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matt_himself Matataland 13 Mar 16 7.00am
Shameful, if true as this would be another example of PC fascism stifling free speech: [Link] "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 13 Mar 16 7.00am

Shameful, if true as this would be another example of PC fascism stifling free speech:

[Link]

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

7mins In the bush 13 Mar 16 10.36am
If it has violent/homophobic/racist/misogynistic lyrics, then of course it should be banned. Jamaica is the most bigoted country I've ever been to. Jamaica and West Indian culture has some real issues. 3 visits to Jamaica, and 3 times I've been left shaking my head at some of the views the locals seem to think acceptable. The homophobia is rampant.

7mins

In the bush 13 Mar 16 10.36am

If it has violent/homophobic/racist/misogynistic lyrics, then of course it should be banned.

Jamaica is the most bigoted country I've ever been to. Jamaica and West Indian culture has some real issues.
3 visits to Jamaica, and 3 times I've been left shaking my head at some of the views the locals seem to think acceptable.
The homophobia is rampant.

Hoof Hearted 13 Mar 16 10.51am
I didn't realise Sean Paul was so hard core? I liked his song "Like Glue"......... Easy now me bredren........ respec..... innit?

Hoof Hearted 13 Mar 16 10.51am

I didn't realise Sean Paul was so hard core?

I liked his song "Like Glue".........

Easy now me bredren........ respec..... innit?

mr. apollo Somewhere in Switzerland 13 Mar 16 11.06am
Check out today's mp3 in Fun talk Glad All Over

mr. apollo

Somewhere in Switzerland 13 Mar 16 11.06am

Check out today's mp3 in Fun talk

Glad

All

Over

jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Mar 16 11.26am
Music banned because its linked to crime and disorder - How did we ever get through the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.... Absurd decision. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 13 Mar 16 11.26am

Music banned because its linked to crime and disorder - How did we ever get through the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s....

Absurd decision.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

7mins In the bush 13 Mar 16 12.08pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Music banned because its linked to crime and disorder - How did we ever get through the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.... Absurd decision. Maybe homophobia/racism/sexism was more accepted back then... I'm not sure I wanna go back to those days.

7mins

In the bush 13 Mar 16 12.08pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Music banned because its linked to crime and disorder - How did we ever get through the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s....

Absurd decision.

Maybe homophobia/racism/sexism was more accepted back then... I'm not sure I wanna go back to those days.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Mar 16 12.08pm
I remember hearing about 10 years ago bars needed a licence to play the latest R&B. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 13 Mar 16 12.08pm

I remember hearing about 10 years ago bars needed a licence to play the latest R&B.

COYP

7mins In the bush 13 Mar 16 12.10pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Music banned because its linked to crime and disorder - How did we ever get through the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.... Absurd decision. Having a black dad and Irish mum was not fun in the decades you mention... we evolve and move forwards. All bigotry should be confronted not just the type that sells papers/advertising

7mins

In the bush 13 Mar 16 12.10pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Music banned because its linked to crime and disorder - How did we ever get through the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s....

Absurd decision.

Having a black dad and Irish mum was not fun in the decades you mention... we evolve and move forwards. All bigotry should be confronted not just the type that sells papers/advertising

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 13 Mar 16 12.27pm
Originally posted by 7mins Having a black dad and Irish mum was not fun in the decades you mention... we evolve and move forwards. All bigotry should be confronted not just the type that sells papers/advertising So you confront something by banning it? Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 13 Mar 16 12.27pm

Originally posted by 7mins

Having a black dad and Irish mum was not fun in the decades you mention... we evolve and move forwards. All bigotry should be confronted not just the type that sells papers/advertising

So you confront something by banning it?

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

matt_himself Matataland 13 Mar 16 12.36pm
Originally posted by 7mins If it has violent/homophobic/racist/misogynistic lyrics, then of course it should be banned. Jamaica is the most bigoted country I've ever been to. Jamaica and West Indian culture has some real issues. 3 visits to Jamaica, and 3 times I've been left shaking my head at some of the views the locals seem to think acceptable. The homophobia is rampant. What other music should we ban? 'Saturday nights all right for fighting'? The entire punk genre? 'The fairytale of anew York' because it contains the word 'faggott'? Who decides upon the censorship and what should be banned? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 13 Mar 16 12.36pm

Originally posted by 7mins

If it has violent/homophobic/racist/misogynistic lyrics, then of course it should be banned.

What other music should we ban?

'Saturday nights all right for fighting'?
The entire punk genre?
'The fairytale of anew York' because it contains the word 'faggott'?

Who decides upon the censorship and what should be banned?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 13 Mar 16 12.56pm
The exploited. charmers through n through. [Link] not sure if they're talking about moderators though. Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

kingdowieonthewall

Sussex, ex-Cronx. 13 Mar 16 12.56pm

The exploited.
charmers through n through.
[Link]
not sure if they're talking about moderators though.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

thegreatlardino crawley/selsey 13 Mar 16 1.02pm
the exploited now that is a proper band..proper music.. Sometimes I set out for Ludlow Sometimes I end up in Chepstow

thegreatlardino

crawley/selsey 13 Mar 16 1.02pm

the exploited now that is a proper band..proper music..

Sometimes I set out for Ludlow
Sometimes I end up in Chepstow

dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 13 Mar 16 1.50pm
Simple answer is dont go in if you dont like it. personally I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than go out in croydon. Edited by dannyh (13 Mar 2016 1.51pm) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

dannyh

wherever I lay my hat....... 13 Mar 16 1.50pm

Simple answer is dont go in if you dont like it. personally I'd rather stick pins in my eyes than go out in croydon.

Edited by dannyh (13 Mar 2016 1.51pm)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

Mr Palaceman 13 Mar 16 2.24pm
Originally posted by 7mins If it has violent/homophobic/racist/misogynistic lyrics, then of course it should be banned. Jamaica is the most bigoted country I've ever been to. Jamaica and West Indian culture has some real issues. 3 visits to Jamaica, and 3 times I've been left shaking my head at some of the views the locals seem to think acceptable. The homophobia is rampant. I have loved every trip I have made to Jamaica. If you don't like it, don't go. Simplies.. In regards to bashment, like all music, it's an acquired taste. Not my thing but to ban it is stupid. Even places like Tiger, Tiger have major disorder issues of a weekend. The police regularly arrest it's patrons. It's to much alcohol that causes disorder, not music.. "You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead" Stan Laurel

Mr Palaceman

13 Mar 16 2.24pm

Originally posted by 7mins

If it has violent/homophobic/racist/misogynistic lyrics, then of course it should be banned.

Jamaica is the most bigoted country I've ever been to. Jamaica and West Indian culture has some real issues.
3 visits to Jamaica, and 3 times I've been left shaking my head at some of the views the locals seem to think acceptable. The homophobia is rampant.

I have loved every trip I have made to Jamaica. If you don't like it, don't go. Simplies..

In regards to bashment, like all music, it's an acquired taste. Not my thing but to ban it is stupid.

Even places like Tiger, Tiger have major disorder issues of a weekend. The police regularly arrest it's patrons.

It's to much alcohol that causes disorder, not music..

"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

7mins In the bush 13 Mar 16 2.42pm
Originally posted by matt_himself What other music should we ban? 'Saturday nights all right for fighting'? The entire punk genre? 'The fairytale of anew York' because it contains the word 'faggott'? Who decides upon the censorship and what should be banned? Do you honestly think that's the same thing?

7mins

In the bush 13 Mar 16 2.42pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

What other music should we ban?

'Saturday nights all right for fighting'?
The entire punk genre?
'The fairytale of anew York' because it contains the word 'faggott'?

Who decides upon the censorship and what should be banned?

Do you honestly think that's the same thing?

7mins In the bush 13 Mar 16 2.45pm
Originally posted by Mr Palaceman I have loved every trip I have made to Jamaica. If you don't like it, don't go. Simplies.. In regards to bashment, like all music, it's an acquired taste. Not my thing but to ban it is stupid. Even places like Tiger, Tiger have major disorder issues of a weekend. The police regularly arrest it's patrons. It's to much alcohol that causes disorder, not music.. I'm guessing you went as a tourist? Homosexuality is illegal in Jamaica in 2016.

7mins

In the bush 13 Mar 16 2.45pm

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

I have loved every trip I have made to Jamaica. If you don't like it, don't go. Simplies..

In regards to bashment, like all music, it's an acquired taste. Not my thing but to ban it is stupid.

Even places like Tiger, Tiger have major disorder issues of a weekend. The police regularly arrest it's patrons.

It's to much alcohol that causes disorder, not music..

I'm guessing you went as a tourist?
Homosexuality is illegal in Jamaica in 2016.

7mins In the bush 13 Mar 16 2.48pm
There is a massive problem with Bashment and dancehall music in Jamaica...any song that encourages killing gay people is pretty offensive to me, and I have no problem with it being banned. Some people think it's fine.. and well I struggle with that if i'm honest.

7mins

In the bush 13 Mar 16 2.48pm

There is a massive problem with Bashment and dancehall music in Jamaica...any song that encourages killing gay people is pretty offensive to me, and I have no problem with it being banned.
Some people think it's fine.. and well I struggle with that if i'm honest.

matt_himself Matataland 13 Mar 16 2.51pm
Originally posted by 7mins Do you honestly think that's the same thing? Please could you explain what you mean and I will answer your question. You haven't answered the questions posed because I suspect you have no answers. The fact is that censorship is more damaging than allowing freedom of expression. Would you want to live in a censored society? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 13 Mar 16 2.51pm

Originally posted by 7mins

Do you honestly think that's the same thing?

Please could you explain what you mean and I will answer your question.

You haven't answered the questions posed because I suspect you have no answers.

The fact is that censorship is more damaging than allowing freedom of expression.

Would you want to live in a censored society?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

7mins In the bush 13 Mar 16 2.52pm
Originally posted by matt_himself What other music should we ban? 'Saturday nights all right for fighting'? The entire punk genre? 'The fairytale of anew York' because it contains the word 'faggott'? Who decides upon the censorship and what should be banned? I think a song that encourages the shooting and burning of gay people should be banned in 2016 England... If people want to justify it by comparing it to a Elton John song, I think they either don't understand what they're talking about... or maybe....

7mins

In the bush 13 Mar 16 2.52pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

What other music should we ban?

'Saturday nights all right for fighting'?
The entire punk genre?
'The fairytale of anew York' because it contains the word 'faggott'?

Who decides upon the censorship and what should be banned?

I think a song that encourages the shooting and burning of gay people should be banned in 2016 England... If people want to justify it by comparing it to a Elton John song, I think they either don't understand what they're talking about... or maybe....

matt_himself Matataland 13 Mar 16 2.53pm
Originally posted by 7mins There is a massive problem with Bashment and dancehall music in Jamaica...any song that encourages killing gay people is pretty offensive to me, and I have no problem with it being banned. Some people think it's fine.. and well I struggle with that if i'm honest. Your missing the point. Where does censorship end? I don't think anyone on here is encouraging musicians to promote the killing of anyone through their lyrics. However, censorship is wrong. Where does it start and stop? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 13 Mar 16 2.53pm

Originally posted by 7mins

Your missing the point. Where does censorship end?

I don't think anyone on here is encouraging musicians to promote the killing of anyone through their lyrics. However, censorship is wrong. Where does it start and stop?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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