring is sore.
I didn't intend for the devil to get into my post, but I suppose its presence is not inappropriate.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jun 24 4.24pm | |
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I'm struggling to think of politicians of real substance currently. Would almost be refreshing to hear people like Corbyn - he seems to actually have ideals if you agree with them or not. Plus, there's the odd comical policy from flamboyant politicians - which I guess the only one I can think of now is Galloway.
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Teddy Eagle 15 Jun 24 4.40pm | |
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"I think the real question here is"... something for which I have a prepared answer.
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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jun 24 5.13pm | |
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Does anyone need to be told that Keir Starmer's dad was a toolmaker? The whole Labour shadow cabinet are weirdos. Fully costed... Fully costed... bleep bleep...
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Jun 24 5.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Does anyone need to be told that Keir Starmer's dad was a toolmaker? The whole Labour shadow cabinet are weirdos. Fully costed... Fully costed... bleep bleep... Sounds like the Kinnock speech that Biden somehow copied. One was just total lies. I would believe Starmer's father was a tool maker. He at least partly made Keir.
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Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jun 24 9.22pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Sounds like the Kinnock speech that Biden somehow copied. One was just total lies. I would believe Starmer's father was a tool maker. He at least partly made Keir. I think I just said that. I cannot hear the phrases, Fully costed, smash the gangs, no plan, crashed the economy, Tory chaos, tax trap or stability with change again before the election. These muppets are doing my head in. I just turn the TV down.
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Eaglehamster Storrington 16 Jun 24 8.03am | |
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Perhaps the most annoying tactic is to waffle on and on with the object of reducing the time an interviewer can can awkward questions. They've all been on the same training course.
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Matov 16 Jun 24 9.32am | |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
They have. And all come from a similar background. Usually teenage involvement with politics even before University followed by involvement at a local level. Now in and of itself, not really a bad thing but I also think that what that does is effectively have a political system that spawns its own. Plus, and this is not any of their fault, almost none of them have had the experience of war. Probably since about 1930 onwards until perhaps the late 80's, we had a political class almost all forged in their youths in two horrendous world-wars. And not only stress tested by the violence but also the struggle between competing forms of political ideology. Communism, Fascism, National Socialism etc all competing with the idea that Liberal Democracy was the best way for the (supra in the case of Communism) nation-state to be run. This was a political class who had witnessed, very often first-hand, the consequences of politics playing out in its most severe form. Where as what we have now is essentially a managerial class. People who have emerged rather then been forged. Now its possible to pull that last sentence apart and accuse it, with some justification, of being hyperbolic BUT I think does capture an essence of the wider problem we face. We are led by people who have never truly had to face up to what it means to actually lead. People who have never faced up to any kind of meaningful sacrifice. Hence why they have to be taught how to pretend. Leaving us bereft of anybody who can truly inspire.
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Badger11 Beckenham 16 Jun 24 9.39am | |
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Good post. Attlee served in the first war with distinction. He spent many years as a social worker in Limehouse one of the poorest districts in the country. Labour then asked him to stand against the sitting Liberal MP and he won. He won because he had local credibility and was a patriotic Englishman something the voters appreciated. At the end of his life he bemoaned the rise of professional politicians from all parties and the creeping anti patriotism. Unsurprisingly the left don't like to talk about him today.
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