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Female Referees.... in the Prem


PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 Dec 23 9.29am

Just saw the Fulham v Burnley replay and this caught my attention. Was it the first match or have i been asleep ?

What are your thoughts ?

personally, good. Good luck to her and i hope she makes a go of it. On the one hand, on the other.....isnt there always an agenda to eradicate male-only zones in our society ? And to take something which worked perfectly well and to tinker with it.

Lets be honest.....some top footballers are from societies & cultures that are less enlightened about the role of women. Many players are hot-heads. And when the going gets tough, will they accept the authority of a woman.

This will be amusing to observe. A stinking row between a lady and , say, Samir Nasri. Personally, i wouldnt have the balls to referee Joey Barton and/or Alex Ferguson and i will confess it honestly. Try to manage Zinidene Zidane .....good luck with that.

I predict some parallels with Margaret Thatcher, Catherine the Great of Russia or even England's own Elizabeth I. A woman in a man's World. Needing to be extra strong to compensate for all the hostility.

Like bouncers in a nightclub or airport security , maybe the women will be better than men. For some aspects of the job. PRECISELY BECAUSE we have a taboo about getting aggressive with women.

And then there is the inevitability of referee mistakes, failure and crowd-hostility. If it happens in the male game, then it must also happen in the female game. How do we reconcile wanting to deck Mark Clattenburg with a sense of political correctness ?


If women can be Prime Ministers, brain-surgeons & airline pilots then of course they can be referees. The planes don't suddenly start crashing. But be careful what you wish for. And will the politicaly-correct crowd also keep pushing for women coal-miners, construction & lumber-jacking ? Women into lowly paid male jobs.
And can we shove men into working the local Creche, midwifery & Au Pair jobs ? Or is the PC crusade only interested in women in top jobs for top pay ?

Prediction : female referees will become a permanent thing. The political momentum behind this is enormous. And, again, its all really about politics. Gary Linekar will love this.

Follow the link below, and ask yourself....would you like to be a referee ?

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Dec 2023 9.50am)

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 24 Dec 23 10.35am


As long as she's competent then why would anyone even notice? Those trying to make it a gender issue are just demeaning her achievement in getting where she has.

 

monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 24 Dec 23 10.49am

I went to a Bromley game earlier in the season and it was a female ref. She did okay, made a couple of iffy decisions, which is fine, it happens to the best. But what I noticed is the definite improvement of the respect the players showed her, obviously because she was a woman, there was no dissent , no arguing the toss and I even noticed a couple of times players in the heat of the moment visibly swung round to give her a mouthful, but then suddenly stopped in their tracks when they remembered it was a woman official.

So basically if it has a positive effect like that and stops dissent, all that whinging and whining at every decision, then the more the merrier

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Dec 23 10.54am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


As long as she's competent then why would anyone even notice? Those trying to make it a gender issue are just demeaning her achievement in getting where she has.

Exactly They could hire a monkey for all I care, what matters is they get the key decisions right. If she's no good then she deserves pelters just as every other bad ref does.

 


One more point

monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 24 Dec 23 11.08am

Originally posted by Badger11

Exactly They could hire a monkey for all I care, what matters is they get the key decisions right. If she's no good then she deserves pelters just as every other bad ref does.

No comment

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 Dec 23 11.15am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


As long as she's competent then why would anyone even notice? Those trying to make it a gender issue are just demeaning her achievement in getting where she has.

The fella in the link below is Turkish. Some of the best referees come from there.
call me cynical, but i wonder could a lady referee a game in Istanbul, Fenebache versus Galatasaray ? Very high emotions. A cauldron of aggression & hostility. i certainly wouldn't be able to.

and you are correct. Aggressive players, comfortable with abusing male referees, are halted in their tracks by a female referee. Maybe every schoolboy team needs a female referee.....cos the level of abuse is shocking. Parents punching referees and all that. It is totally ridiculous the levels of abuse currently witnessed.


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Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Dec 2023 11.23am)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Dec 23 11.22am

Originally posted by monkey

No comment

I'm sure you'd be fine.

As long as it's not Mark Clattenburg's sister it's fine by me.

 


One more point

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Dec 23 11.27am

In all fairness coal mining, lumber jacking and much of construction are high paid jobs currently. Creches, social care jobs etc, even education would be lower paid.

I don't really mind who the ref is as long as they're fair. I guess a trans one will be a bit of a test.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 24 Dec 23 11.37am

Originally posted by ASCPFC


I don't really mind who the ref is as long as they're fair. I guess a trans one will be a bit of a test.

I hadn't even thought of that. And additionally, i hadn't thought of a 24 year old Blonde stunner doing the referee job. Certainly an improvement on Pier-Luigi Collina.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Dec 2023 11.39am)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Dec 23 1.52pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

I hadn't even thought of that. And additionally, i hadn't thought of a 24 year old Blonde stunner doing the referee job. Certainly an improvement on Pier-Luigi Collina.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (24 Dec 2023 11.39am)

It might be a bit awkward if they're a 24 year old blonde stunner with lovely jubblies and a pen15.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Dec 23 2.13pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

It might be a bit awkward if they're a 24 year old blonde stunner with lovely jubblies and a pen15.

It is only a matter of time.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Dec 23 2.21pm

Originally posted by Willo

It is only a matter of time.

True

 


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Elpis Flag In a pub 24 Dec 23 3.01pm

Originally posted by monkey

I went to a Bromley game earlier in the season and it was a female ref. She did okay, made a couple of iffy decisions, which is fine, it happens to the best. But what I noticed is the definite improvement of the respect the players showed her, obviously because she was a woman, there was no dissent , no arguing the toss and I even noticed a couple of times players in the heat of the moment visibly swung round to give her a mouthful, but then suddenly stopped in their tracks when they remembered it was a woman official.

So basically if it has a positive effect like that and stops dissent, all that whinging and whining at every decision, then the more the merrier

Agree with that Monkey ,from my own days of kicking lumps out of centre forwards a lady ref does give you a different mindset as to the verbals .
As players and really they are the only ones that count ,they soon know if the ref is up to job and there is really no reason why that doesn't mean lady refs .
What I don't like is the positive discrimination to fill diversity quotas which this has all the hallmarks of .Being promoted to the Premier league list because of gender or race rather than ability will just see standards drop IMO.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Dec 23 8.14pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


As long as she's competent then why would anyone even notice? Those trying to make it a gender issue are just demeaning her achievement in getting where she has.

Ironic that certain people are agreeing with meritocracy over a woman ref but don’t agree with a certain demographic of a manager being sacked because of a decision based on meritocracy.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Dec 23 10.40pm

Rebecca Welch was the first woman to referee an EFL match probably 2 seasons ago.

I have seen some female referees at senior grassroots level and their performances were worthy of credit.

 

Martin 78 Flag Caterham 29 Dec 23 4.14pm

I don’t have any problem with female refs should be more it’s VAR I hate 😠

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 30 Dec 23 10.09am

i have a fantasy football scenario. Watching nightclub woman-puncher & rapist Marlon King getting an early red-card in a crucial football match.

Karma

Edited by PalazioVecchio (30 Dec 2023 10.10am)

 


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dreamwaverider Flag London 30 Dec 23 10.14am

Within a few years we won't have refs. They will all be Bots. We will have security on the pitch managing player behaviour. Women could well be the solution for that role.

Edited by dreamwaverider (30 Dec 2023 10.15am)

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 30 Dec 23 6.09pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Within a few years we won't have refs. They will all be Bots. We will have security on the pitch managing player behaviour. Women could well be the solution for that role.

Edited by dreamwaverider (30 Dec 2023 10.15am)

women taking over from male referees. And sex-bots taking the place of women ? in the bedroom ?

its already in the pipeline.

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Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 30 Dec 23 7.17pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

women taking over from male referees. And sex-bots taking the place of women ? in the bedroom ?

its already in the pipeline.

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Have you ordered yours Palazio?

 


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