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Was Jules at fault for first goal?
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merganser 28 Apr 14 12.36pm |
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Can any goalkeeper advise if Jules was at fault with Man City's first goal?
Should he have:
A) Caught or punched the cross before it found the striker?
B) Been quicker with his dive?
IMO, he didn't seem to command his goal area with a great deal of authority during the match.
Hope his chances (admittedly slim) of a World Cup call-up have not been jeopardised.
Will Hennessy be given a run-out before the end of the season?
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paperhat croydon 28 Apr 14 12.43pm |
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Quote merganser at 28 Apr 2014 12.36pm
Can any goalkeeper advise if Jules was at fault with Man City's first goal?
Should he have:
A) Caught or punched the cross before it found the striker?
B) Been quicker with his dive?
IMO, he didn't seem to command his goal area with a great deal of authority during the match.
Hope his chances (admittedly slim) of a World Cup call-up have not been jeopardised.
Will Hennessy be given a run-out before the end of the season?
A) No chance
B)possibly but its all chance at that stage
He never does command his area that well
He didn't really have much of a chance anyway
Hope not, no reason at all for him to at this stage.
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green333 Tasmania 28 Apr 14 12.44pm |
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Yes and no. He got between Dann and Mariappa covering...was a delightful cross from an awesome humble player...great header...only way to save was to punch it away...who knows maybe Hennesey could of should of time will tell...I think Tony will buy another centre back and all positions up for grabs..the way it should be.
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Kermit8 Hevon 28 Apr 14 12.45pm |
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I was in goal playing with my nine year old lad down the park at the weekend so feel qualified to answer:
1)Yaya played a millimetre perfect pass/cross and no goalkeeper in the world could have done anything about it nor the ball ending up in the back of the net.
2)Hennessy is not as good as Jules so shouldn't be given the No.1 spot until he is or if Jules loses form.
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hibbystu tadworth 28 Apr 14 12.45pm |
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no
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DaveTheGnome 28 Apr 14 12.48pm |
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Dunno about the first but I thought he ended up a bit stranded for the second
Cheers
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merganser 28 Apr 14 12.55pm |
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Am beginning to wonder if Jules is too modest to be a top-class goalkeeper.
Everyone agrees that he's a nice guy/ lovely bloke etc.
But maybe he needs to find his inner bully and let opponents (and his own back four) know who's boss.
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Mangopablo south LONDON 28 Apr 14 12.55pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 28 Apr 2014 12.45pm
I was in goal playing with my nine year old lad down the park at the weekend so feel qualified to answer:
1)Yaya played a millimetre perfect pass/cross and no goalkeeper in the world could have done anything about it nor the ball ending up in the back of the net.
2)Hennessy is not as good as Jules so shouldn't be given the No.1 spot until he is or if Jules loses form.
Agree 100%. The mistake was giving Toure so much time on the ball on the edge of the box.
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Dixie Eagle Chatham 28 Apr 14 1.10pm |
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Agreed. Jedi gave YaYa far too much space and should've closed him down quicker.
He was awesome yesterday though.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 28 Apr 14 1.25pm |
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No, it was a perfect ball in between the defence and the Keeper. If he comes for that, he doesn't get there in time. If he positions himself to be able to get there in time, he's more likely to conceed from a shot.
Toure had too much time on the ball, and were not fast enough to stop Dejko.
No ones fault, they were just better than us.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Apr 14 1.31pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Apr 2014 1.25pm
No, it was a perfect ball in between the defence and the Keeper. If he comes for that, he doesn't get there in time. If he positions himself to be able to get there in time, he's more likely to conceed from a shot.
Toure had too much time on the ball, and were not fast enough to stop Dejko.
No ones fault, they were just better than us.
This sums up what I think.If anything perhaps the two defenders could have done better in dealing with the cross, but it was a real 'peach' of a delivery by a top player who shouldn't have been given the time and room to pick out Dzeko.
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paperhat croydon 28 Apr 14 1.43pm |
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Quote Willo at 28 Apr 2014 1.31pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Apr 2014 1.25pm
No, it was a perfect ball in between the defence and the Keeper. If he comes for that, he doesn't get there in time. If he positions himself to be able to get there in time, he's more likely to conceed from a shot.
Toure had too much time on the ball, and were not fast enough to stop Dejko.
No ones fault, they were just better than us.
This sums up what I think.If anything perhaps the two defenders could have done better in dealing with the cross, but it was a real 'peach' of a delivery by a top player who shouldn't have been given the time and room to pick out Dzeko.
...andhad Speroni been sitting down like a good boy, he's have saved it........
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peterg Anerley 28 Apr 14 1.44pm |
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I thought that a really top keeper might have saved some of the goals against Palace in the first part of the season. But Jules has been playing blinders since then and preserved our lead in several key matches. I don't feel he could have stopped either Man City goals on Saturday. Maybe he could have gambled for the first goal and got lucky. I don't see he could have done anything different for the second. It looked as though Delaney had Yaya Toure covered but Toure powered his way past him, got lucky with the bounce of the ball and blasted it where no keeper could have reached it.
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Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 28 Apr 14 1.49pm |
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No, Dzeko was always going to win that ball, he's 15 to 17 cms taller than both Mariappa, and Dann.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Apr 14 1.54pm |
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Quote Sg Bilko at 28 Apr 2014 1.49pm
No, Dzeko was always going to win that ball, he's 15 to 17 cms taller than both Mariappa, and Dann.
I really don't think that Dzeko is that much taller than Dann.
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Andy_G Wimbledon 28 Apr 14 1.56pm |
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Quote merganser at 28 Apr 2014 12.36pm
Can any goalkeeper advise if Jules was at fault with Man City's first goal?
Should he have:
A) Caught or punched the cross before it found the striker?
B) Been quicker with his dive?
IMO, he didn't seem to command his goal area with a great deal of authority during the match.
Hope his chances (admittedly slim) of a World Cup call-up have not been jeopardised.
Will Hennessy be given a run-out before the end of the season?
You may want to watch the goal again. It was a perfect cross and a great header from Dzeko, Speroni had no time to react. The only critism maybe we didn't close Toure down quicker but to be honest it was almost impossible to defend that goal
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PJH Colchester 28 Apr 14 1.56pm |
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Quote DaveTheGnome at 28 Apr 2014 12.48pm
Dunno about the first but I thought he ended up a bit stranded for the second
Stranded ? Great curling effort, surely Jules had no chance unless I've been seeing things ? As for the first, great curling cross and a good downward header. Again Jules had no chance IMO.In fact, bollocks. Jules had no chance.Period !!
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Apr 14 1.59pm |
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Quote PJH at 28 Apr 2014 1.56pm
Stranded ? Great curling effort, surely Jules had no chance unless I've been seeing things ? As for the first, great curling cross and a good downward header. Again Jules had no chance IMO.In fact, bollocks. Jules had no chance.Period !!
I agree - You cannot fault Speroni for either goal.
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cpj Kent 28 Apr 14 2.01pm |
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Not allowed to criticise Speroni on here! The guy is a legend and has a restaurant named after him!
Seriously though, I thought he was poor at the start of the season and let in several goals that he should perhaps have saved. Recently though he's been outstanding and back to his best form of a few years ago. On Saturday I feel he made the wrong decisions for both goals - he should have come off his line for the first (staying on his line meant that any touch would result in a goal) and should have stayed where he was for the second when he ended up in no-man's land.
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skatman 28 Apr 14 2.02pm |
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I'm a keeper and I can say with absolute certainty that Jules had no chance with either goal.
The first one was as perfect a cross as you're ever likely to see, and every striker is always taught to head the ball down as it's harder for the keeper to get down. Dzeko put an bullet of a header down where no keeper can get to.
He's been so consistent this season it's unreal. Player of the year for me.
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